Got an interesting find for you folks today

[avacguyinmn]

Hey there everyone, for those of you who attended the convention in MN, My name is Andrew and i escorted you guys around the a1 vacuum building in st paul mn when the convention was in town. As a former collector i figured id let you guys have a bite at this before it goes up for auction. I've recently come into possession of this possiblly mint in box hoover model 28. All the paperwork seems to be there and the handle even has the original cardboard wrap around it, the manufacturing plate doesnt say anything about it being a rebuild. Its been removed and assembled from the box by me to see if it runs, and runs it does indeed. My guess was the guy who originally owned it was a salesman and this was one he just kept in a box and never got around to selling it. Any questions you have let me know.

 

[gsheen]

It looks lovely but that silver hood looks odd on it. I have never seen one with a silver hood is it Alloy ?

 

[electrolux137]

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The hood looks like is was done up with silver spray paint. It also appears that the handle, or part of it, has been painted. The lens in front of the light bulb appears to be missing. Otherwise it is in beautiful condition. It's hard to find one without the housing over the brush roll all scratched up from people shoving the machine under baseboards and low furniture.

 

[vintagevaclover]

That's a beautiful vacuum!!

 

[avacguyinmn]

I can tell you that the glass piece in front of the bulb is still there, just hard to see in a photo. The handle hasn't been tampered with there is cardboard wrap around it its never been touched. The top is alloy, it is not painted, although i've never seen another one like it, i had read somewhere they made an alloy option as a cheaper option because the war was going on? Not 100% on that but i know its metal.

 

[avacguyinmn]

Found where i read it at http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?16709

 

[stricklybojack]

Wow

Extraordinary. Do you want us to PM you offers or what?

 

[avacguyinmn]

That would be great, thanks

 

[dysonman1]

The hood is incorrect. Model 28's were made AFTER World War II, so there was no material substitution. The bag is also incorrect for a model 28. There were vertical graphics extending to the top of the cloth.

 

[akabent]

Bags and Hoods

Actually, there were two designs of bags sold on the 28 (not to mention the Hygienisac option) as well as both bakelite and aluminum hoods; the aluminum hoods were painted brown wrinkle-finish.  (Refer to varying ads.)  Three different cords equipped on the 28 support the notion of limited availability of materials for a period following the war as well.


 


RB

 

[williamr1248]

I got an Interesting find for you today

I can second the DIFFERENT HOODS and BAGS for the 28.

I had two grandparents who bought a Hoover 28.
(1)one bought RIGHT after the war had the metal hood,bag that just said "Hoover" and it had a ribbed power cord,handle grip matched color of the handle. The Hood had a type of stripes that were like deals around the metal hood. The tools were heavy bakelite. The agitator was polished metal.

(2) The one bought in 1948 had the plastic hood,bag that said "THE HOOVER CLEANER",longer and smooth power cord that matched the handle grip and was a lighter color of brown. The tools were all aluminum. The trim around the plastic hood was metal and attached at each end. Also had a painted agitator

Both machines were original and bought new.
The bag that said just "Hoover" was slightly lighter in color.

 

[akabent]

Cord/Plug

Hey Rob!


 


    Do you recall which plug(s) those cleaners had on them?  I am assuming the smooth cord was the GE cord-set with the  almost iconic, smooth, bell-shaped plug.  Did the earlier, ribbed cord have the large Hoover plug or the round, Belden plug?  (Inquiring minds want to know!!)  Happy New Year to you.


 


RB

 

[williamr1248]

Interesting find for yu today

RB,

The early 28 with the metal hood had the ribbed cord (almost blackish brown) and it had a large Hoover marked plug. The cord was shorter and stiffer too.

The later 28 had the smooth finish cord,lighter color,longer and it had the belden plug. The later 28 also had a metal bag ring and the early 28 had a bakelite bag ring.

Interesting note: years later I saw another 28 with the same exact configuration of metal hood,same bag with only "Hoover" and same cord.

They both came packed in the same type boxes and had the same tool kit storage kit and books.

 

[akabent]

Cord/Plug/Variations

Hi again, Rob, 


 


     Many thanks for your response; I learned something new.   The Belden cord-sets used by Hoover I have known had the ribbed cord and familiar Belden plug.  Hoover certainly was efficient in using (up) existing components and procuring outside materials to keep those lines running which accounts to so many of the variations.


 


RB

 

[dysonman1]

Rob: Are you sure the one bought right after the war wasn't a 27? Those were sold for more than a year after the war, and came with belden plugs, and some had metal hoods.

 

[williamr1248]

I have an Interesting find for you today

Tom,
It was a model 28.
Think back years ago when you were at my house I had found ANOTHER model 28 with the same metal hood, same bag with just HOOVER on it and the same cord set at an Ohio second hand shop. I just gave that machine to Michael Turner last year.
Of course I cannot tell the history of that particular machine but it had all the same parts as my grandmother's. I did not have the tools or boxes for that machine. I remember at the time you thought maybe the bag was used from the end of the 27 run. They were a thinner cloth material as I remember and much lighter brown color from the later 28's.
The one with the metal hood, Hoover only bag also had that shorter blackish cord and it did not hold up very well. It did come with the familiar squarish Hoover marked plug where the later 1948 Hoover had that popular belden style found on many appliances.

That same belden plug came on my parents 66 Air-Way and yet their friends 66 Air-Way which was slightly older came with a BLUE cord and different plug, blue rubber on the ends of the gliders and a cardboard type crevice tool. Same model but slightly different parts. The hoses were the same but slightly different too.
I have seen some 66 Air-Way's with a step on power switch instead of the chrome pedal.

Just thought of this too, the early 28 had a much heavier crinkle paint finish than the later 28. As a child, I always thought the one needed to be dusted and polished!

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Actually,

EVERYTHING William (Rob)has stated is true. Everything Rick said is true.
HOOVER DID have shortages after the war, anyone who is up on HOOVER history can tell you that. A lot of it is found in that wonderful book, HOOVER, The WAR Years" I'll wait until you grab your copies. They should be near your favorite chair in your livingroom. Mine is signed by none other than Miss Jane Turner, who worked at the HOOVER "hospital" for years. No one was able to buy a vacuum cleaner for a long time since the factory stopped making them on April 30, 1942. The last unit rolled off the line (model 11) that day. THAT vacuum AND the photo are on display at the MUSEUM in North Canton, Ohio. I have numerous photos of that.
After the war, vacuums were first made in Wheeling, West Virginia, as it took a while to re-fit the main plant on Maple Street. HOOVER was great for "using what they had" thus, not wasting anything.
I've shown my photos of Tom Anderson's 28s... featuring both bag styles. (the "handisac apparatus is along the wall in his glorious display area).
There were many changes in that model as, they were made for SOOOO long. up until 1950.. after that they were known as C-28 used as"commercial cleaners". All of this is found in the old "NEWSIES".... Hoover's newspaper.HOOVER continued making these because people had money to spend, were unable to buy a vacuum for so long. They had to keep up with the demand.
I'm so glad to have seen this thread and was able to hopefully clarify any doubts.
All one has to do is simply turn over your vacuum to see the actual model number pressed into the metal.
Happy HOOVERING!

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Also, for all of us 28 owners............

those hoodswere made out of :bakelite, aluminum, and yes. plastic.
I have a NOS plastic hood from Charlie Watrous. You all know that "replacement"parts for vacuums. Later years, remember the white bags? They may have just made these generic hoods to paint later. Perhaps someone needed a hood. They took this one, and then slapped this "silver hood" on it.
Just a thought.