Dyson Dual Cyclone machines

[dysondestijl]

Hi All!
just wanted to start a thread about Dual cyclone dysons, and what people think of them. i have 7 dual cyclones, (3xDC01, 2xDC02, 2xDC04) and i think they aren't too bad, just the DC01's are a little low on 'suck'. however there were some good machines, such as the limited editions- as you may guess by my username i really like the De Stijl colour scheme.
thedysonman

 

[dysondestijl]

DC02

here is one of my DC02's:

 

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DC04 absolute

 

[suckolux]

Cool pics, thanks for the look

 

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other DC02 taken with DC08T (not dual cyclone!)

 

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DC01 de stijl

 

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DC04 (sorry for bad quality)

 

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and finally another DC01

 

[madabouthoovers]

You'll not get many replies on this subject as the majority of members here are American, and the earliest Dyson they got over there was the DC07, so they wouldnt know about the Dual Cyclone original machines.
I like the earlier Dysons, and have a few uprights, but the only one I have thats a Dual Cyclone is the DC04 Purple and Magenta which I picked up for a bargain price of £5 in a bad state on EBay. It was filthy and not working, but I repaired the cable, and cleaned it up and its not a bad cleaner, but not as powerful as the later multicyclonic models. I think the earlier models up to the DC15 were the best and most reliable as long as they are maintained properly. I liked the colours of the older models, and nowadays they are very boring. The bright colours of the DeStijl models are great, and in good condition the DC01, DC02 and DC04 DeStijl models will be collectable the older they get. I think the DC02 DeStijl is possibly the rarest one now, as the DC02 wasnt that popular when it was launched, with the DC05 being a much better seller.

Here's some of my Dysons, including the DC04, which was always my favourite colour combination:

 

[Jakesvacs]

Hi

Really like your dyson collection. We have similar machines!

 

[dysondestijl]

Dyson

Hi there jake- i do also have a dc16 animal, dc25 ball, dc07 animal, and a dc14 vroom- and about 35 non-dyson vacs.
thedysonman

 

[dysondestijl]

Madabouthoovers...

Hi there, madabouthoovers, your dc04 is my dream machine to have. it looks so shiny! i also like your dc15. and i love the dc07's, one of the best ones!
thedysonman

 

[vintagerepairer]

I like the idea of a cyclone cleaner which does not lose suction power. I also like the way the dirt slides out of a Dyson tank. So that is good.

What I do not like is that in making a bagless cleaner and making all sorts of comments about bags costing money and this being unfair on consumers, he spared no thought for the thousands of independent retailers who relied on the sale of vacuum cleaner consumables to keep their business going.

No one has ever yet said how important suction power is in the overall experience that is cleaning. To my knowledge no figures have been collated and put into the public domain as to how many air watts are needed to perform individual cleaning tasks. And whilst the original Dyson DC01, DC02, and DC03 cleaners did not lose suction power, they never had a good deal of it to start with. Many of the bagged competitor machines had more power, albeit in decline as the bag filled.

I am also at a loss for words as to how someone as clever as James Dyson has consistently overlooked and dismissed much of what worked well on existing vacuum cleaners in his attempts to make his own cleaners. So he replaced the bag with a no loss of suction cyclone system. Fair enough. But the inconvenience of the fat plastic tubes, short hoses, and latterly short mains leads and impractical tools are to my mind becoming a problem in itself, to the point where one could be forgiven for thinking that a regular bagged cleaner with a conventional set of practical tools and useful length of easy to use hose would be a better choice for some consumers over a bagless no loss of suction cleaner which is incredibly difficult to use and manage.

As the years have passed, all I see is that Dyson cleaners have solved one specific problem -the bag- but consistently added more and more different problems into the balance.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Agreed...

I find that the Dysons are not the easiest machines to use - despite what the television adverts say.

And I have to say, I still prefer the Hoover Purepower style of tools: decent length hose, extension tube, long straight crevice tool, separate dusting brush and upholstery head.

 

[turbo500]

The success of Dyson purely lies in clever marketing and not the product. I've always found most Dyson cleaners to be incredibly average machines, with a very premium price tag. I do like the idea of a bagless machine, but in practice I've always found them messy, unhygenic, flimsey, over priced and poorly constructed. The earlier machines were certainly nothing to write home about, with the DC01, DC02 and DC03 having some of the lowest suction on the market at the time. The DC04 was a VAST improvement and probably my favourite of all the Dyson cleaners. Of the 5 Dyson's my Grandparents have owned, it was certainly the more higher performing and it lasted the longest.


 


I've also never been a fan of the tools. One of the things I love the most about the Sebo is the quick release hose and wand that doesn't require me to stop using the machine and put it upright whilst in use if I need to get into a corner or behind furniture etc.


 


I do think Dyson have improved dramatically since the days of the DC01. I used the DC40 the other week for the first time, and apart from being disapointed in the build quality, I found it to be a pretty good machine. However, I still firmly hold my belief that there are higher performing, more reliable and cheaper bagged cleaners on the market. Anybody that spends £398 in a Dyson DC40 need their head testing.

 

[jmurray01]

Benny summed my opinions up to a T.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Dyson made a big mistake when he decided to lay off his production staff in Malmesbury, Wiltshire, and move production off to the far East in Malaysia in 2001. Many people have never forgiven Dyson for doing this, and it was seen as purely greedy and profit grabbing.
I would never buy a new Dyson and pay full price for it, when so many older models are available on Ebay for less than £60 refurbished. They are good as bagless cleaners, but too many of them become fragile and suffer from broken plastic housings, torn hoses and bits snapping off. Also, far too many later model DC24 and DC25's suffered from premature brushroll motor failure, and the prices now approaching £400 for the newest models will buy you a top of the range Sebo or Miele high quality bagged upright with all the bells and whistles, made in Germany not Malaysia.
Also, whilst I have a few old Dysons I rarely use them, and use a Sebo X4 or Miele S6 for daily cleaning - both bagged cleaners. My Dysons are purely part of my collection, and I am not interested in any newer than the DC15, as that is where they got simply too expensive and unreliable, and I never approved of his move in production to Malaysia.

 

[dysondestijl]

dc25..........

hi there everyone, i am really sorry but i'm not too certain, as i have a DC25 as you can see and i use it all the time, as i think it is amazing. but i do agree dyson took the cheaper way out and moved to malaysia, and the motors don't last nealy as long as the earlier ones did. Although the DC01/02 were iconic desings, they do have their many flaws! the DC04 was probably the best dual cyclone, despite some of the non-clutched brush rollers being very noisy!
thanks for all your comments!
thedysonman

 

[madabouthoovers]

I have seen many DC24's especially on ebay that have had brushroll motor failure, and these small motors are usually only available as a complete head assembly. Its a good thing that most Dysons now come with a 5 year guarantee so at least you can own it for 5 years with no financial outlay for its repairs, as Dyson are actually good at repairing them under warranty. But A vacuum for the price asked for a Dyson should be expected to last longer than 5 years in a domestic situation.
Of all the Dyson DC07's I bought to refurbish and sell on again, the most common problems were motor's arcing or burnt out completely, plastics snapped off, main hoses that have rips or tears in them, broken handle retaining lugs on the back of the switch housings, plastic soleplates that crack, break or disintegrate, and on the clutchless models, broken brushroll belts and brushroll clatter. But many of these problems were caused by owner neglect to maintain the machine properly. Bagless machines are much more prone to motor failure through overheating, as people dont clean the filters as often as they should or operate the machine with uncleared blockages.
One of the biggest problems on the DC04, was the mains cable breaking internally at the joint to the spine of the cleaner, at the switch housing grommet. Also, the wand handle wasnt reversible as on the DC07, so that the handle iself got in the way of using the wand. The DC01, was a nuiscance for having to buy new pre motor filters as they werent washable, and it didnt have clutch control for the brushroll. It also had relatively poor suction. The other big problem with the DC01 was that the top of the handle often suffered from broken plastics where the tools fitted into the end of it.