I think it is GREAT that someone is trying to revive an older vacuum cleaner brand.Give the man some credit!And I wish him success in this endevor
Fantom Technologies Inc (Announcement)
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crazykirbydude
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Someone should try to bring back the Air-Way brand!
nicktechtalk
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If you need any help with anything, such as photoshop, video editing, feel free to send me an email. [email protected]
If you need any help with anything, such as photoshop, video editing, feel free to send me an email. [email protected]
pr-21
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Kirkwoods Sweeper Shop, bought the Air-Way name and carry vacuums, not anyway similar to the original with the Air-Way name. They have a website.
PR-21
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carolinaguy1996
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Let's bring Sanyo and Panasonic back, with Sharp. The Japanese and Koreans are way superior than the Chinese.
panasonicvac
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Panasonic isn't technically "Gone" for good. They sold their manufacturing tools, machines, equipment, and designs to Cleva that is continuing making vacuums for Sears under the Kenmore name. Sharp isn't sure if they would like to make vacuums again but if they did, they wouldn't make them like they used to be.
carolinaguy1996
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Given that Sharp used to be big in electronics, with Panasonic and Sanyo. The latter is now owned by Funai, and sold at Wal-Mart.
kirbysthebest
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I was not trying to be discouraging.
I was reading on facebook that there is now a gofundme set up with a goal of $30,000 to accomplish this project.
Not wanting to be the doubting Thomas here, but add a couple of zeros and move the decimal point to the right. Not only do you have to acquire the name, but there are molds, tooling, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution cost involved. Again I wish you luck but there is going to be a lot more involved than redoing the logos.
I admire the intention and the ambition, but just adding a dose of reality here.
I was reading on facebook that there is now a gofundme set up with a goal of $30,000 to accomplish this project.
Not wanting to be the doubting Thomas here, but add a couple of zeros and move the decimal point to the right. Not only do you have to acquire the name, but there are molds, tooling, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution cost involved. Again I wish you luck but there is going to be a lot more involved than redoing the logos.
I admire the intention and the ambition, but just adding a dose of reality here.
dysonman1
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The launch of the Prima/Wonder model cost Tacony a couple of million dollars in research and development costs, manufacturing costs, marketing costs, etc. An individual injection mold for a single part can cost MORE than a million dollars.
kirbysthebest
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Yes Tom,
Exactly my point. Then you have to have someone, somewhere manufacture said parts, and assemble them. That's not counting raw materials.
Unless this is just for a licensing agreement, where there is going to be some manufacturer slap the logo on an existing model; I am going to estimate a minimum of $10 Mil to get up and running.
Exactly my point. Then you have to have someone, somewhere manufacture said parts, and assemble them. That's not counting raw materials.
Unless this is just for a licensing agreement, where there is going to be some manufacturer slap the logo on an existing model; I am going to estimate a minimum of $10 Mil to get up and running.
fantomtechguy
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To clear up some confusion...
There has been a lot of confusion about the project and I am here to clear everything up. I set up the Gofundme to raise money for the first part of the project. This first part of the project requires the name and loyalties purchasing. Then after that is complete, then the second part of the project will take place, opening up shop.
I am really passionate about this project and I will go through Hell and High water till people can go to the store, and leave with a Fantom Vacuum.
There has been a lot of confusion about the project and I am here to clear everything up. I set up the Gofundme to raise money for the first part of the project. This first part of the project requires the name and loyalties purchasing. Then after that is complete, then the second part of the project will take place, opening up shop.
I am really passionate about this project and I will go through Hell and High water till people can go to the store, and leave with a Fantom Vacuum.
nicktechtalk
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Question
This just crossed my mind today. If the goal is not met will you still be remastering the how to videos on DVD for the project backers? I think it would be cool to do even if the whole purchase for some reason does not get completed.
This just crossed my mind today. If the goal is not met will you still be remastering the how to videos on DVD for the project backers? I think it would be cool to do even if the whole purchase for some reason does not get completed.
fantomtechguy
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Yes
If the goal is not met, everyone who got the perks will still get them. Also check your email. I sent you a message.
If the goal is not met, everyone who got the perks will still get them. Also check your email. I sent you a message.
kirbysthebest
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Royalties and Trademarks
Will cost you a kings ransom to begin with. It is now worth more, because this is a public forum, and the powers that be will be able to ascertain there is someone placing value on their defunct name. Legal fees, well the $30K will be a nice retainer. I just caution the re-mastering, or reproducing logos for items that are owned by others. Don't even think about distributing them until you have ownership, or severe legal troubles could come your way.
I know of a man that was called Jeep. He opened a bar in his own name called Jeep's. Diamler-Chrysler sent him a cease and desist letter, followed by legal services to remove and de-image the name from the establishment due to trademark infringement. He attempted to fight them, but it came down to a protected property belonging to a cooperation who did not want "their" name used in another commercial operation. Bar is now named "Jed's".
Again I say--Wishing you well. [this post was last edited: 9/21/2017-16:47]
Will cost you a kings ransom to begin with. It is now worth more, because this is a public forum, and the powers that be will be able to ascertain there is someone placing value on their defunct name. Legal fees, well the $30K will be a nice retainer. I just caution the re-mastering, or reproducing logos for items that are owned by others. Don't even think about distributing them until you have ownership, or severe legal troubles could come your way.
I know of a man that was called Jeep. He opened a bar in his own name called Jeep's. Diamler-Chrysler sent him a cease and desist letter, followed by legal services to remove and de-image the name from the establishment due to trademark infringement. He attempted to fight them, but it came down to a protected property belonging to a cooperation who did not want "their" name used in another commercial operation. Bar is now named "Jed's".
Again I say--Wishing you well. [this post was last edited: 9/21/2017-16:47]
alexhoovers94
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You can't start watering dead plants and expect them to grow...
fantomtechguy
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Alexhoovers94
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
alexhoovers94
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Meaning..
It is in the past, let it go, you can't stand in the way of progression.
It is in the past, let it go, you can't stand in the way of progression.
fantomtechguy
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How can I stay in the way of progression, when I am the progression?
buster1849
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ALEXHOOVERS94 THAT IS THE MOST IRRELEVANT POST I HAVE EVER SEEN. You don't even live in the us so you can't control it. I am all for fantom coming back. It will be the only good vacuum left on the market. Dyson sucks and the early dysons look like fantom thunder/fury wannabes
buster1849
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Good point FTG
He is in progress of everything so he isn't in the way. I will certainly go out and buy a fantom. Even if it's 250+ dollars it will be worth it
He is in progress of everything so he isn't in the way. I will certainly go out and buy a fantom. Even if it's 250+ dollars it will be worth it
