seamusuk
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500 Explained
Well a 504 actually- 8.50 into this...
Seamus
Well a 504 actually- 8.50 into this...
Seamus
Electrolux 500 series
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I think the 500 series was a very impressive design, and certainly put other manufacturers to shame! Essentially it took all the best features of the Hoover Dialamatic/Convertible in a cleaner that was lighter, cheaper and easier to use. The hose arrangement and the suction adjuster (operated by a vent) were pure DAM, although the Electrolux cylinder heritage is also evident.
After the DAM/Convertible, Hoover dropped Clean Fan Action in its subsequent uprights, and it didn't make a reappearance until the Turbopower 2 in the 1990s. In the meantime, both Electrolux and Panasonic brought out machines that were very similar to the overall design and appearance of the Hoover, the 610 series and the Jet-Flo respectively. The Hoover design was very ahead of its time, but as the top of the line cleaner it was also expensive (in the UK at least), and didn't seem to sell well at all - they're all quite rare (for Hoovers!) in the UK now, especially the post 1975 versions. Shame they let other manufacturers develop the design instead of refining it themselves.
After the DAM/Convertible, Hoover dropped Clean Fan Action in its subsequent uprights, and it didn't make a reappearance until the Turbopower 2 in the 1990s. In the meantime, both Electrolux and Panasonic brought out machines that were very similar to the overall design and appearance of the Hoover, the 610 series and the Jet-Flo respectively. The Hoover design was very ahead of its time, but as the top of the line cleaner it was also expensive (in the UK at least), and didn't seem to sell well at all - they're all quite rare (for Hoovers!) in the UK now, especially the post 1975 versions. Shame they let other manufacturers develop the design instead of refining it themselves.
eurekaprince
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Thank you for that wondeful video, Seamus....it does indeed show a cutaway of the air flow channels in this Electrolux upright.
The only part of the design that still remains a mystery to me is: If the handle can rotate 90 degrees from "stored" position to "under bed" position, how do the air channels allow the movement of air to and from the motor? The "cutaway" demonstrator vac does not clearly answer this question. I would imagine that this needed to be designed very well so that over the years of use, the constantly-rotating "neck" of the vacuum handle would not leak air as the air made its way to and from the motor.
The only part of the design that still remains a mystery to me is: If the handle can rotate 90 degrees from "stored" position to "under bed" position, how do the air channels allow the movement of air to and from the motor? The "cutaway" demonstrator vac does not clearly answer this question. I would imagine that this needed to be designed very well so that over the years of use, the constantly-rotating "neck" of the vacuum handle would not leak air as the air made its way to and from the motor.
"The only part of the design that still remains a mystery to me is: If the handle can rotate 90 degrees from "stored" position to "under bed" position, how do the air channels allow the movement of air to and from the motor? The "cutaway" demonstrator vac does not clearly answer this question. I would imagine that this needed to be designed very well so that over the years of use, the constantly-rotating "neck" of the vacuum handle would not leak air as the air made its way to and from the motor."
The dirt gets from the head of the machine to the main cleaner via a flexible hose meaning it can go all the way flat without any compromise in suction.
What I have found however, is that after a lot of use that "inner" hose will split, as it did with mine, but a bit of black tape sorts it out!
Much cheaper than paying over the odds for a tiny bit of hose.
The dirt gets from the head of the machine to the main cleaner via a flexible hose meaning it can go all the way flat without any compromise in suction.
What I have found however, is that after a lot of use that "inner" hose will split, as it did with mine, but a bit of black tape sorts it out!
Much cheaper than paying over the odds for a tiny bit of hose.
collector2
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Hi Al:
Quite right - they did sell them originally as Volta then as Dometic in Canada. I have the Dometic U505 which was sold in 1979.
Quite right - they did sell them originally as Volta then as Dometic in Canada. I have the Dometic U505 which was sold in 1979.
eurekaprince
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Ahhhhhhh.......NOW I UNDERSTAND!!!!
Thanks so much for these scans and photos - they explain the mystery to me very clearly.
There must be some very good gaskets around those air "holes" in order to prevent any leakage of air and reduced suction where they join the lower portion to the upper portion. I wonder why they did not just exhaust the air through the top of the motor housing....that would have been simpler solution, methinks.....hmmm....
Thanks so much for these scans and photos - they explain the mystery to me very clearly.
There must be some very good gaskets around those air "holes" in order to prevent any leakage of air and reduced suction where they join the lower portion to the upper portion. I wonder why they did not just exhaust the air through the top of the motor housing....that would have been simpler solution, methinks.....hmmm....
vacbear58
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Dometic and portholes
Doug,
I knew you had one and I was sure Volta was not the name - I just could not remember that it was Dometic.
Jamie, you have not quite answered Brian's question, and indeed nor could I until I recently had to make a (sort of bodged) repair on one of these. Brian you need to pause the video around 9.10 to get a better idea of how this works - there are indeed three air channels in the handle.
If you look at Dougs picture above (or even mine further up) you can see the chrome clip which holds it shut - the whole top is hinged across the rear which will allow it to open through 180 degrees. The bag is vertically mounted with the bag entry at the top. It looks for all the world like an ordinary cannister.
Air is drawn into the bag chamber via the hose from the brushroll through the central channel. This bends through 90 degress at the top of the bag chamber exiting into the bag. Air is drawn out of the bag chamber through the left hand channel, through the motor and out again through the right hand channel - you can see the remains of the exhaust grill at 9.17.
What is not shown in the demo is that at the bottom of each side of the handle are round "portholes" (for want of a better word) which engage with each side of the motor shroud shown in red in the demo. It is these which allow the handle to swivel up and down whilst maintaining suction. The pully for the brushroll belt is just behind the right hand front wheel.
How do I know? I recently got one of these for 99p (Say $1.00) which presumably had been dropped or maybe just misused and part of the porthole moulding on the right was damaged. It superglued the remaining parts together and although a bit wobbly still the cleaner works fine as the left hand port (suction) is still intact.
Hope this makes it a bit clearer
Al
Doug,
I knew you had one and I was sure Volta was not the name - I just could not remember that it was Dometic.
Jamie, you have not quite answered Brian's question, and indeed nor could I until I recently had to make a (sort of bodged) repair on one of these. Brian you need to pause the video around 9.10 to get a better idea of how this works - there are indeed three air channels in the handle.
If you look at Dougs picture above (or even mine further up) you can see the chrome clip which holds it shut - the whole top is hinged across the rear which will allow it to open through 180 degrees. The bag is vertically mounted with the bag entry at the top. It looks for all the world like an ordinary cannister.
Air is drawn into the bag chamber via the hose from the brushroll through the central channel. This bends through 90 degress at the top of the bag chamber exiting into the bag. Air is drawn out of the bag chamber through the left hand channel, through the motor and out again through the right hand channel - you can see the remains of the exhaust grill at 9.17.
What is not shown in the demo is that at the bottom of each side of the handle are round "portholes" (for want of a better word) which engage with each side of the motor shroud shown in red in the demo. It is these which allow the handle to swivel up and down whilst maintaining suction. The pully for the brushroll belt is just behind the right hand front wheel.
How do I know? I recently got one of these for 99p (Say $1.00) which presumably had been dropped or maybe just misused and part of the porthole moulding on the right was damaged. It superglued the remaining parts together and although a bit wobbly still the cleaner works fine as the left hand port (suction) is still intact.
Hope this makes it a bit clearer
Al
vacbear58
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Markus beat me to it!
Well I hope my text made as much sens as his photos and scans
Al
Well I hope my text made as much sens as his photos and scans
Al
eurekaprince
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Many thanks for your answers everyone!!! (Happy New Year from this side of the Atlantic....)
(Happy New Year from this side of the Atlantic....)
I actually have two of these cleaners!
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">One, seen in the video link below, was made by AB Electrolux sometime around 1984 (please correct me if I'm wrong) for the American sewing machine maker Viking and was sold through their exclusive distributors. Electrolux also made a line of canister/tank models for Viking as well, as I recall. I had one in the early days of my collection, in fact: wish I had kept the silly thing!</span>
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">As for my other machine, it's one of the later grey colored models ... a Z1045, to be exact. I'll put a video link to it up in another post.</span>
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">One, seen in the video link below, was made by AB Electrolux sometime around 1984 (please correct me if I'm wrong) for the American sewing machine maker Viking and was sold through their exclusive distributors. Electrolux also made a line of canister/tank models for Viking as well, as I recall. I had one in the early days of my collection, in fact: wish I had kept the silly thing!</span>
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">As for my other machine, it's one of the later grey colored models ... a Z1045, to be exact. I'll put a video link to it up in another post.</span>
Here's the other one
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">My Z1045</span>
<span style="font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva;">My Z1045</span>
vacbear58
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Husqvarna
Hey Bill,
Happy New Year
It was a similar machine to the one shown in the link above that I mentioned repairing above - do you have tools for it as well?
Of course Husqvarna has long been an Electrolux brand and I recall an magazine ad here in the 1970s which actually had the (male) model dressed up as a viking. Although best known for sewing machines, we did have TOL Electrolux refrigeration products and I think ranges (cookers!) under that brand as well.
A good while back I think we had a discussion here about a Lux 345 cannister sold in the USA - I wonder coudl this have been one of the Viking cannisters you mention
Al
Hey Bill,
Happy New Year
It was a similar machine to the one shown in the link above that I mentioned repairing above - do you have tools for it as well?
Of course Husqvarna has long been an Electrolux brand and I recall an magazine ad here in the 1970s which actually had the (male) model dressed up as a viking. Although best known for sewing machines, we did have TOL Electrolux refrigeration products and I think ranges (cookers!) under that brand as well.
A good while back I think we had a discussion here about a Lux 345 cannister sold in the USA - I wonder coudl this have been one of the Viking cannisters you mention
Al
juniorsenior
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I just bought a 502 from Ebay cant wait to reaquaint myself with this as my gran used to have one.
Is this the 502 you won ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-E...785?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item231822cb31
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-E...785?pt=UK_Vacuum_Cleaners&hash=item231822cb31
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