Oh yes, I remember Mark (Rocketwarrior) well. His practices of destroying vintage vacs for the purposes of "art" made what hair I have left stand on end. He chopped up some nice Kenmore commanders among other things. I got into disagreements with him on several occasions over said "art." No, if I am to be tarred and feathered, I would rather be in the Tom Gasko camp. While this issue should not be belabored any further, I feel it holds at least some merit. Whether because it was posted here or because another vac collector stumbled onto it, I've already been outbid on Montgomery Ward (which I was pretty sure would happen anyway). You're right Charles, there are still deals to be had on eBay on vacuums that have been mis-categorized. I just bought an Oreck XL-100C that was listed as a "vacume" for under $50.00.