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Is there a way to tell what color this used to be? Early or late? I saw this on ebay and was curious.
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Opposite side
Opposite side
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Opps
Sorry to post this twice. I didn't think the other one worked.
Sorry to post this twice. I didn't think the other one worked.
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It is an early turquoise G
You can tell by the way the front wheels sit so close to the cover -- on the earliest G, the PN port was actually inset into the front cover at the bottom. Electrolux soon found out that this was not a good location - it was too hard to insert the plug without lifting the machine off the floor, and it tended to pop out during use.
So they moved the port to the right side, low down on the body, enclosed in a little metal box. To make room for that box the front wheels were moved back about 2 inches. I frankly don't think that was a good arrangement either as it is also hard to reach.
Really, the best place was the very first one -- as used on the late Model F, the first Electrolux to have a power nozzle: The port was in the chrome trim strip on top of the machine. Why they didn't just leave it there with the new G is a mystery unless they just wanted it to look more integrated into the design of the machine. The fact that they went back to that location with the factory-reconditioned machines bears out, I think, that this is a better location.
Interestingly, with the first 1205s, before the electric hose was introduced, the PN port was back in the front cover again, under the hose. The first 1205 still had the wrap-around cord, then an electric hose came out that had a "pigtail" that connected to the PN port. Then the next electric hose had the wiring fully integrated and the electrical connection was made when you inserted the hose. There was a brief period of time, during the transition from the pigtail hose to the all-electric, that you would get a 1205 with BOTH the pigtail port AND the electric snap-in connector! Once they fully went to the all-electric hose, a PN port was redundant and done away with.
While I love the appearance and beauty of woven hoses, to me the later Electrolux woven hoses, even the non-electric versions, are too stiff. The older vinyl hoses for the AE, F, G, etc. were much more pliable and flexible. And the earlier cloth hoses even more so. Which, alas, is why they wore out faster. The newer ones had much thicker rubber inner layers, making them more durable but also stiffer.
I actually like the later vinyl Electrolux hoses the best, in terms of practical use. I have recently been the recipient of one of these beautiful factory-rebuilt Gs thanks to a 'conspiracy' between two dear members - pix to follow soon. It came with a factory-replacement (non electric) woven hose that, again, is beautiful, but I am going to find a newer vinyl electric hose for actual use.
I think these reconditioned Gs, while not as "period" looking, are quite beautiful. The big problem with them is that since the paint was just spray-painted and not baked, and, worse, was just glopped on over the original finish instead of stripping the old paint off, the new paint scratches and flakes off very easily. Most used reconditioned machines you find look like hell with significant paint loss. You really have to treat these machines very gently to preserve their appearance.
Another thing I don't like about Electrolux electric hoses in general is that they do not swivel at the machine end. This makes it a lot harder to move the hose about when you're cleaning. From the very first Electrolux, even the ancient Model V, the hose always swiveled on both ends. It was not until the Model G that this was ended.
Actually, the G (and Model L) hoses DID swivel freely when the power nozzle plug was disconnected. However, if the swiveling was allowed when the plug was inserted, the cord would tend to wrap around the hose and get tangled up, causing the plug to pop out.
So Electrolux came up with a little plastic collar that you would snap onto the machine-end coupler. The collar had two little feet that locked into place on the front of the machine, stopping the hose from swiveling. I never liked using that collar. If you are careful when vacuuming with a G or L, and watch what you are doing, you won't have that problem with the power nozzle cord. But I suppose too many people were NOT careful when they vacuumed, so the collar was introduced.
I don't understand why someone couldn't come up with an electric hose that DID swivel on both ends. It would take some engineering, but certainly wouldn't be an impossible task! DO any modern vacuum cleaners with electric hoses that swivel at both ends? I haven't seen any, but, then, I don't spend a lot of time playing with modern machines!
You can tell by the way the front wheels sit so close to the cover -- on the earliest G, the PN port was actually inset into the front cover at the bottom. Electrolux soon found out that this was not a good location - it was too hard to insert the plug without lifting the machine off the floor, and it tended to pop out during use.
So they moved the port to the right side, low down on the body, enclosed in a little metal box. To make room for that box the front wheels were moved back about 2 inches. I frankly don't think that was a good arrangement either as it is also hard to reach.
Really, the best place was the very first one -- as used on the late Model F, the first Electrolux to have a power nozzle: The port was in the chrome trim strip on top of the machine. Why they didn't just leave it there with the new G is a mystery unless they just wanted it to look more integrated into the design of the machine. The fact that they went back to that location with the factory-reconditioned machines bears out, I think, that this is a better location.
Interestingly, with the first 1205s, before the electric hose was introduced, the PN port was back in the front cover again, under the hose. The first 1205 still had the wrap-around cord, then an electric hose came out that had a "pigtail" that connected to the PN port. Then the next electric hose had the wiring fully integrated and the electrical connection was made when you inserted the hose. There was a brief period of time, during the transition from the pigtail hose to the all-electric, that you would get a 1205 with BOTH the pigtail port AND the electric snap-in connector! Once they fully went to the all-electric hose, a PN port was redundant and done away with.
While I love the appearance and beauty of woven hoses, to me the later Electrolux woven hoses, even the non-electric versions, are too stiff. The older vinyl hoses for the AE, F, G, etc. were much more pliable and flexible. And the earlier cloth hoses even more so. Which, alas, is why they wore out faster. The newer ones had much thicker rubber inner layers, making them more durable but also stiffer.
I actually like the later vinyl Electrolux hoses the best, in terms of practical use. I have recently been the recipient of one of these beautiful factory-rebuilt Gs thanks to a 'conspiracy' between two dear members - pix to follow soon. It came with a factory-replacement (non electric) woven hose that, again, is beautiful, but I am going to find a newer vinyl electric hose for actual use.
I think these reconditioned Gs, while not as "period" looking, are quite beautiful. The big problem with them is that since the paint was just spray-painted and not baked, and, worse, was just glopped on over the original finish instead of stripping the old paint off, the new paint scratches and flakes off very easily. Most used reconditioned machines you find look like hell with significant paint loss. You really have to treat these machines very gently to preserve their appearance.
Another thing I don't like about Electrolux electric hoses in general is that they do not swivel at the machine end. This makes it a lot harder to move the hose about when you're cleaning. From the very first Electrolux, even the ancient Model V, the hose always swiveled on both ends. It was not until the Model G that this was ended.
Actually, the G (and Model L) hoses DID swivel freely when the power nozzle plug was disconnected. However, if the swiveling was allowed when the plug was inserted, the cord would tend to wrap around the hose and get tangled up, causing the plug to pop out.
So Electrolux came up with a little plastic collar that you would snap onto the machine-end coupler. The collar had two little feet that locked into place on the front of the machine, stopping the hose from swiveling. I never liked using that collar. If you are careful when vacuuming with a G or L, and watch what you are doing, you won't have that problem with the power nozzle cord. But I suppose too many people were NOT careful when they vacuumed, so the collar was introduced.
I don't understand why someone couldn't come up with an electric hose that DID swivel on both ends. It would take some engineering, but certainly wouldn't be an impossible task! DO any modern vacuum cleaners with electric hoses that swivel at both ends? I haven't seen any, but, then, I don't spend a lot of time playing with modern machines!
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Okay, here come a bunch of photos
of my beautiful "New" Model G, given to me by Fred Nelson and Charlie Watrous. (Unlike certain gift-givers, I am confident that this gift does not come with strings attached...)
(Note - the wands, dusting brush and floor tool did not come with the set. I already had them, salvaged from a redundant Silverado. Wish I had better aluminum wands but none of mine are in really mint condition. Note that I changed out the 'stock' - for this model - plastic swivel connector with an older steel one. I don't like the cheepie plastic one.)
of my beautiful "New" Model G, given to me by Fred Nelson and Charlie Watrous. (Unlike certain gift-givers, I am confident that this gift does not come with strings attached...)
(Note - the wands, dusting brush and floor tool did not come with the set. I already had them, salvaged from a redundant Silverado. Wish I had better aluminum wands but none of mine are in really mint condition. Note that I changed out the 'stock' - for this model - plastic swivel connector with an older steel one. I don't like the cheepie plastic one.)
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All-new matching gray trim -- bumpers, ejector knob, switch, cord, front-cover latch and handle -- was installed on these rebuilt machines. Good job Electrolux kept the old Model G molds, eh!
All-new matching gray trim -- bumpers, ejector knob, switch, cord, front-cover latch and handle -- was installed on these rebuilt machines. Good job Electrolux kept the old Model G molds, eh!
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Even a new rear blow louvre! btw in the above photo you can see the cut-out in the front cover where the PN switch was originally located.
Even a new rear blow louvre! btw in the above photo you can see the cut-out in the front cover where the PN switch was originally located.
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New handle and switch! (Actually, this unit came with a white switch for some reason - the other gray rebuilt Gs I have seen had a matching gray switch. This one, nearly but not quite matching, was salvaged from a redundant Model F.
New handle and switch! (Actually, this unit came with a white switch for some reason - the other gray rebuilt Gs I have seen had a matching gray switch. This one, nearly but not quite matching, was salvaged from a redundant Model F.
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The new location of the power nozzle port. One problem I have found with this location is that you are obliged to unplug the PN cable before opening the front cover. Whereas when the plug was at the bottom, either on the side or the front, the cover would open without the cord having to be disconnected.
The new location of the power nozzle port. One problem I have found with this location is that you are obliged to unplug the PN cable before opening the front cover. Whereas when the plug was at the bottom, either on the side or the front, the cover would open without the cord having to be disconnected.
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Ready for action! Isn't that a purrrrrty hose!
Ready for action! Isn't that a purrrrrty hose!
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New vinyl "pigtail" hose, also showing the locking plastic collar.
New vinyl "pigtail" hose, also showing the locking plastic collar.
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Woven hose, without plastic collar, attached to the suction end
Woven hose, without plastic collar, attached to the suction end
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Woven hose attached to suction end, with locking plastic collar in place.
Woven hose attached to suction end, with locking plastic collar in place.
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Pigtail hose attached to suction end, with pigtail lead plugged in and with locking plastic collar in place.
Pigtail hose attached to suction end, with pigtail lead plugged in and with locking plastic collar in place.
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Machine displayed with new vinyl hose. btw I got this hose at a thrift shop for $1.91....... "SUCH a deal!!"
Machine displayed with new vinyl hose. btw I got this hose at a thrift shop for $1.91....... "SUCH a deal!!"
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With vinyl hose, ready to go! As I said, I love the look of the woven hose but prefer the flexibility of the coiled hose. You can see even in the photos how much stiffer the woven hose is.
With vinyl hose, ready to go! As I said, I love the look of the woven hose but prefer the flexibility of the coiled hose. You can see even in the photos how much stiffer the woven hose is.
Thanks for all those pics Charles, the vacuum looks great. I'm more of an upright fan myself so I don't utilize my canisters all that often but I did haul out my Elux Z89 yesterday in order to dust off the tops of the partition walls between the livingroom and kitchen. I'd kind of forgotten how hushed the machine was and it didn't even elicit "the look" from that other one who lives with me whenever I start vacuuming LOL.
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The Z89
is a FABULOUS Electrolux! It's even quieter - measurably - than the G, thanks to the rear filter, AND it's also more powerful - measurably - than the G! It's older sister, the Z88 in maroon, actually won a "most powerful canister" ribbon at one of the VCCC meetings a few years back - owned by the lamentedly absent John Young, one of the "re-founding" members of the club from the early 1990s.
Here are a few photos of my Z89. Obviously, these are fairly old photos of me -- I'm a good bit slimmer and prettier with my bald head now! hahaha
is a FABULOUS Electrolux! It's even quieter - measurably - than the G, thanks to the rear filter, AND it's also more powerful - measurably - than the G! It's older sister, the Z88 in maroon, actually won a "most powerful canister" ribbon at one of the VCCC meetings a few years back - owned by the lamentedly absent John Young, one of the "re-founding" members of the club from the early 1990s.
Here are a few photos of my Z89. Obviously, these are fairly old photos of me -- I'm a good bit slimmer and prettier with my bald head now! hahaha
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Z89
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