Dyson Canisters

[sebo_fan]

Whoops - it wasn't the DC23, it was the City Vac DC26 - sorry! At the time of purchase I wasn't able to get other tools for it. It may have improved now. I found the DC26's main problem was the larger hose - it made managing and in performance, difficult. The whole experience was also fairly expensive for what the DC26 brings to the table. See review if you wish.



http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/vacuum-cleaner/dyson-dc26-city-multi-floor/1566213/

 

[williamr1248]

Dyson canister

Scott,
Many thanks again for clearing the "ball" issue up. I had watched the presentation on one of the home shopping channels and they kept referring to the fact that it was like the "DYSON BALL UPRIGHT" technology but I could not undertand how it would work. I noticed one of the show hosts got it caught going around a corner and when they demonstrated it cleaning high, it is always JUST over their heads.
I also notice that when they empty the bin they NEVER use any real dirt that would naturally go into the air and on eveything in the room in reality.

I think the Dyson has some nice features and I like their tools,high suction but they are not for everyone and sure would not advise one for someone who has allergies or asthma and will be emptying the dust bin.

 

[williamr1248]

Dyson canister

Scott,
Many thanks again for clearing the "ball" issue up. I had watched the presentation on one of the home shopping channels and they kept referring to the fact that it was like the "DYSON BALL UPRIGHT" technology but I could not undertand how it would work. I noticed one of the show hosts got it caught going around a corner and when they demonstrated it cleaning high, it is always JUST over their heads.
I also notice that when they empty the bin they NEVER use any real dirt that would naturally go into the air and on eveything in the room in reality.

I think the Dyson has some very nice features and I like their tools,high suction but they are not for everyone and sure would not advise one for someone who has allergies or asthma and will be emptying the dust bin.

 

[gsheen]

Rob 


 


you say that but judging the condition of the miele's we see in our wrokshop for repair and servicing I think that you will get more dust on your hands trying to remove the miele bag than anything else. Especially if it uses the new material bags, They leak dust like mad. 10 years ago when a miele cam into ort shop whit the paper bags the inside of the machine was clean and clear, Now with the high filtration bags the machines are always filthy and dusty.


 


It does make perfect sence though. Old paper bags a habit of clogging but they did this because they stpped the dust. If you think about it the new bags are high filtraton, meaning they don't clogg asmuch but the only way a bag will breathe easier is by making the pours bigger so they do not clogg. I have yet to see one of these high filtration bags work properly. 


 


Mad about hoovers


If you still think that Miele build quality is better than dysons then you have't seen new miele's, I have seen better quality plastics on entry level Electrolux's and Eureka's. The s5's are always in here for broken switches and hoods, The worst thing is they paint the switches so after a few uses the button looks terrible. 


 


Vintage repairer


 


That trigger feature is so handy when you have a house that is multi floored, Yes I always prefer to use a proper hardfloor nozzle on the hard flooring BUT when doing day to day Joshua clean-ups as we call them in our house( my eldest son) it is a very handy feature when the kida are going nuts supper needs to be done and homework, garden pets carwash ,over time wrk ,, yea the hectic life 


 


sbnhvlvr


Thank you for starting a good thread, Its been a while since I have enjoyed a thread 

 

[madabouthoovers]

Gsheen - do you honestly think Dyson are better quality than Miele? I know that most Dysons are now more expensive than Miele cleaners, but I cannot see how the Miele Hyclean bags make the bag compartment more dirty than a paper bag. Having 2 Miele cleaners myself, an S6 and an S7, both use the genuine Hyclean bags and I dont find the dustbag compartment gets filthy.
Everyone has their own opinions of the vacs they own, and whilst I own more Dyson cleaners than Miele cleaners, I still prefer the Mieles.
Each brand has its plus points, but I still say that the S7510 Miele upright runs rings round the Dyson uprights in terms of build quality and performance. Compare the sole plate on an S7 to a Dyson DC14 (Both current cleaners in 2008 when the S7 was launched) - which one would you say was better built?

 

[gsheen]

Dc14, I own both but compare apples with apples , Compaire the S7 to a dc25 and the dc25 will run circles around the S7, it also weighs half the weight and moves more freely 


 


I own the company that is the appointed service agent for dysn in SA, We hardly ever see a dyson with any body damage. The few we do see have been in extream circumstances, IE hit by the car in the garage, or fell 4 stories. I am not an officiol Miele agent Yet I get so many with broken body's The S7 is prown to breaking the bag door,  and the swivel, I don't think there is a country in the world better suited to testing Vacuums than SA. The level of abuse they get given here by cleaning staff is unrivalled. 


 


 


I too like Miele's but they are not made like they used to be, and I would never ever say that they are better made than a dyson, The Eectrolux Ultra one is a far superior machine to a Miele and much better made, 


 


 

 

[sebo_fan]

I definitely agree with Gareth that the current Miele vacs you can buy now are made of lesser quality - the main bodies and internal parts are made with lighter, cheaper plastics to balance the weight.  However, bear in mind that the HyClean dust bags (and previously the IntensiveClean bags) were both synthetic to cope with the higher motors. It is the same with the Hoover Pure Filt bags made for the Sensory, Telios and Arrianne - even when Hoover stopped selling the Arrianne in the UK, they appeared on the continent with 1700 watts that had tendencies to tear the basic, brown dust bags compared to synthetic bags. I noted the generic Miele paper dust bags used in my much heavier Miele S571 were of no use either due to the higher power of 1800 watts - the synthetic dust bags cope better with the higher power.


 


 

 

[madabouthoovers]

Gsheen, I see, you are a service agent for Dyson, that would explain why you are so in favour of them, and quite right too - I wouldnt expect otherwise, as you have to be seen to be totally loyal to the brand. Each appointed agent has to be 100% brand loyal, I watch lots of youtube vids from different vacuum dealers, and if the franchise is Miele, then Miele are all singing all dancing, and if its a Riccar/Simplicity franchise in the States, then nothing is better than a Riccar. Some dealers go to great lengths to big up their appointed brand, whilst belittling others and I am amazed by some of the tactics used. I love watching the GoVacuum (American company) vids, and as they are big on Miele, they dont have a good word to say about Dysons lol. I'm sure if you watched the guy from GoVacuums giving a Miele demo, you'd say he was talking a load of bull when he berates a Dyson that he is comparing the Miele to. Each Dealer as I say has to be brand loyal, as that brand probably gives the dealer quite a few perks.

 

[gsheen]

Yes I am very brand Loyal, I believe in the brand but I always did even when I worked for the competition, 


 


I do however like many brands of vacuum as a collector 

 

[williamr1248]

Dyson canister

Gareth,
I agree with you about the Miele. I feel just OK about my Miele. It has good suction,very quiet but I don't like it my application because of the short cord,short hose and heavy wand. Mine also started having an odor after the firt few uses.
I like some things about the Dyson. I do not seem to have dust leakage with the Dyson but in my case I cannot deal with the flying dust when it is time to empty and who wants to save dirt and filth in the closet. I also do not care for the short cord and hose on my DC23. It might be just great for some users but not in my particular application with lots of hard floors,carpets and multiple floors.
I would think it would be best suited for a smaller apartment.

 

[madabouthoovers]

Unfortunately most bagged cleaners suffer from bag odour, and even with the charcoal filters, they still smell. Its usually worse when you first switch on for a short while but usually smells better after that. The bigger the bag, the longer the dust has to fester inside it and the worse the smell. I can just imagine how bad the old Kirby shake out bags must have smelt back in the day.

 

[sebo_fan]

Still though, so do the hoses and floor heads - so they're not different than any other brand.

 

[vintagerepairer]

My loyalty in James Dyson and his cleaners disappeared on the day news broke of him moving to production to Malaysia. There are all sorts of reasons sited as to why this was. I have my own opinions. This is where and why I get frustrated at his attempts to solve problems which don't exist, because money has been saved by taking production from the UK and is being spent on R&D to solve none existent problems, simply because Dyson likes to have a whole team of engineers who play at making the world a better place.

 

[williamr1248]

Dyson canister

Gareth,
I have to tell you I appreciate you answering all the questions about the Dysons and I can sure understand and appreciate your loyalty to what you sell.
Now I want to give this new DC39 a try!

 

[sbnhvlvr]

Thanks for all of you feedback, I will be getting the DC39 Animal Ball Caisnter.

 

[floor-a-matic]

Why is there not more Dyson canisters with electric PN instead of turbo PN? Hoover Turbo Cyclonic & XXX VortecCyclonic have exact same Dyson cyclonic technology, but have electric power nozzle which cleans more effectively than turbine PN.[this post was last edited: 7/10/2013-01:27]

 

[sebo_fan]

I think Dyson will have worked out by now that electric power nozzles could be made - but I think it has a lot to do with the fact that most European brands don't offer PN options. It adds weight and so forth, taking away the lightweight reputation that Dyson has also factored into many of the canister designs since the heavy DC02 (I had two of them including a limited edition Antarctica).

Europe also has a knack of producing separate vacuum cleaner ranges so that one sector, or line doesn't interfere with sales of the other. Those looking for a PN would be probably directed to any one of Dyson's light "compact" uprights.

He's changed the way mini turbo brushes are designed with that cassette style attachment and I think it may be a matter of time before a power nozzle is developed, so that it is far lighter than current units.

 

[gsheen]

I have a dc21 with the motor head, Its wonderful but like ryan says, I ould rather buy a dc42 upright than the heavy motorhead, I think the dc37/39 trigger head is very effective,light weight and easy to use. If you have a house with mainly hard flooring and a few rugs a Turbine head is great, If you have mostly carpets then you would buy a upright.

 

[hoove94]

well......

when i had a dc21, i had nothing but problems with the electric hose and powernozzle, they eventually both shorted out and had to be replaced under warranty.
i would go with the dc39, the dc23 is probly going to be cheaper but you get more with the dc39

 

[gsheen]

The dc19/20/29 is my favorite design of dyson canister as they are just so robust. We often get customers bringing them in after 6 or seven years ( 19/20) asking for a service. The first thing I do is open it up infront of them and take out the filter and they look in amazment. " I never knew it had a filter their " they always say. I even know of a few builders who use then mounted ontop of larger drums to suck up building dust as the normal industrial ones just clog up to fast with cement dust.

On the other hand I love the look of the dc11 and dc37/39 They look awesome. I think the Dc37/39 animal is a brilliant vacuum The trigger head is a fantastic piece of engineering and as good if not far better than any of the Euro style Motor driven powernozzles that we get here. Its also the only air driven power nozzle that I have seen that actually grooms the Carpet.