kirbyezee1914
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Does anyone know how to date these. I just got one, and wanted to know. Thanks!
Does anyone know how to date these. I just got one, and wanted to know. Thanks!
Electrolux 1205
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human
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1205 design changes
Here's what I recall from a thread earlier this year. You should be able to roughly determine your unit's year of manufacture by comparing its features to the list below:
1968--the earliest 1205's have a pigtail connector for the power nozzle below the hose port in addition to electrical connections integrated into the hose port. The earliest examples have the lettering for the control panel lithographed onto a metal plate.
1969-1970--No pigtail connector. The only electrical connector for the power nozzle is the one integrated into the hose port. The front panel around the hose port is the same light teal (color matches the side panels) as the 1968 version. Lettering for the control panel is now molded into the plastic bezel. FWIW, this is the version of the 1205 that I have.
1971--The front panel around the hose port is now a darker teal/jade color to match the control panel above it.
1972--textured metal side panels introduced. This will be a feature of all subsequent Electrolux metal canisters.
1974--1205-J (aka the Golden J) introduced with gaudy gold paint scheme, redesigned control panel and handle.
Others may correct me if I'm off a bit. I won't be offended.
Here's what I recall from a thread earlier this year. You should be able to roughly determine your unit's year of manufacture by comparing its features to the list below:
1968--the earliest 1205's have a pigtail connector for the power nozzle below the hose port in addition to electrical connections integrated into the hose port. The earliest examples have the lettering for the control panel lithographed onto a metal plate.
1969-1970--No pigtail connector. The only electrical connector for the power nozzle is the one integrated into the hose port. The front panel around the hose port is the same light teal (color matches the side panels) as the 1968 version. Lettering for the control panel is now molded into the plastic bezel. FWIW, this is the version of the 1205 that I have.
1971--The front panel around the hose port is now a darker teal/jade color to match the control panel above it.
1972--textured metal side panels introduced. This will be a feature of all subsequent Electrolux metal canisters.
1974--1205-J (aka the Golden J) introduced with gaudy gold paint scheme, redesigned control panel and handle.
Others may correct me if I'm off a bit. I won't be offended.
kirbyezee1914
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Do you know how to date the 1401-b's?
Do you know how to date the 1401-b's?
human
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The model 1401 was introduced in 1975 as the "Super J". It is slightly longer than the 1205 to accommodate a more powerful motor. Like the "Golden J"(model 1210) introduced the year before, it has a garish gold paint scheme. The 1401b is better known as the "Olympia One". It's basically the same machine as the Super J except for its chocolate brown paint scheme. The Olympia One ran from 1978-1982. Earlier models were identical to the Super J except for the color, while later ones. had thicker rear wheels and an updated handle design like the Silverado, which succeeded it. Silverado model 1505 (1982-1984) featured a gray paint scheme but was otherwise essentially the same machine as its immediate predecessors.
It is interesting to note that the 1205 is the only one of the metal square canister Electrolux vacuums manufactured between 1968 and 1994 that was known only by its model number. All subsequent models--Golden J, Super J, Olympia, Silverado, Diamond Jubilee, Marquise and Grand Marquise--are better known by their names than their numbers.
Information for this post was gleaned from: http://blog.evacuumstore.com/post/2012/06/22/History-of-All-Electrolux-Vacuum-Cleaner-Models.aspx and http://www.1377731.com/lux/luxlall.html
It is interesting to note that the 1205 is the only one of the metal square canister Electrolux vacuums manufactured between 1968 and 1994 that was known only by its model number. All subsequent models--Golden J, Super J, Olympia, Silverado, Diamond Jubilee, Marquise and Grand Marquise--are better known by their names than their numbers.
Information for this post was gleaned from: http://blog.evacuumstore.com/post/2012/06/22/History-of-All-Electrolux-Vacuum-Cleaner-Models.aspx and http://www.1377731.com/lux/luxlall.html
Good information, Edgar. Here is some additional information and a few corrections:
1) "Golden J" is a nick. The official name in company literature is simply 'Jubilee'. Its model designation was also 1205, but service manuals tacked on a 'J' for reference purposes.
2) The Olympia Ones, according to Tig21er (John), a longtime friendly Aerus (Electrolux) man since the '60s (having his start with his dad in the '50s), debuted in April 1979; which makes sense since it was closer to the 1980 Winter Olympics which was the reason for its namesake. '1978' must have been given in error at one point and after a while myth became fact. It actually had 3 model designations: 1401 (the same as the Super J except for the main body color); 1401-B (with 2 handles, wider wheels, and fins on the bumpers; and 1505 (short-lived; so named because it had the new Model PN-4A power nozzle with the shorter motor housing for getting under low furniture without scratching the hood).
3) There was a short-lived iteration of the Silverado that had the Olympia One horizontal handle (the Super J's was longer) & a finger grip and thinner wheels(?). These cleaners had the S_A serial affixes and were likely only sold for 6 months--one wonders if they'd found some overstock and decided to use it up.
They were brought back awhile after the introduction of the Diamond Jubilee because of motor problems, so its full run was 1982-85. Some have mentioned that the last ones had a different motor, so perhaps they were field testing the new DJ motors and used the Silverado to keep the DJ from getting the 'black eye' if it failed. Jimmy Martin or others would know for sure.
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As for dating the Model 1401-Bs here is a rough timeline for the Olympia One:
Model 1401: 1979 (April-September)
Model 1401-B: 1979-82
Model 1505: 1982
1) "Golden J" is a nick. The official name in company literature is simply 'Jubilee'. Its model designation was also 1205, but service manuals tacked on a 'J' for reference purposes.
2) The Olympia Ones, according to Tig21er (John), a longtime friendly Aerus (Electrolux) man since the '60s (having his start with his dad in the '50s), debuted in April 1979; which makes sense since it was closer to the 1980 Winter Olympics which was the reason for its namesake. '1978' must have been given in error at one point and after a while myth became fact. It actually had 3 model designations: 1401 (the same as the Super J except for the main body color); 1401-B (with 2 handles, wider wheels, and fins on the bumpers; and 1505 (short-lived; so named because it had the new Model PN-4A power nozzle with the shorter motor housing for getting under low furniture without scratching the hood).
3) There was a short-lived iteration of the Silverado that had the Olympia One horizontal handle (the Super J's was longer) & a finger grip and thinner wheels(?). These cleaners had the S_A serial affixes and were likely only sold for 6 months--one wonders if they'd found some overstock and decided to use it up.
They were brought back awhile after the introduction of the Diamond Jubilee because of motor problems, so its full run was 1982-85. Some have mentioned that the last ones had a different motor, so perhaps they were field testing the new DJ motors and used the Silverado to keep the DJ from getting the 'black eye' if it failed. Jimmy Martin or others would know for sure.
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As for dating the Model 1401-Bs here is a rough timeline for the Olympia One:
Model 1401: 1979 (April-September)
Model 1401-B: 1979-82
Model 1505: 1982
human
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Ronni,
Thanks for the clarification.
Thanks for the clarification.
I've never heard of nor seen a Silverado with skinny wheels. Pics for proof? lol.
I've seen Electrolux refurbish various different machines and paint them up to look like a Silverado, but I've never seen a purchased-new Silverado look like you've described. How interesting.
I've seen Electrolux refurbish various different machines and paint them up to look like a Silverado, but I've never seen a purchased-new Silverado look like you've described. How interesting.
floor-a-matic
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The 1205 my parents bought has a textured finish, PN1, non-telescoping metal wand with turquoise sheath & electrified hose with curved metal handle. Could it have been a clearance sale before the PN2 came?
They probably wound up with extra PN-1s and shipped some textured 1205s with the old PN. That's certainly the exception, not the rule though. I'd say 99.9% of textured 1205s came with the PN-2. Until your post, I would have said 100%. I've never heard of it before.
I wonder if your parents could have possibly traded their smooth-body machine for a textured machine for some reason without swapping tools? That seems just as likely.
I wonder if your parents could have possibly traded their smooth-body machine for a textured machine for some reason without swapping tools? That seems just as likely.
