Dyson with a difference.....

[matt8808]

My Kirby Sentria2 is my main vac, however I have two rather messy cats and sometimes recently when finishing a long shift at work I really can't be bothered vacuuming up whatever mischeif they've been upto... So I figured I'd buy a cheap upright vac (less than £100) for quick clean ups when I can't be bothered / don't have time.

So I visited the shops and nothing tickled my fancy... Then I realised I had a gift card for Currys with a few hundred on it at home.

Que the cheapest upright Dyson I could buy. DC25 multi-floor.
Didn't want to pay newer model prices and in my opinion they all perform about the same - just like all the Kirby G platform machines perform about the same.

BUT... CAN ANYBODY SPOT THE CHANGE THEY'VE MADE?????

Other than colours and the plug... Seems a bit of a strange change to make this late in the production run. Maybe they're hoping it will help with reliability?

Any yes I know it needs emptying... Believe it or not I'd had it less than 24 hours when I took these pics LOL

 

[vintagerepairer]

No I can't see it.

 

[matt8808]

Then shame on you!! I spotted it as soon as it came out the box... stands out a mile!

 

[dys0nb0y]

Please tell me what's the difference I really can't tell. the new models are so much better at cleaning the radio root cyclone technology is so much more efficient

 

[vintagerepairer]

stands out a mile!

If this were in fact true, then two of us would have seen it also.

 

[matt8808]

I've had a DC41 Animal and DC39 Animal and think they all perfom about the same... if nobody spots the difference in a day or two I'll point it out

 

[vintagerepairer]

All I can see is that the bottom of the internal pole looks like it is plastic. Don't spend too long waiting to tell us though, as I am on borrowed time and others liable to lose interest.

 

[matt8808]

I can't believe you cant see it.... Maybe the pics are from too much of a distance...

Here's a better shot of the change

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

I'm struggling here...

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well the tank also looks smaller and it says "1" (month, I presume) so does it have a DC24 tank?

 

[oliveoiltinfoil]

OH THE HOSE ! That goes from the container to the head??

 

[parwaz786]

That looks the same in design compared to my old DC25 Animal from 2011, but the stair tool doesn't have velour strips?

 

[matt8808]

Its the filter wash interval.

They've changed it to every ONE month for the pre motor filter. The exhaust filter still says every three months and the instruction manual says every three months for both filters.

Can't figure out why they'd change it so late on.

Maybe they ran out of three month stickers so stuck a one month sticker on instead?

 

[parwaz786]

OMG monthly filter washes!!! YES!!!

 

[parwaz786]

Why doesn't the stair tool have velour strips on it?

 

[matt8808]

The tank is the same size it has always been... no structual changes at all and the stair tool does have the strips on you just cant see them in the pics

 

[turbo500]

Can't figure out why they'd change it so late on

The DC24 was always a 1 month filter wash sticker, so maybe you're right and they have run out of stickers? Being an end of line model, it would be silly to make more.

"OMG monthly filter washes!!! YES!!! "

Errrr...this excites you? What on earth for? Developing the filterless cyclone has been a long overdue and welcome change. Filter washing is a messy, unhygenic job. Always has been.

 

[parwaz786]

No... I cba to explain why... Well not really exciting but just for an emphasis

 

[vintagerepairer]

It is no secret that Dyson have scaled back their after-care services, and I happen to know that the filters on the DC25 can clog very quickly depending on the dust which is being collected. By telling the consumer to wash the filter every month will reduce the chances of it clogging and in turn potentially less calls to the Dyson helpline.

As a consumer, I would find monthly filter washes to be most inconvenient. For the retail price of the cleaner, and for what it costs to make a single filter, I think the least Dyson could do would be to supply their cleaners with two sets of filters, enabling the consumer to have a set to use whilst the other is being washed.

To the best of my knowledge, Dyson haven't even promoted this idea by selling the customer more filters, never mind giving them away. It's rather odd.

 

[super-sweeper]

if there's anything Dyson needs,

It's help with reliability!

 

[matt8808]

I hate emptying it as it is... let alone messing on washing the filters.

Every month seems a bit extreme too.

On a side note.... a friend of mine bought a DC25 Animal two and a half years ago.

She has a small dog, a mid size 3 bedroom house and vacuums properly about twice a week.

When she got the machine her filters still looked like new after 3 months, so I checked them again at 6 months... still clean. I tend to wash them every 9 months to a year for her. And they still don't look that bad when I wash them at that point either! I washed the filters last week for her as it happens... only the second time they've ever been cleaned!

Her previous machine was a DC03 and I used to wash the filter on that for her once a year... the water never ran from the filter dirty and the machine never lost any suction.

My machine will probably end up getting washed every 6 months or so based on how often I washed the filters on previous 25's I've owned.

I'm not messing about washing it once a month... my Kirby doesnt even get a bag change that often!

 

[dysonman1]

Dyson knows that people don't wash their filters often enough. By asking for a monthly wash, they're anticipating the average person will do it twice a year. I agree that Dyson SHOULD give a spare filter with their machines, my new Hoover Air Cordless came with two. But the directions with the Hoover Air Cordless state to wash filters every four to six uses.

 

[blakaeg]

My Dyson DC24 machine NEEDS it's filters washing every month. My Dyson went for a repair at the beginning of June and Dyson put in new filters.

I vacuum the flat around 3 to 4 times a week. Here's the filters before washing. My DC24 is 4 years old. Please note the filters never got clogged like this when I lived in the house so I guess that flat I live in has unusually fine dust in the carpet or it might be the carpet backing.

 

[blakaeg]

After washing

 

[blakaeg]

Dyson has modified the cleanerhead on their DC24 machines. The newer head that I now have on my machine seems to spin slower and also there is a slight soft start up of the brush motor, a bit like the DC15. The safety reset button on the side has been removed.

The slower RPM brush may mean it doesn't clean as well and Dyson waited until the DC24 was removed off the market before putting this type if head?? Who knows. But I'd rather a slower RPM brush than the awful rattles the previous heads used to give off after a few months. The DC24 and DC25 is still a preferred type of machine over the DC40, 41 and DC50 for me.

 

[matt8808]

I prefer the 24 over the 41 I used to own as it seems less flimsy. This was another thing that was taken into account when buying it

Rattling brush roll isn't an issue for me... It can rattle all it likes!

 

[turbo500]

may mean it doesn't clean as well

Actually, the slower brushroll should clean BETTER.

Examples:

Hoover used the activator brushroll in the Turbopower 2, however it never groomed as well as the TP1 as the motor was double the power of the TP1 and span twice as fast, which meant the brushes just glided over the top of the carpet rather than sweeping them up.

The Panasonic Icon is one of the best grooming machines I've ever used. The direct drive brushroll span 1/3 slower than the 1500w motor which mean high suction and a good grooming action which lifted the pile.

 

[kirbylux77]

Tom

If what you are saying about the Hoover Air Cordless is true, then washing the filter every 4 to 6 uses would amount to washing the filter once a month to 1 1/2 months, assuming the average household treats the Air Cordless & uses it just like an ordinary corded vacuum. In addition, the Air Cordless would FOR SURE need that amount of maintenance as a minimum, seeing as it's only dual-cyclonic & would pass a lot of dust onto the filter.

Rob

 

[blakaeg]

The Dual Cyclone machines were actually very good with their filtration. I actually find them to be the same as the Multi Cyclonic ones and no real difference.

Infact, I found the Dyson DC03 cyclone to be the best with filtration and that machine used a Dual Cyclone system. Not sure why the DC03 seemed more efficient in that way. Never had an issue with hair or debris finding its way to the Pre Motor filter. With my DC24 Root Cyclone the filter gets very dirty with hair and fine dust. The DC04 and DC04 were pretty good but occasionally had hair escape the cyclone assembly.

The Cinetic cyclones change everything.

Really like the look of the VAX Air Cordless, very clever looking and well thought out machine.