Electrolux 500 series

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Hi Al:

Thanks for posting that. I didnt realize that the 666 was the mid range machine. I've seen a picture of the 702 before and wondered where it fit in. Now I know. Any idea what year that was. The catalogue pages I have have no clues as to year.

Doug
 
Goblin brochure

I have it recorded as 1977.

The 602 had been around for a long time, at least 10 years - indeed I was surprised that they were still listing it in 1977. The body of the machine is all plastic, unusual at the time, even the most basic Goblins were made of metal.

Here is the rest of the brochure - front cover. The suction control on top of teh cleaner is an air release valve

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A real glamour shot

It looks like they were targeting the softbag housemaid at a specific market :)

Well fair play to Goblin on this one - for years and years their uprights were very clearly based on the Hoover Junior, as close as they could be, but this was their own, new design

And, although not particularly well rated at the time its not a bad cleaner at all

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Doug, thank you for scanning those, I appreciate what a faff that can be, seeing period literature is always a treat!

Alistair, I literally LOL'd at the GL777 page, I could do with a pair of baffies like those, with a quilted nylon housecoat to match, hehehe!

I've always looked at Goblin vacuums as being a bit basic and not terribly well thought out compared to Hoover or Electrolux, or even their Teasmades, with details like the lack of upholstery nozzles or dusting brushes on many of the cylinders, and the lack of standard paper bag fittings on the 102 etc letting them down. Having said that, I have never been properly acquainted with a Goblin (no comments please...)

Having said that, I've always thought the Housemaids were quite striking cleaners, those along with the HP Swallow made Hoover's uprights look terribly old fashioned. Looking at the GL888 in particular, it looks like Hoover totally ripped off the dust collection arrangement on the Turbopower/Turbomaster Freedom Permabag, 20 years after the Goblin design!
 
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Umm I've just had to rewrite this post out twice as the 1st one vanished lol...

There are quiet a few vacs on the that I love.
Thanks for posting the catalogue pics. Does any one have any more classic UK catalogue pages from the same kind of era??

James:o)
 
Electrolux Z303

Doug....

I have a nice example that Im going to be listing on Ebay in the next few weeks- Im downsizing somewhat and have decided to concentrate on Hoover machines. Thats going to be followed by a boxed Automatic Z330, Z55 and possibly a nice Z345 :).

Seamus
 
It was very interesting seeing all those advertisements, and to see how expensive my 502S was when she was new! When you have a vintage cleaner you forget that it must have been very high tech in its day, and thus, cost a lot.

And going back to my question I asked a couple of days ago, I think my 502S did originally come with a plastic hose, as in that advert, it looks like the tool set had a plastic hose included, not woven ?
 
Price

Jamie

You need to remember that the scans above are from Home Shopping Catalagoues ("Club Books") and that the prices quoted there were ALWAYS much higher than you would have paid in the shops - the payment plans are not interest free, the just quite a higher price to begin with to cover interest. Argos and Which are the only reliable written media for prices.

Al
 
Yes I know about the higher prices for catalogues, but it st

No nowhere near a rough idea.

Which listed best prices for the Lux 502 at being around £49 with free tools thrown in at the cow shed retailers and yet above in the catalogue its about 40% more expensive.

Even the Hoover Junior in Trident was around £39 yet the Goblin which was a cheaper brand is advertised at £39 in the catalogue.

The Lux 610 Was quite expensive here for £114 as Argos retailed the Twin Turbo around £79 in the late 80s. The Lux 610 was about £100 and the 612 about £115.


Catalogues were very expensive, a basic 800 spin hotpoint washer cost around £250 best prices in the likes of Currys yet these catalogues it was around £320. A low earners weeks wage was around £150 so the difference of £70 made a huge difference.
 
Sorry I re read and realised my maths error. The lux 520 was about 80% more expensive.

Bright House do pretty much the same these days. Currys have a £220 Beko cash price (dont see that term used much these days) where total repayable at BrightHouse the same machine comes out at over £500 paying £4 a week for 3 or so years however it works out. The catalogues used this practise back in the day.
 
Sorry about that last message - new to the forum! What an amazing and interesting thread this is. If i can add a few points...

The wattage of the 502 was 425, the 504 was 450. The replacement cleaners for these were models 506 and 502s, with wattages of 550 and 500 respectively. The 506 was out a little bit before the 502s. Newer versions of the 502 had the long plastic strip down the front but I have no idea why they didn't all have this. When the 550 was launched, the 506 became a 560, with a 560 watt motor. It was suggested here that a 505 was avaliable in UK, but I have never seen it. All I have seen is a picture of such a machine, same as the 504, but made for another country. The mustard coloured hose and dusting brush in the pictures in this thread were sold here in the UK but only on the earliest machines, where a deluxe tool kit was made for the 504. As no other Electrolux cleaner had these colours, I suppose it was easier and cheaper to use brown or white, as indeed they later did. Not forgetting that not all cleaners had the tools supplied with the cleaner, therefore it is quite common to see a cleaner with what you might call the wrong tools...tools which were earlier or later than the cleaner they are seen with, depending on when they were bought and what kits the shop had it stock at that time.

According to Electrolux, the 506 was originaly supplied with a woven hose and it would have been the last to have this. The 502s had the most basic of all hoses, with no handgripping or suction control. It used a thin white concetina hose, thinner than on cylinders, but was still metal when it came to tubes. This was the first tool kit to dispence with a floor tool. Later on the tool kits changed to white plastic, when the 550 and 550 came to be. These kits were used on the 550 and the 560 until there was a switch to brown, round about the time that the 502s was finally taken out of production. Again I believe the colour change of the tools to be down to ease, as some of the Electricity Board cylinder models were using the same brown tool kits whereas no other had white.

The 500 series was subject to countless minor tweeks over the years, with additional mouldings being added to the design to improve strength on the weak points. The very last 502S, 550 and 560 were the most solid of all as they contained all the modifications which Electrolux had added since the start of the 1970s.
 
Thanks again

Benny for your insight. There are so many variations in all these machines (especially the long running series) that it is difficult to keep up with them all. The knowledge you bring to the table is very welcome

Al
 
Thank you, you are most welcome. I like the 500 range very much as I was able to rebuild them and sell as reconditioned. Add a 6 month guarentee and a free drive belt, and I was home and dry. No one expected them to last long for what they paid (about £60 in the early 1990s as a guide price) and yet I rarely got any sent back for repair in the 6 months. Very good cleaner and one which could be put back to almost new. Though it was financially sound to do so back then. It wouldn't be so now.
 
Wow.....that white carpet nozzle shown with the Goblin canister looks almost identical to the classic Eureka carpet nozzle of the 1950's and 1960's! The only difference seems to be that it has an attached neck like the very first ones did on the Golden Crown Roto-Matic.

Am I seeing things? Did Eureka supply attachments to Goblin?
 
Eureka?

Brian

I doubt it very much, as by this time Goblin was operating towards the bottom end of the market, so cost woudl have been all.

The only "genuine" Eureka tools i have ever seen here was on the Parnall Vibrabeat later 10/10, or the even rarer Singer variants around the early 1960s all of which were an exact copies of the Eureka. Co-incidentally later 1960s Singers were manufactured by Goblin, but were direct copies of Goblin cleaners.

Al
 
Electrolux Z500

these where a great vac and ahead of the field for its day, very quiet in action, the brushes & beater bars very effective in removing grit & dirt, and the bonus of clean air suction and plug in tools etc with the same suction level.

I always thought that Electrolux (known mainly for cylinders) put a lot of design & aesthetic thought into the first of their upright cleaners, whereas Hoover ( known for uprights) only managed to produce a large clunky first cylinder cleaner!!!

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