Electrolux Central Vac.

[caligula]

Hi guys I'm thinking of getting an Electrolux central vacuum system in the next few months. And yes, I have a qualified person to install it for me. I need ideas, and suggestions. The only thing etched in stone is that it be Electrolux.

Please advise.

 

[ctvacman]

Depending on how much you want to spend I have a basically new lux deluxe accessory kit for sale. I'm looking to get 325 for it

 

[vacuumlad1650]

Get an Aerus. better quality than Modern Lux

 

[caligula]

I can go there, Aerus is still basically Electrolux.

Heres the reason I'm asking.

Today my housemate suggested he get a central vac. I jumped at it, and said "great as long as it's Electrolux!" As to price, he hates to spend money, so something good but low in price. I may know vintage vacuum cleaners, and the history of the central vac, but aside from the Electrolux model I had in 1994, don't have a clue with the new ones. I'll welcome all suggestions.

 

[ralph123]

If I were looking at a Central Vac, I would at least consider the Husky Storm vacuum (made in Canada), that is on sale at costco.com.



$699.99 After $100 OFF

Husky Storm Central Vacuum System with Electric Power Head Kit
Husky Storm Central Vacuum System with Electric Power Head Kit
Features: For Homes up to 10,000 sq ft, Installation Required, High Efficiency Filter Can Be Used With or Without Bag, Ultra Quiet, Includes Accessory Kit

http://www.costco.com/Husky-Storm-C...lectric-Power-Head-Kit.product.100161400.html

 

[n0oxy]

central vacuum

First, is there a particular reason you are determined to have an electrolux model? Do these offer a particular feature that you can't find on other brands? From what I've seen, the Electrolux models tend to be a bit expensive. The beam central vacuums are made by Electrolux so you might consider those as well. One of my biggest problems with these is that they're bagless. Of course, this is a personal preference, but the filter in these units does not clean itself as well as they claim. I have a beam unit, and was able to convert it to use bags, it's far better that way. Honestly if you want the best central vacuum unit, I would consider something from drainvac, purvac, or perhaps vacumaid. The aspria models are also very good.

 

[tolivac]

Central vacuum.i would go with an MD Modern Day unit. They are made in the US an can be used with a closed bag or open one.I know the dealer here and they are excellent quality machines . The Lux unit is pain to empty and you have to clean or wash its foam filter by hand. And it still lets fines get into the motor blowing it out. The MD dealer has replaced a few Lux units because of this. The blown Lux units linger in the trade in pile.A bagged central unit is much better!

 

[ctvacman]

I love my MD central vac and you can use Electrolux tools with it if you wish. Like I said I'm selling my 1999 Genuine Electrolux kit for 325. It was NEW OLD STOCK I bought a year ago and i haven't really used it

 

[caligula]

Hi n0oxy:

Yes, my favorite brand is Electrolux. Also I've had 2. I should explaine. In 1993 I had my first central vac istalled, it was the second of the series, and I loved it. However, I sold the house in 95, and moved cross country, I bought the same one for the new house and it served me well for many years. My idea is stay with what I trust.

Now, as to my housemate, he'll want the basics, a no frills machine, and since I'm the one using it, I want my favorite brand.

Keep in mind however, for him it's only the thinking stage, and I've been asked to do the research. So right now I'm turning to the experts in modern vacuum cleaners. Personally I'm just as happy with my Electrolux model LX, and Kirby Classic III.

 

[vacman1961]

Alex, as you know I bleed Electrolux and I have been in the floor care business since 1977, in my house I have a VacuFlo model 766 power unit and an new Aerus Electrolux Power Nozzle and attachment set, now you don't have to go with a model 766, I did because I like power, you can go with a model 566, it is more than adequate. The advantage to a VacuFlo over an Aerus Electrolux unit is that there is no bags and filters in the VacuFlo, so you maintain 100% suction all the time, with the Aerus power unit, it has a foam filter in it and as it clogs, the suction decreases. Chose your power unit wisely, it is the heart of the system. Good Luck with your decision.

Charlie

 

[blknblu]

Best way - buy the MD central vac and put an Electrolux sticker on it.


Seriously, my local CL has many Electrolux central vac pulls. (wonder why).


I have a Canadian made DrainVac myself, with a large Lamb Ametek motor and plastic container (dry vac only).


It was installed almost 10 years ago when the house was built.


 


About that Electrolux:


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[this post was last edited: 12/13/2015-22:50]

 

[tolivac]

I have an Aerus Lux central unit that is bagless-has a blown motor-dust in it.The machine was given to me from the MD dealers trade in pile.Sometime will get a new motor for it.The foam filter eventually leaks dust into the motor.

 

[sitop]

Nutone

I have had three different central vacs in three different houses. I love my Electrolux, BUT, it was bagless. Horrible. Had to wash out the foam filter every time or the suction got weak. My first was a Sears, which was bagless but never lost suction with the cyclone. I adapted my Electrolux attachments and a power nozzle to it. My last was a Nutone, 2 motor, bagged. The power nozzle was a rebadged Sears. LOVED it! The house was over 3,000 sq ft and 4 shedding dogs and it never lost suction until I forgot to check the bag! Since it was bagged it also made a great vault. Who would look in the vacuum container for anything?

 

[n0oxy]

vacuflo

I would avoid those vacuflo units unless you get a bagged model. With these cyclonic vacuums that have no filter, you have dust actually going through the motor in order to be vented outside. That's motor failure waiting to happen. Also, you have to clean the filter screen that is above the dirt container which can be a real mess. Bagged units are better by far, toss the bag and install a new one and you're done, and no dirt going through the motor.

 

[tolivac]

Aerus Lux central vac unit--the one I have that came from a trade in pile--was shocked to find the machine was built in-----CHINA!!!!Look on your Lux bagless central units-the motor dome and see if yours was built there.Mine has a blown motor.I currently have a new MD "Silentmaster" bagged unit.The bag inside the tank resembles a giant open top TriStar bag.This one can hold up to 12Gal of debris.Currently use it with my Kirby Avalir as a "Monster Vac" works well! and fun to look inside to see what was picked up.I also have a powerwand that was made for MD vacuums that use the Sebo ET-1 powernozzle-like on their canisters.Works GREAT on the MD machine!!!Use it for areas where Kirby won't fit.The MD machines are proudly built by a family company in Bakersfeild,Calif.Mike showed me the inner workings of these and they are the best as far is it goes to me.And they use US made Lamb-Ametek motors.The Silentmaster uses a two stage full bypass motor.No worry of picked up grunk getting into the motor.That is what killed the Lux bagless machine I have.Sometime may replace its motor.Wish these could be converted to bagged.I have dealt with bagless central units in the past and they are HORRIBLE-dumping many gallons of fine home dirt and dust-not fun-you have to take a shower afterwards!

 

[tolivac]

I also have two NuTone bagged central machines-one has twin full bypass 6A 120V motors.The other has a 12.5A full bypass motor.Came from the MD dealer trade in pile.These NuTones work well!ne uses a 8gal heavy Filtrete bag.The other-dual motor-has a thick paper bag-6Gal.

 

[n0oxy]

bagged and bagless units

Many central vacuums can be used as a bagged or bagless unit. The beam models, and some Electrolux models, although they come as bagless units can be converted to use bags quite easily. I did that with my beam 275c unit, and it's so much better. Now nothing goes in to the bucket because the bag catches everything, and the so called self cleaning filter is gone because it's not needed. the MD models use an open style bag which increases the air flow, you can convert these to use closed bags as well, but you would probably lose some performance this way.

 

[tolivac]

On the MD units if you went to the closed bag you would lose some capacity and you can't use the "utility" inlet on the central machine.The filtering and performance would still be about the same.You would put the closed bag into the cloth one that used to be used with the open bags.The closed bag was recommended for folks with allergies.The Areus Lux machine I have can't be converted to bagged.Its sort of ironic since Lux promotes their bagged canisters over bagless machines.

 

[superiorvac]

Cyclovac

I'm not sure if they're available in the states, but the Cyclovac is a great choice. I've seen them private labeled as a Riccar in the states. Check them out...bag or filter types, quiet machines, metal construction. I'm sorry to say your Aerus is an old school, old technology machine. There is definitely better out there for the money. Foam doesn't filter well, it only clogs. They are loud, and the powernozzle and hose set is something from 1984. Other powerhead kits have light crushproof hoses that optimize airflow. Also check out Lindhaus, Wessell Werk and Sebo powernozzles.

 

[Peggy99]

Convert bagless central vac to use bags

Has anyone in this thread converted a bagless Nutone Cyclonic unit (CV5XX) to use bags?

How did you do it/what parts did you use? What bags did you use?

My unit is in the basement, mounted high, tight against the wall, and emptying the bucket/cleaning the cloth filter is a complete nightmare.
I'd have to wear a hazmat suit with a ventilator to avoid inhaling any dust, and then use a different vacuum to clean most of the basement afterwards.
I need a better way.
Swapping the whole thing out will cost over $1000.

 

[tolivac]

Swapping central vacuum units.The 1000 bucks just may be worth it if you don't want to hassle with several gallons of dirt and dust.My Mom had a NuTone bagless machine andI hated the thing.Don't blame her for not wanting to dump it.I don't know if there are any conversion bag kits for that machine-would suggest you look on the NuTone website.Of course they will probably suggest a new machine.The 1000 or more-would be for the cost of the new central vacuum machine and the labor required to plumb it in.The tech may have to redo the plumbing at the unit so it will fit properly.The wiring wouldn't be as much of a problem.The MD dealer I deal with has replaced many bagless units with bagged MD units.The customer is more satisfied with the bagged machine.You can "empty" it in your Sunday best and not get dusty!Esp with a closed bag.Is the NuTone unit you have old-like over 10 yrs old--Swapping it with a bagged unit may be your best buy!And bagged units tend to last longer-the bags filter out the dirt better so less gets into the machines motor.Dust,like in any vacuum will kill the motor in time.

 

[n0oxy]

replacing central vacuum

The cost should mainly be for the power unit, the pipe work should not have to be redone, perhaps just changed a bit at the end where it connects to the power unit. I would say it's worth it, bagged units really are much cleaner, I would not take a bagless unit if someone offered it to me for free.

 

[sanitaire]

I have the vacuflo full cyclonic. no filters or bags. I emty the tank when it's half full and clean the screen inside. and it's ready too go again. there is no dust from the catch tank that goes into the motor. great for the house and gargae. my carpet is low pile so I use the suction powred turbo cat spinning brush floor tool.

 

[tolivac]

In replacing units-sometimes a minor change in plumbing may be required.That is a good reason why the installing dealer will encourage the customer to pick a machine that matches the old plumbing as close as possible. Fortunately most machines are pretty close in this regard.I am in full agreement with the MD dealer here-the bagged units are best-in terms of performance,sanitation,and lifetime.My "free" bagless Lux unit has a blown motor.When you try to start it-the motor growels and barely turns-but enough to emit a puff of dust from the motor dome.Then the motor breaker trips.Future project-but in no hurry to do it.Replacement motor for Lux units can cost from $150-+200.There needs to be another safety type filter in these to protect the motor from dust that gets by the foam filter.There is an interlock switch to prevent the motor from starting unless that filter is locked in place in the motor dome.

 

[caligula]

Got a central vac.

While I was in Indiana my housemate got a central vac. It's a Vacuflo 566Q. He got it on March 21 and while I only used it for a few minutes to give it a test drive I love it. Okay, so it's not an Electrolux, but I can live with that. As I just got home yesterday I plan to do a whole house cleaning tomorrow to try it out. As we have hardwoods and area rugs this should serve us very well.

 

[luxflairguy]

I'll tell you this! After more than 20 years selling and servicing central vacuums and having used everything on the market, you've got the right machine! Others can and will champion their favorite brands, but I can say that the machine that is traded in more than any other is Electrolux and others that have a washable foam filter. Removing the dirt caked filter and the mess of washing it and rinsing enough times to remove all the embedded dirt is a chore and all too often people put the filter back in before it's dry making a yucky mess! Like Owen Perkins, I believe in a "true cyclonic" machine and like both VacuMaid and Vacuflo. I run a VacuMaid in my own home and always have. Attachments are all interchangeable. The Vacuflo is also fun because it has a transparent dirt bin so you can see all that you've vacuumed up! The more you use it, the more you'll appreciate it! Greg

 

[caligula]

Thank Greg:

When my housemate decided to get a central vac I posted the question here, and opted to hold off till I heard from the experts (See above posts.) While I had an Electrolux central vac 20 years ago and was urging him to go 'Electrolux' he bought a Vacuflo and had it instaled while I was away tending to family matters. I used it this morning and love it. It's so easy, great suction, and made the whole house cleaning a breeze. Looks like my Electrolux model LX will become part of the display wall.

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


 


I've lived with central vacs.  Bagged Nutone mainly.


 


I've seen bad installs.  My Aunt had a Nutone in her 1972 ranch house.  It had 3 measly inputs. You couldn't even reach some parts of the house.  There was nothing in the garage or basement.  There was no electric brush.  It was LOUD.


 


My parents have Nutone.  Again, not enough inputs, long hose.  They haven't used it in 10 years.  It's too much hassle.


 


The only way I would even consider one is:


 


1. if inlets were installed in EVERY room OR not further apart than 25' Everywhere in the house, basement, garage, patio/deck, and by front door, and one in attic.   This way you only need a hose that is 15' long.  After all,  one of the negatives of a central vac is the ridiculous 30', 35' or even 50' hose which tends to get stepped on, not to mention having to look at it, and haul it around.  Plus the damage it can do to wood work.


 


2. The power unit would be installed in a heavily sound insulated cabinet or closet.  We're talking 12" of sound deadening material.  I absolutely hate the annoying noise pollution,.... of ANY vacuum, but central vacs are the worst.


 


3. It would need to be a 2 piece motor and cyclonic collection unit.  And there should be a bag After the cyclone unit.  The motor unit being in the sound insulated closet/cabinet and the collection unit being outside, or in a cabinet on the outside of the house.  When it comes time to empty, I don't want any dust in the house.


 


4. The hose would have to be crush proof and electric, and I should be able to use any of my Eureka, Electrolux, Hoover, or Kenmore PNs.


 


5. There would need to be this new Holster vac fitting in the kitchen and workshop, possibly even in the garage.


 


Good thing, installing the tubing network is rather easy.  Just cut and glue.  It doesn't need to be slanted in any direction like plumbing lines. 


Consider also, with a shorter hose, you will have better suction.  After all the pipes in the wall are a smooth walled 1 1/2 to 1 3/4".  The hose is typically a corrugated 1 1/4" to 1 1/2".


 


 


 


 

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


 


While it's true, bagged units are easier to empty, they certainly are not the best for filtering.  


 


I've noticed, on units that have a wall mounted exterior vent, that the area around that vent is dusty.  This is for vacs with bags. It shows up better on darker color houses.  It shows that those cheap paper bags are as inferior in a central vac as they are in a typical vac.