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That is one nice Electrolux!
That is one nice Electrolux!
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danemodsandy
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Joe:
Yes, the power nozzle was an option. It cost around $69.50 extra by the time the PN-2 was introduced.
You could buy the PN with the machine, in which case your Lux was called a Deluxe model, as in Deluxe Model L. Or - you could buy it later, in which case your machine was just called a Model L on the sales order.
Electrolux salesmen used the PN both as a way to upgrade the sale and to save it if the customer was hesitating. If the customer would go for the PN, well and good. But if they balked at the total price, then the salesman could say, "Well, the machine itself is only XXXX amount without the power nozzle - and you can always add the power nozzle later if you decide you really need it." This made the customer feel like they had some control over what they were spending.
Also, in the '60s and '70s, power nozzles weren't yet the standard feature they are now. A lot of people did not have carpet at all, just throw rugs, so they didn't really benefit from a PN. The family you bought that machine from might have been in that category at the time they purchased it.
Yes, the power nozzle was an option. It cost around $69.50 extra by the time the PN-2 was introduced.
You could buy the PN with the machine, in which case your Lux was called a Deluxe model, as in Deluxe Model L. Or - you could buy it later, in which case your machine was just called a Model L on the sales order.
Electrolux salesmen used the PN both as a way to upgrade the sale and to save it if the customer was hesitating. If the customer would go for the PN, well and good. But if they balked at the total price, then the salesman could say, "Well, the machine itself is only XXXX amount without the power nozzle - and you can always add the power nozzle later if you decide you really need it." This made the customer feel like they had some control over what they were spending.
Also, in the '60s and '70s, power nozzles weren't yet the standard feature they are now. A lot of people did not have carpet at all, just throw rugs, so they didn't really benefit from a PN. The family you bought that machine from might have been in that category at the time they purchased it.
briankirbyclass
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Danemodsandy, you just confirmed something i said several yrs ago on this forum and was balked at. Someone asked what the "Deluxe" means on several Models of Lux's made after 1959, 60.
I wrote that i was told by an old Electrolux salesman once that the "Deluxe" infront of ANY model Electrolux just means WITH POWER NOZZLE.
You just confirmed that,,thank you! lol
I also asked this old salesman about my Grandma's Model E. once.
She had a standard model E that she bought back in the late 1950s,,the one with the chrome cord halo on the back,,but no automatic control. You just changed the bag whenever the suction got too low.
Anyway, in around 1966 Grandma had wall to wall carpet installed. And about that time, the Electrolux man came calling.
She didnt have the money for a new Model G with PN, so right there in her living room, the salesman performed some surgery on her Model E and made a PN port to the side of the front wheel, just like a model G. Put the blue cord and cord straps around her Model E hose,,and sold her a PN1,,,she loved it,,and that Model E lasted that way until the late 1980s when i brought her a new Electrolux Silverado,,that she is still using.
Anyway, i asked the old Lux Salesman that since her Model E was now equipped with a PN,,would you call it a "Deluxe" Model E. He laughed and said YES!! DEFINATLY!
I wrote that i was told by an old Electrolux salesman once that the "Deluxe" infront of ANY model Electrolux just means WITH POWER NOZZLE.
You just confirmed that,,thank you! lol
I also asked this old salesman about my Grandma's Model E. once.
She had a standard model E that she bought back in the late 1950s,,the one with the chrome cord halo on the back,,but no automatic control. You just changed the bag whenever the suction got too low.
Anyway, in around 1966 Grandma had wall to wall carpet installed. And about that time, the Electrolux man came calling.
She didnt have the money for a new Model G with PN, so right there in her living room, the salesman performed some surgery on her Model E and made a PN port to the side of the front wheel, just like a model G. Put the blue cord and cord straps around her Model E hose,,and sold her a PN1,,,she loved it,,and that Model E lasted that way until the late 1980s when i brought her a new Electrolux Silverado,,that she is still using.
Anyway, i asked the old Lux Salesman that since her Model E was now equipped with a PN,,would you call it a "Deluxe" Model E. He laughed and said YES!! DEFINATLY!
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Brian:
That was the beauty of the power nozzle - you could add it to a new cleaner sale, you could take it off to save a sale, you could add it back to the sale later to increase it, or you could add a PN to an old machine to get a sale out of someone who would not have bought a new machine. Electrolux was very smart about that kind of thing. VERY smart.
They did the same thing with the turbo polisher, though that was never as popular as a PN. My first Electrolux was a factory-reconditioned L in hammertone blue, with a PN-1. They made good and darned sure that I sat through the WHOLE presentation on the turbo polisher.
To help you understand what an effective and efficient sales organization they were, I went in looking at stuff I could not possibly afford in 1972, when I worked a couple of doors down from Electrolux's Atlanta showroom on Piedmont Avenue. I wanted a 1205 REAL bad; they had just come out with the PN-2, and the sight of all that turquoise-and-aluminum goodness gleaming in the show window was driving me nuts. I also wanted a B-8 shampooer-polisher, because I'd used one belonging to a friend and loved it.
The catch was, I was on my first real job, didn't have any credit to speak of, and the 1205 and B-8 would have been something like $500-600 total. Well, they let me down gently - they told me what they COULD do for me, and I left with the L - though I declined the turbo polisher as not being close enough to what I wanted. I got regular postcards from the agency after that, advising me of new models and sales on bags and tune-ups.
All gone now, and Aerus ain't the same.
That was the beauty of the power nozzle - you could add it to a new cleaner sale, you could take it off to save a sale, you could add it back to the sale later to increase it, or you could add a PN to an old machine to get a sale out of someone who would not have bought a new machine. Electrolux was very smart about that kind of thing. VERY smart.
They did the same thing with the turbo polisher, though that was never as popular as a PN. My first Electrolux was a factory-reconditioned L in hammertone blue, with a PN-1. They made good and darned sure that I sat through the WHOLE presentation on the turbo polisher.
To help you understand what an effective and efficient sales organization they were, I went in looking at stuff I could not possibly afford in 1972, when I worked a couple of doors down from Electrolux's Atlanta showroom on Piedmont Avenue. I wanted a 1205 REAL bad; they had just come out with the PN-2, and the sight of all that turquoise-and-aluminum goodness gleaming in the show window was driving me nuts. I also wanted a B-8 shampooer-polisher, because I'd used one belonging to a friend and loved it.
The catch was, I was on my first real job, didn't have any credit to speak of, and the 1205 and B-8 would have been something like $500-600 total. Well, they let me down gently - they told me what they COULD do for me, and I left with the L - though I declined the turbo polisher as not being close enough to what I wanted. I got regular postcards from the agency after that, advising me of new models and sales on bags and tune-ups.
All gone now, and Aerus ain't the same.
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A Little Perspective....
If Atlanta's Electrolux agency had let me finance $500 worth of new equipment back in 1972, it would have been equal to more than $2500 today. I was asking for a lot, LOL.
The refurbished Model L was around $140, if memory serves, which would have been equal to more than $700 now.
Back then, consumer durables were DURABLE. Considering what they cost, they needed to be - you didn't want to buy a new vac every couple of years at those prices.
If Atlanta's Electrolux agency had let me finance $500 worth of new equipment back in 1972, it would have been equal to more than $2500 today. I was asking for a lot, LOL.
The refurbished Model L was around $140, if memory serves, which would have been equal to more than $700 now.
Back then, consumer durables were DURABLE. Considering what they cost, they needed to be - you didn't want to buy a new vac every couple of years at those prices.
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'flimsy' wands
These are a quality original wand set.But they may need a trick I learned as a sales rep.If wands fall apart hold one in each hand in T shape then roll the solid part of one wand over the slotted part of the other.On carpeted floor is good.The even pressure will tighten them as new.
These are a quality original wand set.But they may need a trick I learned as a sales rep.If wands fall apart hold one in each hand in T shape then roll the solid part of one wand over the slotted part of the other.On carpeted floor is good.The even pressure will tighten them as new.
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1205
My parents paid $200 back in 1970; & even includes the PN1 & Turbotool Rug Washer.
My parents paid $200 back in 1970; & even includes the PN1 & Turbotool Rug Washer.
floor-a-matic
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Rug Washer
They paid an extra $100 with the 1205 in 1970.
They paid an extra $100 with the 1205 in 1970.
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B8 Floor Polisher/Carpet Beautifier
I don't remember how much my parents paid for it back in 1970? Also at the same time as the 1205 & Rug Washer. My guess was about $200?
I don't remember how much my parents paid for it back in 1970? Also at the same time as the 1205 & Rug Washer. My guess was about $200?
floor-a-matic
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"Guesstimated" total they spent
$500 for everything; if that's what it all cost back then.
$500 for everything; if that's what it all cost back then.
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The other 1205
I bought from eBay back in 2004; 100% complete & pristine condition.
All I need to do is polish the chrome on top of vac & PN2.
I bought from eBay back in 2004; 100% complete & pristine condition.
All I need to do is polish the chrome on top of vac & PN2.
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Erik:
My memory of 1205 pricing is that it was around $300 full list price with the PN-2, and that the Carpet Beautifier was around $200-250. That was without trade-in.
It was a lot of money back in '72. A LOT. You could buy a Sears Best Kenmore vac and shampooer/polisher for way less than that - although you did not get the level of after-sale service available from Electrolux. Sears was already finding ways to drive customers nuts by the early '70s - the beginning of the long, slow demise that is still going on.
My memory of 1205 pricing is that it was around $300 full list price with the PN-2, and that the Carpet Beautifier was around $200-250. That was without trade-in.
It was a lot of money back in '72. A LOT. You could buy a Sears Best Kenmore vac and shampooer/polisher for way less than that - although you did not get the level of after-sale service available from Electrolux. Sears was already finding ways to drive customers nuts by the early '70s - the beginning of the long, slow demise that is still going on.
Sandy:
"Turquoise dusting brushes in good shape are getting a little hard to find."
You weren't kidding about that. I saw one on that auction site for $50 buy it now, which I thought was a little out of line. But then I found one on auction at $15, but by the time in closed it was up to $46. Yikes.
Joe
"Turquoise dusting brushes in good shape are getting a little hard to find."
You weren't kidding about that. I saw one on that auction site for $50 buy it now, which I thought was a little out of line. But then I found one on auction at $15, but by the time in closed it was up to $46. Yikes.
Joe
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Joe:
Hang in there - I've never paid more than $5, and I bought one only two weeks ago.
One source I would try if I were you is vac repair shops. They often have some used parts around, and if you ask nicely, they will usually try to help. This is how I got the one I just bought.
The only thing you have to worry about is the condition of the bristle insert and the rubber ring inside the brush (the part the wand goes into when you turn the brush around to use it as an upholstery tool). The insert is replaceable; the old one pulls out and the new one snaps in. Inserts are about $5-7.
The rubber ring is sometimes torn or cracked from long years of use. SuperGlue will bond it back together; you'll never know it was damaged.
eBay is the easiest way to find obscure stuff, true. But as with all forms of convenience, it's the most expensive, most of the time.
Hang in there - I've never paid more than $5, and I bought one only two weeks ago.
One source I would try if I were you is vac repair shops. They often have some used parts around, and if you ask nicely, they will usually try to help. This is how I got the one I just bought.
The only thing you have to worry about is the condition of the bristle insert and the rubber ring inside the brush (the part the wand goes into when you turn the brush around to use it as an upholstery tool). The insert is replaceable; the old one pulls out and the new one snaps in. Inserts are about $5-7.
The rubber ring is sometimes torn or cracked from long years of use. SuperGlue will bond it back together; you'll never know it was damaged.
eBay is the easiest way to find obscure stuff, true. But as with all forms of convenience, it's the most expensive, most of the time.
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Congratulations!
Joe, VERY nice work! From a fellow Kirby man, I believe that you will be well pleased!
Regarding bags: please check your messages.
Joe, VERY nice work! From a fellow Kirby man, I believe that you will be well pleased!
Regarding bags: please check your messages.
floor-a-matic
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Or you can tap between the slots of the wands; & they fit perfectly snug.
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<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino;">Can the rubber "donut" or upholstery "wing(s)" be purchased by itself or do I need to buy the whole combo duster/upholstery tool?</span>
Elecrolux Model G Automatic Control??
Help anybody? The catch on the hose end of the machine releases when I start the machine. Do I have a problem with the "automatic control" located inside the end where the filter bags go?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Help anybody? The catch on the hose end of the machine releases when I start the machine. Do I have a problem with the "automatic control" located inside the end where the filter bags go?
Thanks for any suggestions.
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