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That will be great Bill, I am very interested in hearing what you think of them as well.

Terry
 
Reminds me of

I had one and it looks like the inside of a Kirby G4 bag. I bought it to fit the style c electrolux bag. I never used it but did tear it apart to use the gasket inside of the bag opening for something else. It detached from the collar with a pretty simple pull......


Bud
 
Good idea

Oreck had a washable bag just like the Forever Bags. I never used one, but it seemed OK. I have come to prefer the cloth-like white HEPA disposable bags, but would be willing to try one. I have emailed the store that sells them and asked if they will be making one to fit Fairfax. That is the machine I'd like to try the Forever Bag in. The Fairfax has really strong air flow, I'd use the Fairfax more often if it were so blasted loud.
Justin
 
I've read through the numerous posts above on this topic.

I'm afraid I just don't get the idea of the "forever bag." Isn't it a step backward, installing a shake-out bag back into a machine intended to have the convenience of a disposable bag? Wasn't the idea of disposable bags to eliminate the mess of emptying a cloth capture bag, having dust flying around, etc? Wow, do I remember sticking my hand up inside my mother's Kirby 511 to get wads of hair out.

I know the idea of buying this bag one time and avoiding the purchase of multiple paper/poly bags is appealing. But then again, to me it's like buying a new car and specifying a manual transmission. I know some people buy them, but I can't imagine why.

If you don't like buying bags, you could get one of the new bagless plasti-vacs. Those are easier to dump and clean out than any cloth bag. And some of them have the added entertainment value of allowing you to watch the crap whirl around in the container while the machine is running.

You're not going to put that "forever bag" in the washing machine with your wife's unmentionables are you?? I'm reluctant to introduce quantities of floor dirt into my washing machine unnecessarily. I guess you could run the forever bag by itself in the washing machine, using up as much water and laundry powder as a larger load warrants; you still might wind up with a scum line on the inside of the drum from the vacuum dirt.

Don't take any of what I've said too seriously; some of it is just in fun.
 
"it's like buying a new car and specifying a manual

But a Manual transmission's soooooo much more efficient at getting engine power to the wheels compared to an auto (less fuel used, more savings in the pocket, you just have to think a little more while driving, scary thought, I know!!).... :P
 
Serious thread deviation

That's pretty conventional wisdom about manual trans. vs. automatics, but on modern cars the difference in fuel economy has gotten narrow. Modern automatic transmissions have lock-up torque converters and overdrive features absent on older models. Recent Consumer Reports tests show a difference of about 2-3 mpg on cars that typically get 30 mpg. Yes, still a savings of about 10% - in theory. There's always the issue of driver technique, and many drivers of manual transmissions tend to over-rev the gear which defeats fuel savings. Here in the US, the majority of the population lives in the cities or suburbs, which are becoming more and more crowded as time goes by, so with a manual trans, more shifting and clutch action. I live in an area with lots of hills, so starting out on a hill with a manual can be a pain with lots of clutch slipping (unless you drive an old Studebaker with a "Hill-Holder"). Then there's the issue of re-sale. Not as many people want a manual shift.

Having said all that, some people just like to go through the gears but I'm not one of them. The last manual shift I owned was a '40 Ford (for 34 years) with a three speed on the column. People thought it was quaint but I hated driving it. I've driven all sorts of newer vehicles with 4 speed manual trans. as well. I've told my wife, "The automotive engineers went to a lot of time and trouble to design an automatic transmission to make our lives easier." I'm taking advantage of it.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention...

One of the Kirbys I bought cheaply once had a home-made "forever bag" on it. I think it was a G6 (oops, someone will correct me and say is was a "G-Six"). The previous owners were too doggoned cheap to buy a paper Kirby bag, so they tied a pillow case around the outlet tube on the riser. Small particle filtration? Zilch. Pretty good at filtering out large balls of cat hair, though.
 
Pillow case as a bag???

Gary,
That shows just how cheep some people are. I could see using one disposable bag over and over again, but a pillow case? That's just stupid.
When I worked for the local Oreck franchise I was told by one of the managers of a store that we were supposed to re-use the cones in the old Filter Queens in the work shops. So, for the first year that I worked for that company I would carefully remove the cones from the FQs(there were 5 stores owned by the same family) use a natural hair paint brush to dust off as much of the fine dust as I could, then put it back into the dust bin(after the bin had been emptied.). I was getting three uses out of each cone. Then the boss caught me do that, I told him what I was told. He thought that was funny, then told me to NEVER re-use the cones. As cheep as the 'after market' cones were, it was just a waste of my time to re-use them.
LOL
Justin
 
a cheaper alternative

Tomoorow, im going to try my own forever bag I will buid maybe both of thee:

1: Cut a leg off of an old pair of jeans or sweat pants and sew some paper towl to the inside. Then, instead of a bag slide, fold the top a couple of times and attach a bunch of those black paper clips to it.

Or, a better-filtering solution, which would probably be easier as well:

2: Cut the top of of a redualr paper vac bag. Fold the top a couple times and attach a few of those black paper clips.

Im going to have to doctor a couple of Kirby and oreck bags like this, 'cause those Kirby and Oreck bags ain't cheap. :)

VW
 
Well, the bag was made from a trouser leg (my big butt split them!!!), and I just attached it with zip ties in the right place, and the Kirby bag conversion, I just used a normal Hoover Junior bellows thing and just stuck the filltube in there, and secured it with a zip tie, and that was it, easy as pie... :)

Oh, and I folded down and secured the top of the Kirby bag cos it was a little on the tall side... :)
 

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