Electrolux Diamond Jubilee needs new brushes

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I would keep

The Diamond Jubilee and all of its parts and attachments if you have the room. Anything still functioning on it will work on the Marquise as the Marquise was the next model after the Diamond Jubilee. All main unit parts and attachments and the hose are all interchangeable between the two.

Glad you have a solution.

Jon
 
Not the solution

I wanted but my mom has something like what she's used to. I do plan on keeping the DJ for the parts. I got another reply from one of the franchises in another state, they can't get those carbon brushes anymore, only solution is to buy a new motor for $230. There's still a part of me that thinks somewhere those brushes can be found, but that may be just wishful thinking. I do appreciate all of the suggestions everyone passed along.

Steve
 
You could...

Always put the Marquise motor into the DJ if you really wanted it to be complete especially if the DJ body is better but I’d probably just pick whichever one has the best body and keep the other for the parts.

Perhaps you’ll come across another in the future with a good motor and you can swap the motor into the DJ.

Glad we could help.

Jon
 
The body of the DJ and Marquis are about the same condition actually. My cousin found a Silverado at the dump and it works just fine. The body has rust places and the cord was repaired with electrical tape. That might be why someone got rid of it. Does the Silverado and DJ use the same motor?

Steve
 
The Silverado motor is the old Super J motor design. The Diamond J motor has a different history.

It was the first motor not to come in-house from the Connecticut plant. Depending on who you talk to it was either a completely outsourced motor or a motor made in another Electrolux plant down south.

They had problems with the motor originally, but Electrolux stood behind the vac completely and fixed all that had issues. I would think those vacs with problem motors either got fixed or went to the landfill.....I've never seen a Diamond J with a bad motor and I've restored at least 15 of them.

As to whether or not a Silverado motor will fit into a Diamond J...I don't know, never tried it. But I bet the Diamond J motor has the same lift or more of the old Super J design....albeit noisier.

Kevin
 
There was a.......

fire early on in production of the Super J at the Connecticut plant. So they went out of house to have the motor armatures made. Electrolux also had trouble with those motors and again, made good on replacing them.

The serial #'s of the motors in question have been documented in here. By the time the Silverado was introduced, there were no more motor issues that I'm aware of.

Kevin
 
You're.....

welcome. And for some more weirdness....all the motors in Electrolux Canada tanks were stronger than their US counterparts. Up until the 90's when Electrolux merged the two factions(and not for the better).

Kevin
 
The brushes and their metal sleeves look nearly identical to me. Will the metal sleeves fit in the plastic holders? Is everything the same dimensions? I feel like everyone may be overlooking a very simple solution.

The old brushes have a wire on them, but the wire appears to be a tiny pigtail, with a female spade connector on each end. All other things being equal, the only difference would be the manner of electrical connection. Apparently, the spade connector on the brush sleeve is somewhat of an anomaly. Perhaps a different supplier, oddball in-between revisions thing, or aftermarket. Looking at the terrible photograph on the seller's website, the lower brush in the picture looks to have two tiny holes on the bottom left hand side of the picture. Those look like holes for a small gauge wire to be fed through and soldered on. That's what it looks like to my eye, anyway. Mind you the picture is awful.

So if these brush & sleeve assemblies fit the bill every other which way, solder some wire in there and boom, you're done.
 
Sorry.....

I don't have a DJ on the bench to restore right now. I'm not taking apart my DD Diamond J or I could end this debate/query right now.

Here is a pic showing what the larger Super J brushes look like and either a G brush set or a possible Diamond J set.....don't remember

Kevin

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You.....

can't solder the braided wire onto/into brush carbon, of course. Looks like they drill a hole and shove the wire into it somehow....never seen the process done.

Kevin
 
I guess I didn't make myself clear. The brush sleeve or housing is metal, probably steel, and it's more than possible to solder wire to it. If you'd care to look at the picture as I described in great detail...

Now replacing just the brush in the housing is probably what I would do anyway.
 
I don't....

know why this as gone this far....talking about replacing brush holders.

You clean the holders and put new brushes in and dress the commutator with a stone.....unless a a holder is damaged somehow.

I've never had to replace the holders along with the brushes just because. No reason for me to look at detailed pics. It's like walking around the barn or going straight through it.

If he found the right size brushes with braided leads and nothing else, it would be easy to reuse the springs and attach to the holders in the same fashion as the OE setup.

Kevin
 
Social

Distancing needs to be reinstated I see.
The man wants OEM parts that might not exist. He will not solder a spring onto a carbon brush. He has rebuilt slot of electroluxs in his day. OEM certified parts from a company that is no longer in business will only suffice.
 
I mean, I'm with you there, Kevin. But apparently no one else is. I don't really know anything about these particular brush assemblies, but I *have* seen one type that is not possible to replace just the brush in the sleeve without destroying it. I was just offering general advice, in case these were something like that.
 
Thanks.....

MM, but I just don't remember on the Diamond J....if the brushes are integral with the holders as a unit. Been some yrs since I was in one, but I don't remember this as an issue. If they were unobtainium or a real hassle to get, seems like I would remember it.

Kevin
 
The brushes.....

I pictured on the left, up above, are very close to those measurements. So I'm guessing they are probably for a G. But it's the same design and were available as little as five yrs ago.

Thanks for posting the brush specs for Diamond J. Now, if we can find a source, we can put this thread to rest.

Kevin
 
Good....

question. The ones I pictured above are about 1.25" in length.

I don't remember length requirements because I bought brushes specific for Diamond J and never gave it a second thought. The motor in the Diamond J was a break from the traditional Elux motors, so you can't really compare.

Kevin
 

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