Dyson DC08 Help!

[sebo_fan]

I have already messaged Dysondestijl on here with a query and he tried his best but...

Basically I have a friend who has a Dyson DC08 Animal. She says the hose doesn't wrap around the vacuum's body, and is thus not the Telescope machine. I have no clue with more modern Dysons, so perhaps someone else can help here as she has enquired about trying to source a new turbo brush that is cheaper than Dyson who want to charge her £60 odd for replacement.

This cylinder vacuum has a suction pipe with no button connection on it and she needs to find a cost effective air turbine main sized floor head. I've already found one on Ebay UK which is friction fit only and a fraction of the £60 asking price Dyson are currently charging (seems a bit of a mad price given that Miele or SEBO turbo tools cost nearly half of that)...anyway to get the tube to fit the friction fit turbo tool is there a connection adaptor that is available? A universal adaptor from Dyson shows a push connection top to a friction fit short tube, but is this 32mm sizing or would the square adaptor be required? See pics.

 

[sebo_fan]

The adaptor choices: so, which one, if anyone knows!

 

[turbo500]

Ryan, I may be wrong, but I don't think that floortool is a turbo brush, I think that's the standard, straight suction floortool. 


 


This would be a suitable replacement 


 



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dyson-DC0...Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item33815ca673

 

[gsheen]

That is a contact head not a turbo brush , Its a dc08 the dc08 wrap around with the telescopic hose is called the TW. The adapter on th right will help the machine accept the latest dyson range of attachments. The link above is also correct.

Gareth

 

[parwaz786]

You dont need any of these adaptors, I had the Dyson DC08 Origin, the Square adaptor on the left is already on your DC08 machine fitted onto both the wand, and hose end (handle) so All you need is a proper DC08 floor tool, and by the Way the DC08 is 35MM instead of 32MM
The contact head in the first pic is good for suction, they work WELL GOOD and are amazing, but the Turbine head is good for Airflow too

 

[sebo_fan]

Yes I KNOW THAT but she wants a bloody turbo brush - OHHHH its so annoying - bloody Dyson - so much for ease of use with a more modern design!!

Sorry I'm just getting annoyed. Thank you so far. She wouldn't have this nonsense if it was a conventional bagged cylinder like Sebo, Hoover or Miele.

So, in light of the fact that the neck has come off her CONTACT SUCTION only floor tool, she now wants to try a turbo brush for the pet hair as the normal floor head wasn't suitable. As such, with the fact that the outer ring thing is still on the bottom of the tube, what adaptor would she require to fit a friction fit 3.2cm turbo tool? - see link for the one on EBAY UK.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYSON-Uni...Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item51a94df22a

 

[sebo_fan]

Also just saw this...on Ebay - would this be more suitable? If the ring measures 3.5cm she'd still need a ruddy adaptor.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Standard-...Vacuum_Cleaner_Bags_Parts&hash=item53f77d1e2c

 

[parwaz786]

I dont think there are any adaptors for that, most likely but does she mind if the turbo brush gets stuck into the wand?

 

[sebo_fan]

I dont think she would like the floor head permanently bonded to the wand - I already thought of that one, but thanks for your input.

 

[parwaz786]

SORRY for the frequent repliesbut:-
PS That second turbo tool you shown us will fit your DC08, you dont need any adaptor though as its designed for that, just fit it onto the vacuum

 

[sebo_fan]

the silver one with the purple button? Great! Thank you very much! That's the one Sebo use on their D and K cylinders as well, although Miele's one is slightly redesigned and heavier.

 

[parwaz786]

Yep, good luck! and I know lol, I noticed quite a lot of vacuum manufacturers had these type of turbo brushes

BTW how do you find the Dyson? I found the suction impressive on mine which what made me like it
and sorry to annoy you

 

[sebo_fan]

You haven't annoyed me - my friend did after her hummin and hawin' - and I haven't tried her DC08 or any DC08.

 

[parwaz786]

Oh, OK

 

[sebo_fan]

infact Tayyab, I've owned a few DC01's, a DC02, two DC03's, a DC04 and then much later bought the Dyson City Vac that I just couldn't get to grips with. As you say the older ones are much better and I'm inclined to agree. Still miss the sound of an old DC01 - so much quieter than a lot of vacs around at that time in my opinion.

My main argument after all these years is that its about time Dyson considered a budget price hitting upright that doesn't cost over £150 or so to buy? The hand held option is okay but its not the same as mains powered constantly plugged in.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Price

Dyson has established a price within the vacuum cleaner market. I suspect that a cleaner selling for under £150 might attract sales from those who won't pay the current price for a Dyson, but I suspect also that a good deal of people paying over £200 for a Dyson might go for the £150 model instead. So you see, I think Dyson would make far less money by trying to appeal to an audience which is not currently buying into the whole Dyson cult as a result of loyal followers purchasing the same model.

They could do it of course if they were providing a service; how many service providers out there are offering great deals to new customers and not to their existing customer base? They do it because it's physically possible to do so.

 

[parwaz786]

Dyson never think about prices, they never sell an upright or cylinder for less than £175

 

[parwaz786]

Ps I love the DC01 as I grew up with one, quite a descent vacuum for it's age but the YDK DC01's are loud unfortunately

 

[vintagerepairer]

"Dyson never think about prices, they never sell an upright or cylinder for less than £175"

I think maybe I should rewrite my last message. Dyson think more about the price than you give them credit for. What good would dropping the price do when people are paying their existing prices day in, day out? Prices are only ever dropped when a product is not selling, or if a store wishes to entice shoppers to their premises.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well it worked for Miele - most of their cylinder vacuums from the 1990s were expensive to buy which is where the more compact S4/S4000 came in, able to offer a smaller size, lighter weight and a cheaper cost price. Some may argue and say the S4/S4000 are made with lighter plastics, but I'd settle for an old S4/S4000 than the current S2/S2000 which isn't as well made for the price - but it seems to have been a big hit for Miele since they released it against the same bag capacity fitted S5 and now of course with the S2 taking over the previous S4's pricing niche, the similarly designed S6 has arrived to take the S4's smaller bag and put it into a similarly lightweight body.

Price dropping and producing a vacuum under a fixed price banner are not the same though; franchises such as Currys et al constantly drop prices on old stock Dyson models anyway - but never usually under £150 because of the costs to buy the machines in bulk at the original cost at the time of launch to the market.

Dyson could do a seasonal limited range offer just like they had done with the DeStijl colour editions and could do with a unique exclusive online brand model as opposed to passing it off to larger big box stores to sell on, thus allowing the fixed price to remain fixed.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well yes, it would work in that example, because the vast majority of people buying vacuum cleaners were not buying a Miele cleaner. So they bring out a model at a lower price and it proves to be a popular choice.

Dyson do not have a problem in selling a cleaner at any price, it seems. So, like I suggested, if they did bring one out at a relatively low price, it would on one hand entice some buyers who were previously not prepared to pay the current retail prices, but it also runs a very real risk of attracting those who have always paid they premium price for a Dyson. It is a risky strategy for any company, but the revenue lost from existing customers buying into a cheaper model vs. the increase in revenue gained from selling a cheaper model to a previously unwilling consumer has to be balanced. In this instance, I think Dyson are keeping prices where they are and are doing better out of it than they would by selling a cheaper model.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Franchises

I must say I was always labouring under the belief that Currys was a chain and not a franchise. Is this not so?

 

[sebo_fan]

Depends on how you look at it. By Googling both definitions;

Franchise: A form of business organization in which a firm which already has a successful product or service (the franchisor) enters into a continuing contractual relationship with other businesses (franchisees) operating under the franchisor's trade name and usually with the franchisor's guidance, in exchange for a fee. Some of the most popular franchises in the United States include Subway, McDonalds, and 7-Eleven.

Chain store: One of a series of stores owned by one company and selling the same merchandise.

Kays and Littlewoods are thus chain "stores," or "chain catalogues," selling the same products and with the same page layouts as bit of a bonus.
[this post was last edited: 4/16/2013-11:44]

 

[vintagerepairer]

Yes that's exactly how I understood a chain and a franchise to work. I was just surprised to find that Currys was a franchise as I always thought they were all part of the same company, not each store being owned individually.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well don't take my word for it - I just to choose to see Currys as a franchise - they're not all the same dependent on the market but sell/carry ALL the brands they stock on their website too. That's not to be confused with their "exclusive online" offers though. Some stores I've been to have half the products on display because of other shops around or the area they're located in.

Chain stores like Poundland have continuous stock all of the time, but not always consistent with every store.