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I have a chance to buy a blue Filter Queen at a very good price.

I don't know a lot about them apart from they use a cyclone and as the name suggests filter very well.

Should I buy?

Thanks
 
A Filter Queen

A filter queen is one of the finest modern vacuums in my opinion. There very quiet and suck a lot. I would definitely get a filter queen.
 
Thank you Bill. Are they heavy? I know they are solidly built and that usually means heavy.
I think I will buy it. Be a nice vac to add to my small collection. '-) That will be a Kirby and a filter queen within a week.
What's happening to me haha 😀
 
There not too heavy...

I wouldn't call them very heavy but... yeah. maybe 20 pound-ish? It has a Ametek Lamb motor. The power nozzles are a little loud as well. The weight wouldn't matter as it rolls very easily across carpet and wood. I believe about past around 1965 a powernozzle and 2 speed switch were standard.
 
2 speed will come in handy.

Was just looking at the prices of the filters here in the UK. The cone filters are not too expensive but the Medipure is about £27. I won't be changing that too often being a tight arse! :)
 
Blue?

Either the 75th or 80th anniversary edition i'd guess. Is it worth it? Depends on the price. I've had filter queens (31, 33, 2x triple crowns, 2x 75th anniversary.) but i find they all lose airflow rapidly due to the cone filter, the cyclone really doesn't prevent fine dust from clinging to it. the powerheads are the other weak point they've just never cleaned very well. They are a machine built with good quality parts, and they typically last a long time, but performance wise they fail to impress me.
 
I found the machine...

I found the filter queen quiet east to use. Atleast it captures the fine dust. Only use genuine filter queen filters. There better quality. And the cyclone seems to work. There is no extreme airflow loss. There really is no way to effectively use a cyclone. The powerheads are ok; I can say a few things about it. The filter queen is way better than any wal-mart trash. I would consider a filter queen the northwestern equivalent to a Aerus. My Filter Queen 500 is much more powerful than My Electrolux LX, and it needs many new seals. I would highly suggest getting a FQ.
 
Blackheart wrote: They are a machine built with good quality parts, and they typically last a long time, but performance wise they fail to impress me.

I reply: I agree completely. I picked one up about a year ago for $5 and after spending ten times that much on replacement parts, I was thoroughly underwhelmed with its performance. Any of my Electrolux canisters will clean circles around it.
 
I would not get it

It depends on what is important to you but I would not get it for a couple of reasons. First, it's bagless, I'm not sure if it actually has a dirt bin that you empty or if all of the dirt goes in to the cone filter, but as stated above, it can lose airflow quickly, very typical problem with bagless vacuums. The other reason I would not get it is the hose end is nonstandard, at least on current models. Depending on how old this one is, that may or may not be the case, but if it is, you will be limited in what attachments you can use.
Mike
 
Mike,

The dirt collects in the bin like a shop vac. The cone helps create a vortex and provides a barrier between the bin and the motor. Fine dust collects on the cone with use, constricting suction. But I agree with you. I wouldn't bother with it, either.
 
Thank you for your replies. On consideration I think I will look elsewhere.

You are so lucky in the US you have so much choice of quality cleaners.
Here in the UK there is very little choice of quality bagged vacs, plenty of cheap bagless cleaners made in the far east though.

One cleaner i'd love to own is the Aerus Lux Platinum. That looks like a top quality machine!
I like some of the Riccars too.I used a Brilliance when I visited my relatives in Springfield Missouri. I was very impressed with it.Wanted to take it home with me :) Wish they were available in the UK but sadly I don't think they would sell many as there isn't a culture for spending that kind of money on Vacuum cleaners. :(
 
vacuum choices

If you want a Riccar, it may be possible to get one although you would have to use a converter since the motors run on 120 volts rather than 220. Actually, we have plenty of junk here as well. Unfortunately, current models by companies such as Hoover, Eureka, Bissell among others are simply not what they used to be. I would not even consider any of those or recommend them. You can still get good quality vacuums, though they are a bit more expensive. In no particular order I would suggest the Tacony vacuums, they make Riccar and Simplicity brands, Miele, Sebo, Aerus, or one of the high end Electrolux models such as the ultra one. Panasonic made some good vacuums but they have pulled out of the vacuum market, I'm not sure how good the new Sears Kenmore vacuums will be.
Regarding emptying a filter queen, emptying a bagless bin is a mess to say the least, you are making the right decision by not getting it.
Mike
 
Thanks Mike 😀 I like Sebo and Miele I've owned a few models cannister and uprights. The ultra one is available in the UK under the AEG brand. I have considered an Ultra One.
I've also considered importing vacs from the US but with shipping and import taxes the money soon mounts up. Plus to ship bags and filters is quite expensive too but I might do it sometime.
 
Marcus, I would agree with the majority here. In my experience, the Filter Queen canisters may be a high quality, long lasting cleaner, but lacking in cleaning performance. Due to using a paper cone with no micro filtration layer, as others have said the dust in the dirt picked up gets attracted instantly to the filter & causes it to lose most of it's suction & airflow with hardly any dirt in the bin. No wonder HMI Industries introduced the Filter Queen Optima canister with a paper bag in the 90's, I think they know this is a problem with their cleaner.

In addition, the current wand & powerhead neck need a redesign. It's a poor design that breaks far too easily, due to the clips used to secure the wand to the hose & powerhead neck, & this in turn causes the wiring in the wand & powerhead neck to fail prematurely. Unacceptable for the pricepoint this cleaner is sold at new. As for the powerhead, the current design uses a brushroll that is ineffective at grooming carpets & poor at dirt removal, & also needs a redesign. They should have stuck with the old powerhead design & made a swivel neck for it, at least that powerhead can have it's brushroll adjusted so the bristles stick out more & groom & clean better, comparable to a Electrolux PN5/6 powerhead when adjusted properly.

If Filter Queen wants to remain competitive in selling their product, these issues must be addressed IMMEDIATELY with the next model. And they need to scrap the paper cone, replace it with a cone made of HEPA Cloth material with a support to support it inside the bin, & the Medipure filter needs to be replaced with proper pleated HEPA Filter media inside the motor compartment, replacing the batting around the vents. These measures will make the cleaner a competitive product in the marketplace & will greatly help the DTD salesman in selling their product to the consumer.

Mike - I don't know if you were aware of this, but there are aftermarket hose, wand & powerhead kits available thru vac shop distributors to upgrade the Filter Queen. This is often encouraged by a vac shop if a customer brings in a current model with powerhead & wand issues instead of repairing the product & having the same issues repeatedly. These same kits can be found on Ebay & other sites as well, & since they use a common Plastiflex hose with 32mm 1.25 inch fitting, this allows the use of generic tools without needing to use a adapter.

Rob
 
A really good friend of mine has a Filter Queen (or "Filthy Queen" as we call it). I can't say I'm impressed with it. Suction is poor in comparison to other cylinders/tank cleaners in the UK - Numatic cleaners knock socks off FQ in terms of suction. The hose is long, build quality is excellent, but the powernozzle doesn't swivel so can be very awkward to use. It's a bit like pushing a Sega Megadrive on a stick over your floors.

They're also very messy to empty. Whilst the filters are very efficient and disposable rather than washable, having to tip the whole bucket upside down to empty it is messy and there's always a big dust cloud - imagine tipping a Henry bucket with no bag in it upside down over your dustbin to empty it.
 
Yes true. I saw one going cheap I was going to buy it but after hearing comments on here I've reconsidered.

I have an urge for something new but there's not much in the UK I like that I haven't ready used 😫
 
numatic

Forgot about that one, I have a Numatic Henry, very good vacuum. If you need a power nozzle this may not be a good choice though. I think at one time you could get Numatic vacuums with an electric connection for a power nozzle but not sure if that's still the case.
Mike
 
Henry's with the old style powernozzle were fantastic. Sadly PN cylinders never really took off in the UK. Mainly because they were much more expensive than both the equivalent suction cleaner & corresponding upright, so people tended to go for those over the PN models.
 

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