Dyson cinetic big ball

[dysonman1]

You guys do realize, don't you, that the Dyson Big Ball HAS a post-motor filter. It's not designed to be washed or cleaned - but there is a filter. Plaster dust will come through the Dyson Cinetc's cyclones, and clog the post motor filter, which is why they say not to suck it up.

As far as the Rainbow, until 1998 there were no filters at all, just water. Plaster dust (and fire place ashes) can't be wet easily by water. However, Rexair made a chemical (similar to Jet Dry for dishwashers) that made the water "wetter" and allowed the machine to pick up these kinds of materials. Dyson has no such thing to allow the Cinetic to be used for lots of fine dust.

 

[dys0nb0y]

it has a hepa filter and the cyclones are designed to separate fine dust not letting go through i had the cylinder model and it does absolutely fine with plaster dust they say not to and i would say not to but its fine as long as you're done over filler plaster dust it should be absolutely fine as my dc54 model did fine

 

[dys0nb0y]

 

[tolivac]

I was sort of thinking that Dyson machine has a post motor-or fixed filter that was not meant to be user replaceable or washable.And whats bad its AFTER the motor so the fine dust plaster or whatever fines will eventually clog the motor fans,coat the motor windings causing them to overheat-then the Dysons fate would be the dumpster unless the filter can be replaced at a vac shop or by a repairman,or even skilled DIY person.Feel this vacuum could have better merit IF that filter was user replaceable.Will stick with my Kirbys,Tacanoy tandem airs,and Royal metal uprights.Won't consider any bagless machine unless its a Water/Filter matic , perhaps the Filter Queen,or even Rainbow.

 

[dys0nb0y]

are you even bothering reading my reply i told you you can use it for plaster dust and i will be absolutely fine it won't go through the cyclone and it wont go to the motor filter it would be absolutely fine.


 

 

[sebo_fan]

Based on just ONE opinion that keeps boosting a brand and its model all the time isn't enough for me to personally fork out so much money to buy the upright in question.

I doubt many would, but you never know....

 

[marcusprit]

It is overpriced but the price will come down,and they will sell in large numbers.

 

[turbo500]

are you even bothering reading my reply

Well that was rude!


 


But if you must know, I did read your replies and still thought it was rubbish. The official word from Dyson is clearly not use the Cinnetic to clean up plaster dust. Just because YOU say it's fine, doesn't mean it IS fine. It is always better to follow the instructions given by the manufacturer for the safety and longetivity of the machine and for your own safety.


 


Clean up plaster dust and void the guaruntee at your OWN RISK.

 

[marcusprit]

I agree.Always abide by the manufacturers recommendations.

 

[marcusprit]

What I will say though. If the cyclones filter down to 0.5 microns or lower you don't get much finer dust than that!

 

[turbo500]

you don't get much finer dust than that!

It seems to me that Dyson are obviously advising AGAINST doing so for a reason. Dyson aren't exactly known for making the flaws of their machines common knowledge, so for them to clearly label it on the side of the machine and not just as fine print in the user guide, it's quite obviously important.

 

[marcusprit]

Yes there must be a reason for it. Anyway I'm quite happy with Dyson I have. 4 months now and the filter is still clean

 

[marcusprit]

BTW are any manufacturers known for making flaws in their machines common knowledge? And all vacuum cleaners I've used have flaws.

 

[sebo_fan]

If the filter is clean, hows the brush roll cover and dust channels? All clean?

 

[marcusprit]

I clean the brush roll and cover frequently

 

[turbo500]

And all vacuum cleaners I've used have flaws

Well, precisely. No vacuum is 100% perfect, it's all about finding what works best for you on balance. It seems some people around here forget that fact fairly frequently.


 


I'm not sure if any manufacturers would make it common knowledge - it wouldn't be clever if you're trying to sell something, would it? But in my experience, Dyson as a company tend to be quite blinkered to the flaws of their machine. Mr. D is very quick to slag off other brands and other styles of vacuum but isn't particularly willing to accept the criticism.

 

[sebo_fan]

I clean the brush roll and cover frequently

Dont have to bother myself with those two things on another brands' uprights where the covers are not see through. I sometimes wonder (other than seeing if anything gets clogged) if manufacturers can really stand by their claims when viewable dust clogs clear hoses, brush roll covers and so forth.

 

[marcusprit]

Haha. Love him or hate him his company are very good innovators.

 

[marcusprit]

You don't clean your brushroll? I regularly cleaned the brushroll on my Felix.
It just takes a second to wipe the cover over on the Dyson. I've not had any issues whatsoever as yet. So no complaints from Marky

 

[sebo_fan]

They are good innovators with some things. Dont get me wrong. Id sooner have a Dyso hand drier in my bathroom if I could justify the price.

But they are not a floorcare company and they have been quite happy to push their design above all else. Which a lot of owners seem to forget.

Whilst I think Dyson can do whatever he wants and whilst this new upright looks and sounds great, the actual proof is in actual ownership. If Dyson can elevate this upright to the same cleanliness standard that Miele have achieved in their surgical hospital graded appliances, then yes, I can see the potential for a non-filter style vacuum cleaner. But for the fact that it has to have some filter on board doesn't exactly scream "new innovation" to me.