Electrolux metal body motor weight comparison
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I wouldn't know on that because many machines I sold in the beginning were put in under my Father. I sold my first new one Door to door when I was 11. I was going to need money for Boy Scouts a few weeks later and my Mom said Go tell your Father and he 'll get it for you. We were in the garage and Dad told me in no certain order -You've been to the sales meetings ,you know how to demo, you know the approaches. You have a new wagon there, put a cleaner in it and go out to sell you one. I did.
Dad worked in the factory at nights and didn't know I went out and sold one.
I heard every excuse in the book , had doors slammed in my face, laughed at, never cussed out though. It was a great learning experience.
By the way my Dad said to my mother he was just joking after my Mom told him a cleaner was sold and I did it Door to Door. Full Commission and no taxes.
I wouldn't know on that because many machines I sold in the beginning were put in under my Father. I sold my first new one Door to door when I was 11. I was going to need money for Boy Scouts a few weeks later and my Mom said Go tell your Father and he 'll get it for you. We were in the garage and Dad told me in no certain order -You've been to the sales meetings ,you know how to demo, you know the approaches. You have a new wagon there, put a cleaner in it and go out to sell you one. I did.
Dad worked in the factory at nights and didn't know I went out and sold one.
I heard every excuse in the book , had doors slammed in my face, laughed at, never cussed out though. It was a great learning experience.
By the way my Dad said to my mother he was just joking after my Mom told him a cleaner was sold and I did it Door to Door. Full Commission and no taxes.
Great story, John. It's pretty amazing that at 11 years old you were so courageous and persistent.
I would think Aerus would be keeping track of its salespeople and given you awards at your anniversaries with the company.
I'd like to hear your salespitch--I bet you really have it down!
I would think Aerus would be keeping track of its salespeople and given you awards at your anniversaries with the company.
I'd like to hear your salespitch--I bet you really have it down!
real1shep
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<a name="start_33288.363710"></a>Super J to Silverado used the same made in house motor. The only outsource during the Super J run was due to a fire at factory in the armature part of factory. The first recall of the Super J was on the K------S series( serial numbers). The armature was replaced as well as the carbon brushes. The outsource company was not up to Electrolux standard.
As far as the Diamond Jubilee the motor was not outsourced but made at the Piney Flats factory of Electrolux in Virginia. The motors had a problem in the western states where high heat was. Modifications were made to the commutator and other places in the motor and referred as HP motor . If a person had a problem in that first motor they were replaced free.
The motors on the early Specials were not the same as Super j to DJ .The armature and Carbon Brushes were same as 1205. Making the motor shorter and less powerful. The motor on DJ color Special is DJ style motor but not the power.
OK so are you saying that the Olympia 1 and Silverado had the exact same big motor as the Super J? If anyone has the story correct, you do. I knew about the run of bad Super J's because of the fire and outsourced armatures...I also knew that Electrolux stood faithfully behind all their motor failures, including the Diamond J. I was told erroneously then, that the DJ motor was a complete outsourced unit.
I live out west and have never had any DJ motor failure in the dozen or so units I 've restored for people. But then some of them could have been factory replaced motors and not the original....dunno. I'm not saying the DJ is a 'great' motor design, but I've had no trouble with them including the new unit and accessories I had back around 83/84.
Would an HP motor have a sticker or some way to designate it from the early DJ motor?
Kevin
As far as the Diamond Jubilee the motor was not outsourced but made at the Piney Flats factory of Electrolux in Virginia. The motors had a problem in the western states where high heat was. Modifications were made to the commutator and other places in the motor and referred as HP motor . If a person had a problem in that first motor they were replaced free.
The motors on the early Specials were not the same as Super j to DJ .The armature and Carbon Brushes were same as 1205. Making the motor shorter and less powerful. The motor on DJ color Special is DJ style motor but not the power.
OK so are you saying that the Olympia 1 and Silverado had the exact same big motor as the Super J? If anyone has the story correct, you do. I knew about the run of bad Super J's because of the fire and outsourced armatures...I also knew that Electrolux stood faithfully behind all their motor failures, including the Diamond J. I was told erroneously then, that the DJ motor was a complete outsourced unit.
I live out west and have never had any DJ motor failure in the dozen or so units I 've restored for people. But then some of them could have been factory replaced motors and not the original....dunno. I'm not saying the DJ is a 'great' motor design, but I've had no trouble with them including the new unit and accessories I had back around 83/84.
Would an HP motor have a sticker or some way to designate it from the early DJ motor?
Kevin
Silverado motor
Silverado motors were the same as O-1. The motor you show is a replacement motor that came out when the motors changed to DJ style motor. How do I know? I was a service manager when motors were replaced in the older models.My Silverado which was the last style made with the P/N5 has the same motor as Super J.
Silverado motors were the same as O-1. The motor you show is a replacement motor that came out when the motors changed to DJ style motor. How do I know? I was a service manager when motors were replaced in the older models.My Silverado which was the last style made with the P/N5 has the same motor as Super J.
real1shep
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I wondered
why Electrolux didn't keep going with the Super J motor after the demise of the Super J. Considering how much money they had invested into it, it makes sense it kept going into a few other models. I had just been given erroneous information on this in the past. Thanks!
Kevin
why Electrolux didn't keep going with the Super J motor after the demise of the Super J. Considering how much money they had invested into it, it makes sense it kept going into a few other models. I had just been given erroneous information on this in the past. Thanks!
Kevin
real1shep
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<a name="start_33288.363710"></a>The motors had a problem in the western states where high heat was. Modifications were made to the commutator and other places in the motor and referred as HP motor. If a person had a problem in that first motor they were replaced free. <a name="start_33288.363842"></a>
Is there any way to distinguish an HP motor from the original DJ motor?
Kevin
Is there any way to distinguish an HP motor from the original DJ motor?
Kevin
real1shep
Well-known member
<a name="start_33288.363710"></a>The motors had a problem in the western states where high heat was. Modifications were made to the commutator and other places in the motor and referred as HP motor. If a person had a problem in that first motor they were replaced free. <a name="start_33288.363842"></a>
Is there any way to distinguish an HP motor from the original DJ motor?
Kevin
Is there any way to distinguish an HP motor from the original DJ motor?
Kevin
1401, 1401-B, 1505 Motor Ratings
The amp ratings listed on the bag doors are (introductions in parentheses):
1401 Super J (Late-1975) & Olympia One (Early-1979): 9.7 amps--with power nozzle
1401-B Olympia One (Late-1979): 9.7 amps--with power nozzle
1505 Olympia One (Early-1982) & Silverado (Late-1982): 10 amps--with power nozzle
So was the 1401/1401-B motor tweaked for the 1505 (like the aqua to tan Model G motors), or were there two different motors?
If the 1505 rating just reflected the pn change (1.2 to 1.4, originally), then it would have been rated 9.9 amps (note: the Discovery series uprights were rated 8.1 amps--not a rounded #).
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PN-2 (Early-1973): 1.2 amps
PN-4 (Early-1976), PN-4A (Early-1982): 1.4 amps
PN5 (Early- or Late-1983): 1.8 amps
Note: I don't think the amp ratings on the bag doors were changed when the power nozzles were changed.
The amp ratings listed on the bag doors are (introductions in parentheses):
1401 Super J (Late-1975) & Olympia One (Early-1979): 9.7 amps--with power nozzle
1401-B Olympia One (Late-1979): 9.7 amps--with power nozzle
1505 Olympia One (Early-1982) & Silverado (Late-1982): 10 amps--with power nozzle
So was the 1401/1401-B motor tweaked for the 1505 (like the aqua to tan Model G motors), or were there two different motors?
If the 1505 rating just reflected the pn change (1.2 to 1.4, originally), then it would have been rated 9.9 amps (note: the Discovery series uprights were rated 8.1 amps--not a rounded #).
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PN-2 (Early-1973): 1.2 amps
PN-4 (Early-1976), PN-4A (Early-1982): 1.4 amps
PN5 (Early- or Late-1983): 1.8 amps
Note: I don't think the amp ratings on the bag doors were changed when the power nozzles were changed.
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