Dyson DC65 Airflow Losses
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luxkid1980
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I too am not sure why people waste money on the garbage bagless vacs. I guess they figure they will come ahead since they won't be buying bags, but a majority of the bagless ones won't last long enough to see those savings.
I was in a store over the weekend and there was a family in there looking at a Shark vacuum and a couple other brands the store had. They couldn't decide what they wanted, but were trying to find the one with the most advertised watts. I told them to save their money and go elsewhere and get a proper vacuum with a bag and it would be easier to maintain. The lady looked at me like I was crazy to want a vacuum with a bag.
I was in a store over the weekend and there was a family in there looking at a Shark vacuum and a couple other brands the store had. They couldn't decide what they wanted, but were trying to find the one with the most advertised watts. I told them to save their money and go elsewhere and get a proper vacuum with a bag and it would be easier to maintain. The lady looked at me like I was crazy to want a vacuum with a bag.
alexhoovers94
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Well if you look at it from a consumers point of view...Which is more user friendly? A Kirby? Or a Dyson?
That was a rhetorical question.
That was a rhetorical question.
Yes the Dyson is clearly more user friendly. The Kirby with the tech drive is effortless to push though. I like that.
It is too bulky. I only use it to clean my varpets, I use my C3 for other jobs. It's a combination that works very well for me ,
It is too bulky. I only use it to clean my varpets, I use my C3 for other jobs. It's a combination that works very well for me ,
blackheart
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Hahaha!
Yeah i knew it was going to have a low CFM at the base, if you remove the head and put a baird meter to the opening it won't register at all. I've got a 65, in fact i just used it yesterday it's....different from the rest of my vacs so it gets a pass to stay.
Yeah i knew it was going to have a low CFM at the base, if you remove the head and put a baird meter to the opening it won't register at all. I've got a 65, in fact i just used it yesterday it's....different from the rest of my vacs so it gets a pass to stay.
wyaple
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I Also Confirm a Baird "2" With The Nozzle Removed
So a DC65 gets a "whopping" 2 with the nozzle removed, which translates to 62 CFM. Why people spend well over $600 for this machine is beyond me.
Bill
So a DC65 gets a "whopping" 2 with the nozzle removed, which translates to 62 CFM. Why people spend well over $600 for this machine is beyond me.
Bill
alexhoovers94
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I don't know why Dysons get so much flack, I love mine. I think it works great.
Although, British Dyson uprights have different floor heads/brushrolls than the US Dyson uprights.
Although, British Dyson uprights have different floor heads/brushrolls than the US Dyson uprights.
wyaple
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Even Though Dysons Are Wildly Popular In The U.S.
I just have a difficult time spending $600 for 52 CFM at the nozzle. I can spend $70 and have 80 CFM at the nozzle by purchasing a Hoover Tempo Widepath bagged machine. Or, if I demand a bag less machine, I can spend $70 (on sale) for a Hoover Windtunnel 2 Pet (still being sold here) that has...wait for it...52 CFM at the nozzle.
To date, I have a DC14, DC25, and DC65 in my herd and they are used in regular rotation.
Bill
I just have a difficult time spending $600 for 52 CFM at the nozzle. I can spend $70 and have 80 CFM at the nozzle by purchasing a Hoover Tempo Widepath bagged machine. Or, if I demand a bag less machine, I can spend $70 (on sale) for a Hoover Windtunnel 2 Pet (still being sold here) that has...wait for it...52 CFM at the nozzle.
To date, I have a DC14, DC25, and DC65 in my herd and they are used in regular rotation.
Bill
mixman
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Well, you would have to lack online skills or be just plain lazy to pay $600 for any Dyson. Right now you can get the DC65 refurb for about $219 from the Dyson outlet or a total clean new for $300. So when the public sees a discounted Dyson they think they are getting one of the best bargains in vacuuming, which is why so many are quick to purchase, plus as long as it gets their pet hairs out of their carpets and upholstery they will think its a great machine.
wyaple
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Mike,
I was referring to when the DC65 was new a few years ago. And with tax, many people paid closer to $700. Who would want to buy a superseded Dyson DC65 now that the "Ball 2" technology is available?
Bill
I was referring to when the DC65 was new a few years ago. And with tax, many people paid closer to $700. Who would want to buy a superseded Dyson DC65 now that the "Ball 2" technology is available?
Bill
mixman
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Bill
True about the Animal 2, but as far as I can see it is a small improvement at best of the older Ball Animal. But to circle back as to the reason why I think people buy them it is because they generally get them cheap, or at least cheaper than the MSRP and also most think they are powerful enough. They see the infomercials and say "Wow that thing works better than my current vacuum, think I will get that."
True about the Animal 2, but as far as I can see it is a small improvement at best of the older Ball Animal. But to circle back as to the reason why I think people buy them it is because they generally get them cheap, or at least cheaper than the MSRP and also most think they are powerful enough. They see the infomercials and say "Wow that thing works better than my current vacuum, think I will get that."
User friendly--For me KIRBY is more user friendly than the Dyson.The Dyson is too clacky and MORE clunky to me and to top it off emptying its disgusting dirt bin and having to clean its filter.The hose and wands on the Dyson are VERY awkward-and too small of a bore to move enough air for hand tool cleaning.And another thing--At the vac shop a few weeks ago the fellow there was cleaning out CLOGGED cyclones on two Dyson machines.The cyclones were stuffed full of people,pet hair and carpet fluff and dust.Yes,the cyclones DO clog!Its far easier,faster,and CLEANER to replace the bag in the Kirby.Some Dyson models end weighing as much as a Kirby and NO self propel!The handle and bin assembly are hand heavy and prevent the machine from getting under furniture.The powernozzle necks on these clog all of the time because the holes are too small.The Dysons motor is choked off from this.
luxkid1980
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I looked at a couple different dysons at the store the other day and they just feel cheap, too much ugly plastic. The guy at my local vacuum shop said the dysons were in there all the time for a clog or other type of repair. They, in my opinion, are not worth anywhere near MSRP, but granted, few vacuums are. Good deals are not hard to find. Though some dream machines like an Aerus guardian platinum aren't within reach for me, even when on sale! 
alexhoovers94
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Perhaps I shpuld of said, inconvenient, a Kirby is by far the biggest, clunkiest, inconvenient machine I have ever used.
alexhoovers94
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Kirbys are certainly on par with old Hoover uprights in terms of performance.
sptyks
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I have a 50 year old Kirby DS50 that weighs only 15 pounds and it is not only lighter but it can outclean any plasticrap Dyson you own.
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luxkid1980
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Have to keep in mind that "user friendly" can mean different things to different people. I don't mind a heavy vacuum if it cleans well and it easy to move around (from carpet to bare floors, as well as tote around from room to room). I prefer my Orecks for quick cleaning of carpets and bare floors, but I like my Electrolux for areas that I cannot use the Oreck, like on the couch or when I need to use the crevice tool or dusting brush. It's a heavier vacuum that I often just pick up and carry versus rolling it around. Also, I'm not inconvenienced by using different machines for different purposes, some probably would be.
But again, I don't want to have to take out a filter and wash it in the sink or take the dust bin and empty it in the trash and then wipe it out. Its easier for me to just toss the paper bag in the trash and put in a new one. And, I don't have to buy a HEPA filters with my current lineup. Some people don't mind doing that of course.
But again, I don't want to have to take out a filter and wash it in the sink or take the dust bin and empty it in the trash and then wipe it out. Its easier for me to just toss the paper bag in the trash and put in a new one. And, I don't have to buy a HEPA filters with my current lineup. Some people don't mind doing that of course.
