super-sweeper
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Parwaz, you can keep using the Kirby until it tips over from the massive weight in the bag!
Dyson still sucking!
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Until recently, Dyson never touted themselves as a brand for deep carpet cleaning. People primarily buy a Dyson because they're easy to maneuver and don't loose suction. Plus they flat out look cool and aggressive. "Keeping up with the Joneses" probably plays a role in their sales too. I agree with fantomfan, Hoover is catching up pretty quickly, but Dyson certainly has their place in the industry.
Honestly, I think one of the reasons why Kirby has declined in popularity over the years, is not necessarily because they're bagged or slightly heavier, but because they refuse to move past door-to-door sales. The phrase "vacuum cleaner salesman" unfortunately has some negative connotations attached to it. I know I would never let a stranger into my personal home to try to sell me something. I don't think society is as trusting of each other as they used to.
Honestly, I think one of the reasons why Kirby has declined in popularity over the years, is not necessarily because they're bagged or slightly heavier, but because they refuse to move past door-to-door sales. The phrase "vacuum cleaner salesman" unfortunately has some negative connotations attached to it. I know I would never let a stranger into my personal home to try to sell me something. I don't think society is as trusting of each other as they used to.
Dyson never touted themselves as a brand for deep carpet cle
Old Dysons yeah but the new one definitely clean carpets really well specially England models every Dyson model gets better with better performance and just overall better. And especially old Dyson machines didn't clean carpets very well but Dyson have finally gave themselves a kick up the bum and finally make machines that deep clean carpet fantastically.
Old Dysons yeah but the new one definitely clean carpets really well specially England models every Dyson model gets better with better performance and just overall better. And especially old Dyson machines didn't clean carpets very well but Dyson have finally gave themselves a kick up the bum and finally make machines that deep clean carpet fantastically.
super-sweeper
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Oh,I won't even bother to make a Kirby joke....
marks_here
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Kirby in the morning,
Kirby in the evening,
Kirby at supper time,
If I give you a Kirby,
Will you always be mine???
I like that jingle
Copyright ©2014Because I did ®™
Kirby in the evening,
Kirby at supper time,
If I give you a Kirby,
Will you always be mine???
I like that jingle
Copyright ©2014Because I did ®™
Oh yes, I know you can 
I had a dirt devil handy zip which I used to vacuum up like. Pile of sawdust, and it lost suction when the bag was only brick hard, impressive! I was then convinced that bagged vacuums dont lost suction from that day, until they are full though, obviously, but yeah!
I had a dirt devil handy zip which I used to vacuum up like. Pile of sawdust, and it lost suction when the bag was only brick hard, impressive! I was then convinced that bagged vacuums dont lost suction from that day, until they are full though, obviously, but yeah!
suckolux
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Another issue with Kirby,not just price, or weight or the door to door, but the action required to attach a hose leaves many frustrated, probably none of us here, but average person maybe
super-sweeper
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what has the world come to, when they can't even attach a hose to a vacuum cleaner?
Super-sweeper
It depends on the type of vacuum. On the Hoover Windtunnel Air Steerable, you have to plug in the hose each time you want to use it. You have to take the hose out of its holster, flip a door down and plug the hose into a port. When you want to go back to cleaning floors, you unplug the hose and holster it back into its holder. Probably not the best vacuum if you use attachments a lot.
On some other vacuums, such as the Eureka AirSpeed series, there is a suction diverter on the side of the vacuum. It has to be turned from "floors" to "tools" when using the hose and attachments. I think this diverter allows the suction to be more direct, and more powerful, due to the AirSpeed technology. However, one has to remember to flip the diverter back to "floors" when finished with the hose!
On a canister vacuum, it's a different story. With uprights, I'm used to rolling the vacuum out of the closet, plugging it in and turning it on. Now, with a canister, I have a few more steps, as the vacuum is stored in 3 pieces: Canister, hose, and power nozzle/wand unit. When I go to vacuum, I have to attach the hose to the canister and to the wand/power nozzle unit. When I'm finished, I disconnect the hose from both ends to make the machine fit in my closet.
I would much rather have a vacuum where you just pull the hose out, attach your desired tool(s) and vacuum away. When finished, just store the tool(s) and put the hose back into the suction opening. Simple as that.
It depends on the type of vacuum. On the Hoover Windtunnel Air Steerable, you have to plug in the hose each time you want to use it. You have to take the hose out of its holster, flip a door down and plug the hose into a port. When you want to go back to cleaning floors, you unplug the hose and holster it back into its holder. Probably not the best vacuum if you use attachments a lot.
On some other vacuums, such as the Eureka AirSpeed series, there is a suction diverter on the side of the vacuum. It has to be turned from "floors" to "tools" when using the hose and attachments. I think this diverter allows the suction to be more direct, and more powerful, due to the AirSpeed technology. However, one has to remember to flip the diverter back to "floors" when finished with the hose!
On a canister vacuum, it's a different story. With uprights, I'm used to rolling the vacuum out of the closet, plugging it in and turning it on. Now, with a canister, I have a few more steps, as the vacuum is stored in 3 pieces: Canister, hose, and power nozzle/wand unit. When I go to vacuum, I have to attach the hose to the canister and to the wand/power nozzle unit. When I'm finished, I disconnect the hose from both ends to make the machine fit in my closet.
I would much rather have a vacuum where you just pull the hose out, attach your desired tool(s) and vacuum away. When finished, just store the tool(s) and put the hose back into the suction opening. Simple as that.
cb123
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ralph123
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Maybe in the next hundred years Kirby will invent on board tools.
sptyks
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The best upright vacuums with on-board tools...
Are undoubtedly the Tandem Air Riccar Radience or the Maytag M1200, both made by Tacony corp.
Are undoubtedly the Tandem Air Riccar Radience or the Maytag M1200, both made by Tacony corp.
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I agree with you there. Riccar and Maytag are the best uprights available today.
sebo_fan
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Sorry Marcus I beg to differ - you can't go on 'hearsay" alone without actually owning that brand. They may well appeal in the U.S but then so do Oreck uprights and they have a patchy reputation here in the UK.
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I will be trying one out next month. I think I'll be just as impressed as Seamus who imported the Brilliance.
Tandem motors, metal brushroll,foot release, cord hook, motor mountings. Very nice tools, excellent filtration.
Looks fabulous to me Nar. But we shall see
Tandem motors, metal brushroll,foot release, cord hook, motor mountings. Very nice tools, excellent filtration.
Looks fabulous to me Nar. But we shall see
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But I take your point. They may be better suited to American homes.
super-sweeper
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But Kirby did it right!
I HATED the setup on my DC17, it was terribly awkward to use! You had to lift the wand up and out of the handle, then hold it an uncomfortable angle.I had 2 DC17s, and sold them both! OK on carpets, but there's a better way!
Homes aren't cleaned the way they once were. Used to, you popped the carry-strap and hose on your Kirby, then went around the house and attended to your Above-The-Floor cleaning. Now, the hose on an upright is seen to many consumers as a way to get gunk out of a corner. Setting up the Kirby for this would indeed be a hassle, but it's a PLEASURE when the couches, beds, ceilings, corners and everything else require cleaning! Would you rather have a shining aluminum power-house following you around, or a clunky plastic what-have-you? Think of all the drag-around-tragedies!
I HATED the setup on my DC17, it was terribly awkward to use! You had to lift the wand up and out of the handle, then hold it an uncomfortable angle.I had 2 DC17s, and sold them both! OK on carpets, but there's a better way!
Homes aren't cleaned the way they once were. Used to, you popped the carry-strap and hose on your Kirby, then went around the house and attended to your Above-The-Floor cleaning. Now, the hose on an upright is seen to many consumers as a way to get gunk out of a corner. Setting up the Kirby for this would indeed be a hassle, but it's a PLEASURE when the couches, beds, ceilings, corners and everything else require cleaning! Would you rather have a shining aluminum power-house following you around, or a clunky plastic what-have-you? Think of all the drag-around-tragedies!
sptyks
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Marcus: You really should visit Tom Gasko at the Tacony factory when you go to St. Louis. You will not only be able visit the largest vacuum cleaner museum in the world, but you can also visit the Tacony factory right next door and watch the Riccars, Simplicitys, and Maytag vacuums being built and rolling off the assembly line.
If you're interested, Tom can let you try one out and you will be very impressed. You will see for yourself why Tacony built vacuums are simply the best, excepting Kirbys of course! Tom can get you a good discount on any of those 3 brands at the Factory Outlet Store and show you how take it on the plane with you back to the UK. I think he's done it before.
If you're interested, Tom can let you try one out and you will be very impressed. You will see for yourself why Tacony built vacuums are simply the best, excepting Kirbys of course! Tom can get you a good discount on any of those 3 brands at the Factory Outlet Store and show you how take it on the plane with you back to the UK. I think he's done it before.
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