Eureka Type H bags

[justjunque]

Just from doing a quick search, I’m pretty sure I already know the answer, but I’ll ask anyway.
Does anyone know of a HEPA version of the Eureka Type H bag, for the older canisters?
I’m just thinking ahead. There’s a good chance I won’t even be getting this vacuum. And, I don’t know the model number. But, looking at similar machines on eBay, I believe it would use the H bags.
It’s a little dark blue, straight suction version, that I’m trying to save from ending up in the landfill. But, I don’t seem to be making any headway with the current owner.
Thank you!

 

[justjunque]

I'm pretty sure I've posted these same pictures before, since I've been trying to get this vacuum for quite some time. But, if anyone is interested, here it is again.
Can you tell if it would, in fact, use Style H bags?
Also, what's pictured is all there is. Would I be likely to ever find the rest of the tools and wands for it?
Huh! Turns out, I did get a picture of the model info!

 

[eurekaprince]

Yes…that’s definitely a classic Princess canister that uses Style H bags…for sure.

Getting white Eureka attachments should be pretty easy. For the basic set of white tools, look for a set of unused Eureka upright attachments - I think the set is called Model 60 (A or B or C or any letter after the 60). With those sets you’ll get a brand new white dusting brush, upholstery nozzle, crevice tool and even one plastic wand and a plastic hose handle that would even fit on your hose.

Getting a bare floor brush and carpet nozzle may be a little more difficult, but they are out there. Some old vacuum shop may still have them New in Box from Eureka.

 

[justjunque]

Nice!
Thanks, Brian!
Any idea about how old it is? From reading posts by others, much more educated than myself, I recognize that the handle features the older, stylized "E" logo. But, the info tag doesn't say "Eureka Williams". So, I'm thinking those two details might help narrow it down some.
If I get it, (and that's a big "if"), I'll start looking for the attachment set. Maybe that set of attachments would even work with my Model 2010 upright? Not important...just wondering.

 

[eurekaprince]

Indeed, any Model 60 upright white attachment set would have a pan converter that will fit under any Eureka classic Dial-a-Nap upright. Just make sure you don’t get the black attachment set for the Eureka Ultra as that set has a different size pan converter.

As far as year is concerned, the classic E+W Eureka Williams logo on the handle places this definitely before 1983 when that graphic was phased out. But having “The Eureka Company” on the ratings plate places this model after 1974 when Sweden’s Electrolux bought the company and changed the name to simply the Eureka Company. The plastic hose handle and royal blue colour seems to me to indicate late 1970’s, after Eureka reintroduced a carpet nozzle with an integrated neck. These newer carpet nozzles were all white plastic, including the plastic neck.

 

[justjunque]

Thank you again!
While I'm picking your brain; am I correct in assuming that there's no such animal as a HEPA Style H bag?
I always want to use whatever will do the best job. Should I stick with genuine Eureka bags, or are there aftermarket bags that are of better quality?
I'm happy to see that many of the bags I see for sale, also come with the round filter for the top of the motor. Unlike my Hoover Celebrity, where the foam wrap-around motor filter is long extinct.

 

[eurekaprince]

Hi Barry….I have never seen a HEPA version of the Eureka H bag, unfortunately. I am sure that the very last “H Bag” canisters were made in the late 80’s, early 90’s at the very latest. And I don’t think there were enough “survivors” on the market to merit the inclusion of H bags when Eureka started making hepa bags in the final years of the company….sad to say.

I might be wrong on this, but the only guys would really know are any Vacuumlanders who were at one point Eureka dealers.

 

[justjunque]

Okay. Thanks. That's what I figured. I just didn't know if anyone had ever stumbled across an aftermarket brand that brought out a HEPA version more recently, like V.A.C. or one of those guys sometimes makes. There's probably not enough demand. I swear, it seems like you don't see as many older Eurekas as some of the other makes. Weren't they as popular when they were new? I always thought of them as one of the heavy hitters of the vacuum world.

 

[paul]

Barry,

I, too, was unable to find any Eureka Style H HEPA bags. Maybe you can make your own.

My Eureka research shows that the Model 3320 canister was advertised from 1976 until 1991 in Types A, B & D. Unfortunately, I was unable to find an ad that included "Model 3320-B", but I did find that "3320-A" was sold through the end of 1982, so because the logotype on yours is the 1966 version I would estimate it to be a late 1982 or early 1983 unit. 1983 was when the handle logotype was changed to the Helvetica caps.

To clarify, Eureka used the Princess model name first in 1961 on the original "turtle shape (later 500 Series) canister. "Princess II" denoted the change to the trapezoidal shape, then in 1964, "Princess" was used to denote the trapezoidal shape with the inside tool tray. So the 3320 was known for a time as a "Princess II" (lacking the inside tool tray), but later with no model name like the one you posted.

As for the tool set, most ads mentioned the deluxe 7-piece set. The 60 series tool sets (Types A, B, D, & E) had 6-pieces—including the converter—for uprights. The canister tool set was included, so the model-type was not advertised.

Here are some advertisements and photos. I included photos of the contemporaneous Model 3710 Deluxe canister (higher amps & PHP) & Model 3320 with the Tool-Pak as a reference.

1. 1981 Dec 8 YOUNGSTOWN VINDICATOR - Model 3320
2. 1982 Feb 24 TUSCALOOSA NEWS - Models 1406, 3320, 1424
3. 1982 Feb 25 DAILY NEWS - Models 1425 & 3320
4. 1982 Apr 6 ST. PETERSBURG TIMES - Model 3320
5. 1982 Oct 20 TUSCALOOSA NEWS - Models 2068-RBY, 1429-A, 3320-A, 1514-A
6. 1985 Mar 3 DAILY SENTINEL - Model 3320
7. 1985 Mar 15 EVENING NEWS - Models 3320 & 3710
8. Model 3320 photo
9. Model 3710 photo

 

[paul]

I forgot to mention that one of the changes along the way was the increas in PHP from 1.2 to 2.0.

 

[paul]

P. S. The Eureka trapezoidal shape canister (originally named Princess II) was first produced in 1963—60 years ago this calendar year!

 

[paul]

Correction—Reply #8

Photo #8 is actually the Model 3330.

 

[paul]

Regarding the tools, ask Jimmy (Rugsucker) if he has any. He's in the process of clearing out his vintage stock.

 

[eurekaprince]

Though I have not found any hepa cloth Style H bags, it looks like Eureka produced these bags well into the 2000’s, just before China’s Midea took over the company. The newest H bag packages I found show the Eureka name all in lower case letters, with an exclamation mark at the end…see eBay link below. That name branding was only used in the late 1990’s and early 2000’s. These might be your best bet for decent filtration as they are the newest ones found on the internet….

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/335070721970

 

[paul]

Hey Brian,

The most recent I too found was the one with the Eureka & exclamation point logotype copyrighted 2010. It seems that Eureka produced its own bags in the US until 1983—at least according to the packaging. The H Bags & filter discs are still available on Amazon, so maybe they're still being manufactured. If so, maybe that company could be requested to make a HEPA version.

I did some more looking and found several Eureka OEM mpns on various packaging styles. I also included some aftermarket ones on eBay - including one by Hoover! Some of those indicated other brand's cleaner models. Were they all just rebadges, or were there different stylings that took the H Bags and filter discs?

Here they are (filter discs included):

1. 45566-1 "Sanitized"—6-pack Eureka Williams era (not copyrighted—pre-1975)
2. 52231—4-pack, Series 500, 550, 600, 700, 3200, 3300, 3400, 1240, 1250 (copyrighted 1978)
3. 52351—10 Pack 1500 Series added to previous listing; "Manufactured for The Eureka Company" (copyrighted 1983)
4. 52323—3-pack, (copyrighted 1985)
5. 52323—3-pack, "Made in Sweden" (copyrighted 1988)
6. 52323—3-pack, (copyrighted 1991)
7. 52323—3-pack, "Made in the USA" (copyrighted 1997)
8. 52323A—3-pack, "Made in China" (copyrighted 2004)
9. 52323B—3-pack, "Made in China" (copyrighted 2010)
10. 52323B-6—6-pack Masterpack carton "Made in China" (copyrighted 2010)
11. Hoover 40100511—Eureka Princess, Wizard Starlite, Firestone Deluxe
12. VacMaster 320—Princess 500 & 700, Beaumark 7000, 8000, 98000; Brentwood W560-750; Lewyt LV-40, LV60, Singer E-3, E-4, E-8

 

[kirbylux77]

Hoover Type S HEPA Cloth Bags

I have never seen a Eureka H bag available for the metal canisters. However, the Eureka B bag also fits those vacuums, and it's a square bag. The Hoover Type S HEPA Cloth bags for the Futura/Dimension/Windtunnel canisters are basically about the same size, so what you could do is save a few Eureka collars, put the Hoover bag in, and use a paper clip or double sided tape to put the Eureka collar on top so it has the right hole size and would seal to the hose when you close the lid. Best part is, those bags are available in generic form. Another bag you could also try is the Kenmore Type C HEPA Cloth bags, however those bags are much longer than the Hoover bag, but the hole size on the bag collar should be a close match.

 

[kirbyclassiciii]

Paul

In reply #8 here, for the 8th picture in it, the 3320 looks to be a transitional model, since the deluxe floor/wall nozzle has the newer EUREKA wordmark while the canister still uses the old 1968 Eureka-Williams-style graphic, so this 3320 would be about a 1983 model.

~Ben

 

[paul]

Good eye, Ben!