Electrolux USA Canister Motors Interchangeability

[kevin]

Can anyone help me make a list of Electrolux USA canister motors? I'm thinking it would be a good resource for those who are wondering which motor mounts and motor housing sizes are the same when looking for replacements. It would also be interesting to note how the watts, amps, and volts have changed through the years. Here is a starter list:

1937-41, 1947-48: Model XXX, 475 watts, 4.1 amps, 115 volts (same 3 screw mounts and size of all other Model XXXs)

1949-1954: Model XXX, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts (same 3 screw mounts and size of all other Model XXXs)

1952-1955: Model LX, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts

1955: Model LXI, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts

1955-1956: Model E, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts

1955-1957: Model AE, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts

1956: Model T, 535 watts, 4.7 amps, 115 volts

1957-1961: Model F, 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1957-1960: Model S, 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1960-1963: Model R, 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1961-1966: Model G (aqua), 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1963-1966: Model L (ivory), 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1966-1968: Model G (tan), upgraded 535 watts, 4.7 amps 5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1966-1968: Model L (tan), uggraded 535 watts, 4.7 amps (5.9 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1968-1974: Model 1205 (teal) & Model L (teal) v.1 535 watts, 4.7 amps, (5.9 amps w/PN) 115 volts
v.2 600 watts, 5.2 amps (6.4 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1974-1975: Model 1205/Golden J (gold) & Model L (gold) 600 watts, 5.2 amps (6.4 amps w/PN), 115 volts

1975-1978: Model 1401/Super J & Model L (gold, v.2): 996 watts, 8.3 amps (9.7 amps w/PN), 120 volts

1978-1982: Model 1401, 1401-B, 1505/Olympia One 996 watts, 8.3 amps (9.7 amps w/PN), 120 volts

1978-1987: Model 1453 (brown/cream, two-toned gray, sand/jade, beige/taupe 660 watts, 5.5 amps (7.7 amps w/PN), 120 volts

1982-1985: Model 1505/Silverado v.1 1032 watts, 8.6 amps (10 amps w/PN), 120 volts
v.2 ??

 

[bikerray]

Kevin

Getting out some of my spare motors to look at ( I'm guessing you don't care about the model XI or XII motor) for some reason I can't find my spare G motor at the moment.

The late model XXX (1949 and later) motor and the LX, LXI, E, AE, AF are all basically the same motor the only difference is the way the capacitor is mounted to the rear frame. The XXX used a flat capacitor that went into a space on the lower arm of the bearing support, the LX, etc. the capacitor was round and just clipped on.

Some of these had a rubber shock mount clipped to motor and riveted the suspension ring (XXX)

The G used the same motor but had a different mounting ring, I think it used 4 studs from the bulkhead rather than 3. Somewhere in the G series I think they changed the armature. They used the G motor in the 1205 and Golden Jubilee with a rectangular mounting ring around the motor.

the 1205 and later has the motor suspended with 4 screws going from the suspension ring into the motor frame.

The 1401 had the longer armature and bigger motor but still uses the 1205 mounting system.

 

[tig21er]

Biker Ray

says that the late 1949 XXX up to AF are basically the same motor, the only difference being the Capacitor. I beg to differ. Each motor is unique. The motors evolved after the XXX and the LX and LXl. The motors had the same amps, wattage but their performance improved. The E motor had the change from thick fans to thin, the stationary fans system changed , the Bronze bearing was used on the commutator end and the 38 MM was started to be used. When the AE came out the motor was the same as E. In the AF another change came in the Stationary Fan system. And when the G came out more change occurred in the insides of the motor.
As Electrolux has always said amps, HP and wattage do not clean a carpet it is the design of the motor and attachments.
When a model XXX came in during the late 1960s , a model G motor would be put in with the old connector soldered to the wires that went to the switch. It gave the XXX fantastic power. The same mounting was the same as far as the 3 hole configuration.

 

[kevin]

Thanks for the information, Ray and John. Very interesting. So, which motors would be interchangeable--or are they all until the larger Super J motor?

Also, I forgot to list the Model GHs (hospital Gs). Would they each have had the same respective motors as their household counterparts, or were they different?

 

[bikerray]

Sorry, apparently I'm an idiot and don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about.

 

[kevin]

Actually, Ray, I didn't think that John was slamming you as much as having a different perspective (unless I'm missing something else between the two of you).

Anyway, I value your knowledge and insights so keep posting. Forgot to mention before that I am interested in the XI, XII--and even the V and XIIA. I just don't know anything at all about them except their model designations because of their ages and rarity.

 

[tig21er]

Biker Ray,

I am not trying to slam you but wanted to let you know about important changes and yes the motors were interchangeable. You could put a XXX in a G and vice versa. You spoke of motor mounts, I spoke of change of inside. My father was an aeronautical engineer and I worked on turbine engines and learned the secret of Electrolux suction change without changing power. You are very Knowledgeable.

 

[tig21er]

Hospital G

had the same G motor.

 

[rugsucker]

Electrolux motors & fans

There was an early 1205 motor with a built in spacer on rear fan that did not do well with heavy use and was to be replaced when seen with the fan & separate spacer.Also bearing plate screws went in from motor side instead of fan side as with later.

 

[dysonman1]

1940 and 1941

Electrolux motors were unique in that the bearing bridge and motor mounts and carbon brush holders were BAKELITE. The mounting rings, for the most part, all broke and very few survive today. Here's a perfect one.

 

[kenkart]

Tom..

I also have one of those...Also these model 30s have a cast aluminum rear section and a basket type filter...The older one is on the left..

 

[kenkart]

Here are the

machines,Side view.You can also see that the side trim on the earlier machine is aluminum instead of steel.

 

[tig21er]

I

brought this back out front because I was looking at 1962 price list. Part #10402 was the replacement # for XXX,LX, E, AE, S T, AF G and G.
#3402 was Model XXX dustbag, #410 was Xll, T dust bag, 4741 was E dust bag, #10248 Dust BAg (AE, AF, G) ,!10250 dust bag for (L, S, R).

 

[kevin]

I never knew that the models past the LXI had dust bags. I also didn't realize that the bag chamber of the LXs and LXIs were a different diameter than those mentioned above; presumably, that is--otherwise, how were the bags different? Funny I've never seen them on eBay ... or at least I don't think I have!

 

[kevin]

John,

Don't think I've asked you this before (if I have excuse me) ... do you have inventory lists of the vintage machines that match serial ids with years of manufacture? I'm hoping to find someone who has them, so I can pin-point the actual years of manufacture of vintage machines rather than just have a range. Aerus has discarded its old records and can only give such information on machines manufactured since the mid-1980s or so.