Dyson v11 "Outsize"

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Continuing with their seemingly annual release schedule, dyson have released a minor upgrade to last year's v11. This revision is called the v11 "outsize" and includes swap-able batteries, a wider floor head, and a hilariously huge bin for a handheld cleaner.

Weighing nearly 8 pounds Dyson seem to be stretching the definition of a handheld vac a little. I have the basic red v10 with the super small bin and I don't even like that for handheld use. Imagine trying to dust or clean your car with this thing! Oh, and it's 800 dollars with no hose included.

Still, runtime numbers are impressive and I can't really judge it until I've used one. What are your thoughts?


https://www.dyson.com/sticks/dyson-v11-outsize-nickel-red.html
 
I really like it from what I can see. Not to crazy about the red wand and red cleaner head. I’m glad that they kept the digital count down. I thought the same thing about how to clean the car out with this thing, especially if the dust bin is so huge. I did thought a while back that a future model Dyson, rather it be v12 or newer, would eventually have the removable battery as well as a bigger dust bin. Little did I know it was going to be a v11 still. For the price it could be worth it if they, Dyson toss in all the attachments as well as the floor dok, then it would be worth the 800. But owning a v7, the battery is just long enough to get my small apartment done and the bin is just a good size for me too. But I’m sure eventually Dyson will put it on some type of deal, even if it’s at the end of the year
 
I think they made of a very so so stick vacuum worse.

The v11 was already too bulky for a hand vacuum.
I think a cordless Henry still has it beat.
Wait till somebody gets their hands on the cordless Lindhaus upright with tools.


 
What's funny is I seen corded knockoffs of Dyson's V series stick vacs - and they use big bins like that to compensate to work with the only generic motors the Chinese factories have available to use - and now Dyson has done the same thing. lol
 
Having a larger floorhead and a swappable battery are good improvements but adding to the weight and the bulk is gonna make it difficult to use as a handheld.

I would like to see a more compact bin like I think they did on the V10 think it was the motorhead model? Yes you will have to empty the bin more often but it is lighter and less bulky.
If you do your cleaning in bite size amounts say your living room one day and your bedroom another the emptying won't be so bad. I'd rather that than the extra bulk and weight
 
Recently, I caught the spiel on QVC for the Dyson handheld. They talk constantly about how it's a replacement for a full size vacuum, and that the hand held model is "all you need". For a good number of folks, especially those with a home having all hard wood floors, it would be ok. But if you have wall to wall, like I do, it would be a terrible choice.

I had carpal tunnel surgery two years ago, and I certainly don't need anything that heavy to hold. Also, holding the trigger the entire time would just be too much. With two big dogs, I use my attachments all the time. This Dyson would make that too difficult - I think the tools were designed to help sell the machine but most people won't use them.

When Maytag and Tacony parted ways, there were at least a hundred M600 battery uprights that we had to give away as donations, etc. We took the serial numbers off since they were free and would have no warranty. I took one home, and am still using it. While it's not the best carpet cleaning upright, it does better at cleaning rugs than anything else I've used that runs on a battery. And it holds a lot of dirt.
 
They should add a locking device on the switch so you have a choice of using it as a trigger for a quick clean up or locked on for a longer cleaning session.
 
Size and weight is getting ridiculous on the new V11. Dyson has lost their minds with this. I like the wider cleaning head and removable battery, but come on Dyson. It's a stick vacuum and they need to be light. They really need to place the vacuum unit much lower position next to the cleaning head. Better option would be compact cordless upright if they want to make the bin bigger. I personally hate using stick vacuums long period of time. It gets tiring for the forearm. And what Dyson does is keep making them bigger.
 
Great Points Everyone

I think everyone has made fair points about this thing.The bigger floorhead and removable batteries are welcome improvements. If you need it mostly for floors, have a large area, and no problems holding the trigger down it may be a good option.

I think Dyson decided a long time ago that the "dustbuster-on-a-stick" design was the "best" format of cordless vacuum. It has apparently become one of their core philosophies along with the non-lockable trigger. I think this was perfectly fine and even made sense back in the days of the dc35. The trigger helped save the very finite battery life. The machine was very lite so holding it wasn't bad.

Now, dyson expects you to hold this very large and much heavier vacuum in your hand, and they expect you to hold down a trigger for up to 2 hours. I don't understand, the trigger was originally intended to help conserve battery power. What is their justification now?

I love stick vacs, but when I want to do more thorough cleaning a long hose and full tool set are required. I'm not going to dust with a v11 outsize, and I suspect most people won't either.

I've attached a picture of the dyson v10 model I ended up with. Even with extra tools I almost never use it for anything other than floors despite the more manageable size. I find myself preferring upright or canister style cordless vacs. Henry cordless has become not just one of my go-to cordless vacs, but my go-to canister as well.

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I’ve got last year’s V11 and it’s OK for a “daily driver” for me, but I bought a Rainbow to do my real weekly cleanings. The V11 doesn’t deep clean very well in my experience, but it helps keep cat hair swept up.
 
The vacuums have no agitation or suction - so they will always fail at anything beyond an area rug. (Whatever happened to "it beats as it sweeps as it cleans"?)
Remember when they made hose extensions for the classic battery powered dustbusters? Same thing here. Tiny motor working hard to go through a long several foot long tube, through a dust cup, and then through a nozzle head where it also has to spin the brush. It is gonna lose a lot of suction.

I pieced together a very early Dyson v series stick vac from spare parts on eBay one by one (I would never buy a new one and can't afford to anyway), and I cannot believe who buys these and thinks it replaces an upright. Heck my 1980's Riccar upright trounces this thing tenfold.
 
My take on this issue has always been as follows: If you don't feel that a cordless vacuum can clean well enough in your home to replace a corded vacuum, then by all means don't replace the corded vacuum. Pick what is best for your home, since nobody knows your cleaning needs better than you.

Personally, I've seen cordless vacuums change drastically over the last few years. I've seen enough evidence that cordless vacuums can clean just as well as a corded vacuum, between my own experience and other sources. My v10 managed to pull some dog hairs (and some grit) out of my deep-ish bedroom carpet from the previous tenant....five months after I had moved in. Cordless vacs aren't quite there yet, but for me they could comfortably replace corded vacs in my living situation.

I don't think comparing these to dustbusters of yore is very fair. Yes the dysons have small motors, but they are high speed and brush-less so they produce excellent power. And the dysons have always had motorized heads, not air driven.

The older v-series machines like the dc59/v6 are much less powerful, with less run time and weaker power heads. I got a dc59 new back in 2014, and it was only really suitable as a secondary vacuum for quick daily jobs. Personally I don't think the older models are comparable to the v10/11 series. I will say, the only reason I got this v10 is because the price dropped to that of a v8 which would have been my first choice.

Just my two cents.
 
The V11 was enough when I lived in a 600sq ft apartment and had no pets. I agree circumstances will determine if it can replace a corded vacuum.
 
In that case a better comparison would be an Oreck Pod (which I had and returned, in my experience the V11 has better debris pick up ability) or the Miele stick vac with a power nozzle.

But I’m not thrilled with “lightweight” vacuums that are heavy in, and straining on, the hand. When my V11 no longer works as it should, I’ll replace it with something less expensive and easier on the hands.

I’m curious though with the Out Size if that larger head picks up better, or if it’s a gimmick. I don’t need the larger bin, the v11 original size bin is large enough for me. But I’m intrigued by the new power nozzle.
 

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