dyson + hammer =

[gottahaveahoove]

well put

My former boss, leftover from Woodstock, (no bra, save the planet, herbal colon cleanses, tofu, Cesar Chavez) hates HOOVER, loves Dyson (Mummy was British), hates cats, children, ME. One can't reason with THAT much ignorance!

 

[vintagerepairer]

I will never understand the promotion of upright cleaners being used on hard floors, even with the brushes switched off, because for me a hose and floor tool is what is needed. But that aside, I will also never understand why in the UK at least Dyson have regularly made cleaners which they call 'all floors' as in the brushes can be switched off, and yet still have included a hard floor tool for the hose on certain all floor models. Whilst I personally think that a floor tool is better than using the cleaner upright, I think Dyson should have made their minds up what it was they believed in, because to me saying the cleaner can be used upright on hard floors and then including a hard floor tool as well is sending out very mixed messages to the consumer.

As for Dysons snapping, it is very common here in the UK, but we have of course had the cleaners for much longer than many other countries, so have more models and examples to speak about. It is probably fair to say that the uprights were worse than the cylinders. The main handle on the DC01 would often snap in two, around the ridges above the release catch. Also the wheels would wear out, if not that the supports around the central hole would split. The soleplate I have mentioned already.

The DC04, DC03, and DC07 cleaners were all liable to have the loop on the handle snap off, sometimes the handle would split in half like the DC01 would, particularly if the cleaner toppled over backwards. But a brief look at many old UK Dysons will reveal bits of plastic missing from various areas of the machine.

 

[gsheen]

Vintage repairer


 


you make some good points , I sell dysons all day so here are my views on your points,


Hardfloors , Most houses have carpets and hardflooring , If you can only afford one vacuum then a upright is the way to go because it can clean the hardflooring ( brushes off ) and give the carpet a good clean , better than any non pn cylinder.


Why include the had floor tool , will to get under things like couches beds and so on.


 


My house is split on flooring , we have carpets , marble , terracotta stone , origan pine and some rugs, I prefer an upright over a cylinder to vacuum anywhere in the house because its faster and easier ( to me ) and I hate dragging a machine behind me 

 

[jmurray01]

"once a topic gets around 70 or 80 posts you find it then gets repeated by someone who wants to be popular." Totally agree Robert. Just like with my "Bagged or Bagless" thread. This guy is just desperate to be popular in my opinion.

 

[jmurray01]

"On her bestday, she's not the "brighjtest bulb

I know exactly what you mean.

I once had somebody ask me why I collect Vacuum Cleaners, but mentioning her collection of shoes soon shut her up.

She tried to reply with "well at least I can wear my shoes!", but I simply replied with "well I can use my Vacuum Cleaners!".

 

[gsheen]

mm this topic has brought up some very interesting points.


 


To be fair I hardly ever look in the archives before making a thread and why would you, new members join every day and things change,


Imagine how boring this forum would be if we all never posted because some one posted a similar thread back 4 years ago.


 


This forum is ment to be here for discussing your vacuum's, The way you collect what models you like , other vacuum topics and then to share our passion and some of our lives with each other in a "safe " place were you won't get ripped off because of what you like or who you are.


 


There has been a lot of infighting on this forum and I for one got so sick of it I lost interest in posting for a while. 


Considering that most of us faced some form of persecution because of our fondness of vacuums at some point in our lives It seems strange that there is so little tolerance when someone says the wrong thing or posts something that seems worthless to others. Remember that your vacuum collection may be worthwhile to you but to some one else its a pile of junk needing to be taken to the scrapheap. In the same way when some one posts a thread about something that upsets them why mock or take them to task just because you don't agree or see any value in there thread. 


 


Gareth 

 

[mieles7]

gsheen
How does a vacuum get dropped 3 stories, and what part of the Kirby broke in half?

 

[gsheen]

sen you asked I will tell, 


a dc14 fll 3 storied when the owner tried lowering it to his car from the 6th floor  below to clean it. ( similar to a pic in a thread on this forum) The BRITE SPARK tried lowering it by the extension lead it was pluged into when it unplugged and fell.


 


the cleaner head of the kirby , the one side was missing , on both machines , same customer though  

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Ever so eloquent GARETH!

well put, indeed. We are all here to share, learn, explore, laugh, etc, about vacuums. The ones we like, dislike, admire, question. We don't judge, bash, or try to hurt anyone,(intentionally). We can/should agree to disagree.
Look at the friendship that have been cultivated within this group.We,ve seen parents, partners, pets die, and we are there. Newer people might not know that a topic has been brought up before. WE may not know how to look it up. Hasn't EVERYTHING been talked about by now?"We've" been persecuted by others, we don't need that from within. Just my $02.There are vacuums I wouldn't be interested in, but, I respect those who do. Well, I don'thave much respect for my whackjob cousin. ANd, that was long before I heard about her Dyson! My nasty boss LOVES "British" Dysons. She told me, "It even had a BALL". It took everything I had to NOT say, "Yeah? Well, I have TWO"! She said, "I just love my ball". I was thinking, "I love mine, too". But I restrained myself.

 

[sebo_fan]

We Are Not All The Same...though!

Rugsucker - yep you're spot on - James Dyson was quite honest about how a Sebo upright vacuum's bin could be smashed by a hammer compared to the hammer bouncing off his DC01 - pity that I managed to smash the front of my DC01 in a few years later with my own experiment to the sides of the machine's floor head.

I think in all honesty it was a cheap trick. Just because a vacuum cleaner has an indestructible exterior doesn't mean that it is well built - one can only go so far with quality claims and the DC01 was far from perfect when it was launched. As the owner of one, I found the machine to be good at clean up but not without constant problems to the filters having to be replaced and dust leaking into the motor. Not exactly well made then!

VR & gsheen - uprights with brush roll off function. Yes, in a larger area of being able to pick up dust, brush on/off rolls could well look like they're not well designed. I however prefer using my Felix for a quick clean instead of having to drag a canister behind me and go to the fuss and bother. It is true that whilst suction floor heads are thus bigger and have larger dust channels to suck dust in without a brush roll that gets in the way, I guess it comes down to individual need and at the time of the cleaning session. If I was required to clean a lot of hard floors in a home that predominately had hard floors over carpets, then yes I'd get out the Deluxe Parquet floor head for the Felix and use that - it is after all a floor tool that can be used on any of the Sebo cylinders - likewise to anyone who has a stick vac similar to the Sebo Felix that has the optional usage of the hard floor tool. But when only requiring to clean a small bit of hard floor, I just take advantage of the brush roll/on/off button the PN floor head.

As for forum topics - the posts can be deleted and fighting can occur if opinions are one sided, ignorant of what is going on in the world and other aspects of consumer collecting hobbies! We're not all here to make friends, but we're here to benefit in some ways from one another's habits or experiences. Opinions can change over the years and as a forum we should be allow to voice that. Yes, there may be posts that don't appear to make sense to YOU but they may appeal to someone else and yes whilst past posts or threads are on this forum, there isn't an etiquette put in place that teaches members to look at past threads - an example of this is the Hoover Turbopower threads - they and other UK Hoover models from the past have been added on here, yet some new members aren't bothering to look.

 

[Jakesvacs]

While I do not support smashing vacuums, that does show that dyson use good building materials. I have found after time it does get weaker, there is certain dysons you could snap in half trying to push it over a threshold!

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Jake,

You know I'd NEVER bash. That said, it is a shame that they could snap after age. That's a lot of money to invest to see it weaken. Just a comment. Dyson is truly NOT the only brand to do that. My beloved HOOVER has some now that are truly not stellar as well.

 

[Jakesvacs]

John, your right in every respect.
By saying I do not support smashing vacuums, I was not pointing fingers! We can not all be savers! I admit, a certain dyson was saved from a skip and the only way to get to the bit I needed was to use a hammer,saw and screwdriver.

 

[kirby]

just so you know i am not desperate to be popular as i have not been all of my life so i have no idea how it feals

 

[vintagerepairer]

Gareth I like your message and to be honest I would never think to look in the archive unless prompted to do so.

Regarding the hard-floor tool supplied with some multifloor Dyson uprights, it never occurred to me until you said that it would be used for low level cleaning, with the bulk of the cleaning done in upright mode with brushes off. My personal choice is to never use an upright on none carpeted surfaces, irrespective of a brush roll or not. I like to use a cylinder cleaner, as if it were a broom almost. The only personal gripe I have with cylinders is that they don't work as well on carpets and can be very hard to move. Otherwise I'd never have an upright.

 

[briguy]

Well said Gareth

Gareth you hit the nail on the head! I have often thought that same thing. Some of us have put up with too much s@#t over the years because of our passion for vacuums. We don't need it here.

"Considering that most of us faced some form of persecution because of our fondness of vacuums at some point in our lives It seems strange that there is so little tolerance when someone says the wrong thing or posts something that seems worthless to others."

 

[floor-a-matic]

Here we go again!

Why bring up this subject here again? I thought we are SUPPOSED TO PRESERVE & COLLECT VACUUMS, NOT DESTROY THEM!

 

[vintagerepairer]

Did you see the post Gareth made?

 

[suctionselector]

turbopower1984

It was me who made that aw.org thread, I did NOT want a popular thread, just wanted to learn more about Hotpoint! I was unaware of the archive thread until you told me!

 

[turbomaster1984]

Jacob,

It wasnt you I was referring to hence I did not mention your name.

The member I refer to is long off the scene but most likely lurking.

Still it begs the question as why so many useless threads are made when answers ARE in the archives and are very easily found using the searchalator .