Dyson: Can they really live up to what they say?

[kirby16]

I recently performed a Kirby G4 vs. Dyson DC 25 test. And kirby outweighed dyson in almost every test. And, of course, my opinion is that kirbys are the best. Could i hear some more peoples opinions?

 

[kirbyeureka95]

i think dysons work relatively for the price, and they are some of the best bagless machines. i like my mieles alot better than my dysons, but they either dont have the same features (such as a powerhead) as the dyson and are they same price, or have similar features and cost twice as much

 

[DysonAnimal]

Erm, what "tests" were these? Just sounds like you're trying to stir up a Kirby vs. Dyson battle... wonder which brand the fair-and-balanced-as-Fox-News forum will side with!!!

 

[kirby16]

Suction power, cleaning performnce, easiness to use, (dyson won that one), convenience, and price (dyson won those two.) But kirby won: cleaning performance, suction power, and easiness to use. (its self propeed and the dyson i was using wasnt. But i think cleaning performance is the most importnt.

 

[turbo500]

But i think cleaning performance is the most important...

...agreed! You have to bear in mind that the Dyson is a fraction of the price of the Kirby. In some cases (NOT ALL!), it is true that you get what you pay for. Personally, I only have 2 problems with Dyson - I find emptying and cleaning the filters messy, and the brushroll is utter garbage - it has the deep cleaning power of a worn baby's hairbrush (although I understand the US machines are better for deep cleaning)

 

[DysonAnimal]

The Dyson doesn't need to be self-propelled because it weighs so much less!

Could you share a little more detail about how you've arrived at your conclusions?

 

[DysonAnimal]

Chris - which Dyson brushbar are you talking about? The current upright range uses at least 3 different designs. Ask Jon to show you his Overdrive sometime

 

[kirby16]

@turbo500: Agreed!

 

[turbo500]

Dyson brushroll...

 

[turbo500]

Kirby brushroll...

 

[turbo500]

Now, using common sense, which one of these brushroll's is going to clean better?

 

[DysonAnimal]

Nice pics... what are you trying to demonstrate? Carpet cleaning depends on a number of factors:

- suction
- airflow
- bristle stiffness
- bristle length
- tuft arrangement
- carpet type and pile length/density
- drive system (direct drive, belt, cogged belt, etc)
- rotation speed
- torque

For all these reasons, you can't just post a pic and expect people to be able to make a judgement based on that! Following that logic, I guess an Oreck will outclean the Kirby?

 

[kirby16]

That dyson brushroll is prone to breaking-- The guy at the vac shop told me that dyson brushrolls break real easy, and he cant count how many times he's had to put a new brushrollon a dyson because the it broke. As fo the kirby, on the other hand, has a strong wooden brushroll thats nextto impossible to break.

 

[turbo500]

Actually Jack, the Oreck brushroll, in my experience, is pretty excellent. The Oreck has so little suction so the brushroll has to make up for that and it does pick up surface little pretty effectively. Don't be mistaken though, I still don't like Oreck lol.

As for the 2 pics above, you can clearly see that the Dyson uses very short and sparsely spaced bristles - the Kirby uses longer, thicker and very dense bristles. Like I said, any fool can clearly see which brushroll is going to have better deep cleaning action and better grooming of deeper pile carpet. With all Dysons statistics and impressive use of ever-changing technology, a half decent brushroll seems to have missed them completely. I've seen carpet sweepers that could groom a carpet more than that lol.

 

[DysonAnimal]

Why wood? Were they all out of granite?

When you say "break", how so? A metal axle runs all the way through, so it's not like it snapped in half!

You still haven't answered my previous question about how you arrived at your "test" results...

 

[DysonAnimal]

Well, I guess I'm just a fool, then! How lucky you are to be able to 'see' how well appliances will work. Have you sought work with any vac companies, you could save them a fortune on RDD!

 

[kirby16]

IDK, he just said "break". They probably cracked because theyre made of cheap plastic. Im not in any way doubting that dysons are good vacuums, they just have a lot of design flaws.

 

[turbo500]

Yeh, alright! No need for that! It's just my opinion Jack! You don't have to take criticism so personally, you know. It seems "open discussion" isn't quite that anymore.

 

[kirby16]

@Turbo500(again)Then i guess that oreck TV ad is false advertising.