Electrolux Diamond Jubilee needs new brushes

[chafer444]

I have an Electrolux Diamond Jubilee that needs new brushes but I need the part number of the motor. As far as I know it's the original motor and I've looked online for a parts list but never found one. I don't have the vacuum with me so I can't look myself. I was hoping someone could tell me what the part number is. I'm new to the forum and would appreciate your help, thanks.

 

[jo]

Not sure but here’s an idea

Electrolux is now called Aerus. You may wish to contact your local Aerus dealer and see if they can give you the number or have the brushes in stock. I’m not sure there ever was a particular part number for the motor brushes. You might need the serial number which is on the bottom of the main unit stamped on the plastic glide and swivel wheel bracket. It should start and end with a letter and have several digits in the middle. The diamond jubilee may have had more than one motor put in during its production as the early models had issues so they may need the serial number to tell which motor your has.

Are you in Morristown, New Jersey by chance?

Jon

 

[chafer444]

Jon I called Aerus last week and tried to email one of their franchises in Asheville, but they never responded. I found some companies that sell motor brushes but they always ask for the part number of the motor to make sure the right one is ordered. I thought I might be able to get that here are looking at some older threads. I live in Morristown TN.

 

[jo]

Ok

A lot of people have found this Aerus dealer very helpful. While out of state, he has a reputation for helping out distant customers. He has been an Electrolux franchise for a very long time, since 1976. His name is Ray Satterwhite. He may be able to send you what you need. His franchise website is rvavacuums.com and his phone number is there on the site. His son Bryan restores old units as well so he is not just interested in selling you a new machine from what I understand.

He is out of Richmond VA. Sorry the local franchise isn’t being too helpful for you.

Took a long shot you were in NJ...I grew up in Morristown, NJ and that’s why I asked.

Let us know how you make out. I need brushes for my Electrolux Silverado, if he can get you your I may call him for mine.

Jon

http://www.rvavacuums.com/

 

[chafer444]

Jon thanks for that link I'll give them a call today. This repair job has turned into a real treasure hunt. Never thought it'd be so hard to track down a part. I did run across another site that has brushes, but I know nothing about them https://www.sweetsweep.com/elmocabrsujo.html We used to have a real good repair shop in Morristown for decades, but it went out of business 12-18 months ago.

Steve

 

[kloveland]

You could try searching Google or eBay and match up the old brushes to an image of the new ones. That’s what I’ve done in the past. Usually the listing will be something like model G brushes with the model identified.

 

[kloveland]

These may work. See link below.



https://www.ezvacuum.com/electrolux...WlpcBMOCzccoumjEIhuG_Fau9cIGBPDBoC1P0QAvD_BwE

 

[s31463221]

Steve

I looked at Kenny's link....if you scroll down to the comments, someone asked if these would fit a Diamond Jubilee, and the answer was Yes.... Hope that helps!

Steve

 

[jo]

On another note

While you are repairing the motor, you may want to check your hose. If it is the braided type they often disintegrate from the inside out and gradually start leaking resulting in poor suction and cleaning efficiency. The newer rubber type don’t do that so if you have one of those you should be good. But if it’s braided once you get the motor going again, you might want to check the hose.

To check the hose, open the blower door on the top, and run the vacuum without the hose on covering the suction end with your hand and there should be virtually no air blowing out from the blower port. Then put the hose on, make sure the suction control valve on the hose handle is closed, then cover the suction end of the hose at the handle and check hoe much air is coming out of the blower port end and if it’s a lot, the hose is leaking. Make sure the suction control wheel on the hose Handle is closed when performing this check.

The old braided hoses usually only last 10 to 20 years so you may have already replaced. If it turns out you need a new one used genuine ones are usually available on eBay every now and then and generics are available too But they tend to not be as good and new genuine ones are available from Aerus and Ray Satterwhite can send one.

If you have a sidekick mini power nozzle some of the generic hoses won’t work with it. I recommend a genuine hose because people have complained of issues with the suction control valves not staying shut on the generics as well as the screws stripping out in time and the sidekicks not working. The hose is a heavy use item and so I have found getting the genuine is best especially if the machine is a regular use machine.

If it turns out you need a hose and you wish to try to find a genuine used one on eBay we can tell you what to look for in the pictures. The hose handle should have the round dial for the suction control valve for surre and no switch on the handle to control the power nozzle. Aerus/Electrolux stopped stamping Electrolux on the hose handles after 2003 when the name changed to Aerus so some newer ones may not have that on them which makes it harder to tell the generics from the OEM’s.

Jon

 

[chafer444]

Wow it was nice to check the thread after work see the all the good info. Kenny thanks for that link, I'll definitely be calling them. Jon the hose was replaced some years ago so we don't have to worry about that. I know what you're talking with those braided hoses. A few years ago I was cleaning out my grandparent's old house and found my grandmother's Electrolux 1205. It had been buried under some old sheets and clothes. I thought it probably doesn't work, but I plugged it in and it fired right up. Now it had no suction because the lining of the hose had deteriorated, but the guy at our now closed repair shop replaced it. So it works great.

I called Ray in Richmond, he said those brushes can be pretty hard to find, so he gave me two suggestions. I can ship the vacuum to him and his son can see if he find some used ones to install and he'd service the engine. The other was to buy an updated Diamond Jubilee called the Lux Classic. I'm glad there's another option. Thanks again for all the help. I wish I could find a forum like this for replacement thermostats in a wall heater.

Steve

 

[chafer444]

I ordered the brushes from the above link and I'm not sure they're right. I posted a photo of one of the old brushes and the new ones I ordered. The old one has a sleeve with place for a wire that connects to the motor. The new brush doesn't so it doesn't appear this will work. Any suggestions?

 

[jo]

I wonder

I wonder if the carbon brush Itself can be taken out of the brass part and installed into the original brass part that came out of your machine? I guess you’d have to see if the carbon brush will come out of the old one first for experimenting so you don’t ruin the new part if it doesn’t work.

I’ll be watching as other members weigh in. Perhaps Bryan Satterwhite has some experience with this in his “restorations” but I do know there are some members here that rebuild motors so hopefully they will help out.

Jon

 

[chafer444]

Jon I wondered about that too. I sent an email to the website to see what they say. I hope I get a reply. Some website show only the brush and spring which makes it appear possible. What a rule, I can only post one time in 30 minutes.

Steve

 

[jo]

Here’s something...

I saw this set on eBay as well as a set just like what you got. I’m wondering if this set is similar to what is inside yours.

This set says it fits the model Set previous to yours Which had a different style motor so not sure I’d recommend. But I wanted to send the picture since it shows the brushes with the spring and the copper wire that runs through the spring and at the one end has the little brass plate for contact with the brass holder and the other end has the wire going into the carbon brush itself. If your old one is like this and the brass holder is nearly identical in size to your original then you may be able to swap out the brush/spring assembly with the new set into the original brass holder.

That’s about all I can offer. Do the old brushes slide out of the old brass holder or do they appear to be locked in in some way?

I’ll look and see if I can find the member name that offered to rebuild my Silverado’s motor. Perhaps you can email him, he may have a better idea with all of this. I am interested because I think my Silverado may just need new brushes.

What were your symptoms? Mine suddenly seemed to run at a slower speed and have a lot of hissing sound with the rotation as it would slow down upon shutting off and it didn’t smell good. I shut it off right away so as to avoid damage to the armature but am still unsure of exactly what went wrong, if it’s the bearing seizing or the motor brushes having worn out but I’m guessing it’s one of those two if not both.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Generic-El...752554?hash=item2c83bcd8aa:g:NmIAAOxy4dNS7jSq

Jon

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Generic-El...752554?hash=item2c83bcd8aa:g:NmIAAOxy4dNS7jSq

 

[chafer444]

Jon
The vacuum just stopped working one day, it really didn't give any warning. I'm not sure if the spring will come out of the holder. My cousin only pulled the brush part of the way out. I also made some measurements of the old and new brushes and there are a couple of differences. The new holder is 2 millimetres longer than the old one. And the new brush is about one millimetre less thick than the old one. So I'm gonna say this likely won't be a good replacement. I looked at the item on Ebay, it's hard to say if they'd be a match or not. I finally got a reply from Ezvacuum, they'll see if they have the right brushes in stock.

Steve

 

[blknblu]

Please take a picture of the motor. I have several DJ's (in storage right now)
The set you received fits an Electro Motor style Electrolux motor. Motors from Super J up can fit this model.

 

[chafer444]

Sven, I don't have the vacuum with me so I'm not sure when I can get a photo.

I asked Ezvacuum if they'd pay the return postage because I bought the part based on incorrect info on their site. The rep replied, The carbon brush sent is as per the order. There are multiple Jubilee models taking different brushes.

I replied, I think what you mean is that there are multiple Electrolux vacuums with the model number 1521. For some reason Electrolux gave that number to the Diamond Jubilee, Marquise and Grand Marquise. But there aren't multiple models of the Diamond Jubilee that I can see. So when I saw someone ask if this part will fit on a Diamond Jubilee 1521 motor and yes was the answer, I naturally thought I was getting the right part.

Steve

 

[blknblu]

I found some old pics.
These are from my two Diamond Jubilee's whuch have two different motors.
I believe what you have in your machine is the motor on the left.
The one on the right is the Electro Motor style with the plastic cap.

 

[chafer444]

I believe you're right, it is the motor on the left. The things that hold the brushes in place look like the one I have. It also has the number 6780 on it. Do you know the name of that motor or it's model number?

Steve