does the uk care about deep cleaning? WHAT DO YOU THINK

[citroenbx]

I don't think the uk really care's because some of the best selling vacuums can't deep clean

dyson dc01
numatic henry not the motor head
vax 121
dyson dc08
hoover purepower not the one's from the 90s

tell me what you think

 

[sebo4me]

No we a all filthy gits here.

 

[wyaple]

Welp, With Everything in Europe Being Smaller

The dirt must be smaller too, so no need to deep clean.

Tiny, lightweight, low airflow vacs are all the rage. I think 100 CFM will be banned, just like all high power usage motors are being eliminated. Hand-held dust-buster like, 20 watt LION battery machines for everyone!

Bill

 

[turbo500]

It's important to remember that the rise in popularity of cylinder vacuums in the UK directly correlates with the increase in popularity of laminate and wood floors. You've only listed best sellers from the 1990's onwards. Remember, up until the early 90's, Hoover were the best seller, renowned for their deep cleaning on carpets but not much good for a hard floor. Uprights mostly dominate the market.

The early 90's saw the fashion of carpet washing. Vax, Hoover, Electrolux and Goblin all offered multi-function cleaners which, when used regularly to wash the carpet, would remove the deep down dirt left behind by straight suction cleaning.

The start of the decline of bulky multi function cleavers and the rise of bagless also marks the start of the hard floor phase.

So, in answer to your question, I think we do care about deep cleaning. But as fashions and styles have changed, so have our vacuum sales. Nobody has deep, wall to wall, shag pile in this country anymore, it's all low pile, hard wearing carpet and hard floors.

 

[sebo_fan]

Well identified, Chris

"It's all low pile, hard wearing carpet and hard floors."

Which is why the UK has a ton of steam cleaning mops. Not many around back in the 1980s.

 

[vintagerepairer]

At the end of the day we're talking about floors. Potentially always the dirtiest part of any environment. As long as dirt at floor level can stay at floor level and isn't raised, or equally we don't get down to meet it, all should be reasonably well. I care more about surfaces being clean than I do my floor, put it like that. The problem with hard floor is that whilst the lovers of such coverings are praising the virtues of same, they don't realise that their dirt and whatever else is continually airbourne as there's nothing on a hard surface to hold the dirt in place until it can be cleaned away.

In many ways carpets, mats, and rugs act as filters, and as with all filters they get clogged over time. Dry cleaning only serves to remove the bulk of the debris. The carpet holds the rest. That idea may not sit well with some people, but to me I take great comfort in knowing that dirt is being kept out of the air I am breathing.

 

[alexhoovers94]

"Well , With Everything in Europe Being Smaller, the dirt must be smaller too"

That has to be the most American sentence I have ever read!

 

[delaneymeegan]

I'm not sure the average person, regardless of what continent they're on, grasps the concept of "deep cleaning".

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[wyaple]

AlexHoovers94

You do realize that sentence was intended as a joke, right?

Bill

http://www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?30524_49

 

[delaneymeegan]

We'd hope it was meant that way, but......

Some of the CRAP that comes out of some fellow-<span style="text-decoration: underline;">North</span> American's heads, makes one worried ..... and keeps alive those plans to emigrate.

Hey, my passport is up to date.

 

[sebo_fan]

Good point, Benny.

Also, parts of England have beautifully warmer regions with homes that have ceiling fans because they have better weather than we Scots! A ceiling fan is great for allowing central heating to circulate in rooms but it is also a terrible system for dirt to get a chance to fly around much faster than it normally does.

 

[alexhoovers94]

Lol yes I did know you were joking I was just putting it out there haha.

 

[citroenbx]

thanks for your comments guys

 

[godfreys_guy]

Australia is interesting too....

Because we follow the european appliance market more than the American - we have too made a shift towards straight suction and turbo heads - however what is interesting here is that there is a group of people who were exposed through the likes of Electrolux (door to door) and Wertheim to canisters with power brush's and those people will rarely settle for anything less. There is also (from a retail point of view) a swing back towards uprights, driven by Dyson and Shark (prob because the DC54 is a horrific machine).

In Australia there has certainly been a move away from Wall to Wall carpeting towards more hard flooring surfaces - but we still favor plush pile carpets in our home.

Vax has been an interesting development in Australia in recent times as they have introduced around 5 power brush models all retailing under $400 (next cheapest units start around $500/800/1000). They are of course all bagless machines - but that's market driven. Also Miele who when launching their S8 series dropped the power brush, but now with the C3 have launched 2 power brush models at $1199 and $1349 which when compared to the other premiums like Sebo at $1199ish and Sauber at $1599 and $2499 makes the Miele quite a reasonable price point.

Godfreys has also recently launched, and has now sold out until the new year the Vorwerk VK150 - at a price of $2499 bare bones, $3999 complete. Because the thermomix has been such a boom product here - Godfreys are cleverly marketing the Vorwerk as the Thermomix of Vacuums.

 

[delaneymeegan]

WHAT ? !

"...at a price of $2499 bare bones, $3999 complete"

There are vacuums costing THAT much?

 

[turbo500]

delaneymeegan, that's Australian dollars. 3999 AUD is about 2800 USD.

 

[sebo4me]

That makes all the difference then

 

[turbo500]

Paul, $2800 USD is not an uncommon amount to pay for very high end cleaners - Rainbow, Kirby, Filter Queen, Aerus and (I think - correct me if I'm wrong folks) Riccar vacuums can all retail for up to that amount.

Whilst it's almost unheard of the in the UK to pay anything over about £600 tops ($910 USD) vacuums in the US, especially high end vacuums, can retail for a lot more.

 

[sebo4me]

Yes I know. There's one born every minute!

 

[delaneymeegan]

OK, ... OK, ok, ok. right, I mean there is the ASKING PRICE, but no body ACTUALLY pays $3000 to $4000 for a vacuum.................. do they?

I'm just a cheap bastard because, there is no way in HELL I would spend money like that on a single vacuum.

The most I ever spent on a brand, spankin' new vac was in 1993 and that was for the last metal Electrolux, the Ultralux Classic, AND it was also the last one the dealer had. So I got the last of the last. (At that time I had no idea of the significance of that, I just felt like a king with my new lux) I spent like $675. No regrets, wish I still had it, though I've since found a replacement at a fraction of the cost.

In about 1985, I threw money down the drain on a NEW, cool looking , TOL, gray Hoover Dimension 1000. They were nice and quiet, but HEAVY and big. I think I spent upwards of $400 +/-100 ? Fun for a week, but....

Before that I bought, as a kid so my parents bought it for me, a 1980 Sears Best TOL canister vac, then a 1982 TOL Sears Best canister vac, then another Sears Best TOL (variable speed w/wand power switch) canister from 1984. Each costing about $365, or less. No regrets. Wish I had them back.

Other than a few other cheaper, new machines in the $50 to $150 price range, everything else has been used and either came from the curb, Goodwill, or similar. I've owned at least 100 vacs in my life. Wish I had them all back.


But it's just jaw dropping, some of the ridiculous prices posted. One can buy a like new Kirby, Rainbow, Filter Queen, and others for ..... $50, $100, maybe $150 on line. It may, or may Not need a simple clean up/wipe down and polish, but, whatever.

Some people don't know how to do that, I suppose, and have money to burn, so.....

 

[sebo_fan]

Some people are led by marketing promises such as quietness, deep cleaning and so forth too.

Same with buying any appliance I would imagine.

 

[delaneymeegan]

Chris/Turbo500



You state "...Whilst it's almost unheard of the in the UK to pay anything over about £600 tops ($910 USD)..."

I'm just curious, are you saying people would just not go for paying anything more, or are you saying there is no stock or inventory available for people to buy?

Do you have central vacs in the UK?

 

[sebo4me]

My Sebo X4 cost just over £200 and my Miele C3 cost £150. Both do a fantastic job.
There's no need to pay more.

The prices in the US are ridiculous!

 

[turbo500]

are you saying people would just not go for paying anything

Precisely that. The prospect of paying anything over £500 for a vacuum in this country is largely unheard of, with the exception of Kirby and other D2D sale vacs, but even those are cheaper to buy here and are no where near as popular as they are in the US.

The general public would likely laugh you out the door for paying such prices.

The most expensive vacuum currently available on the UK market is the Dyson Cinetic upright at £459.99/$700.15 and even that is considered very expensive.

I have never spent more than £200/$305 on a brand new vacuum and my mother was hesitant to spend over half of that.


 


And no, we don't have central vacs in the UK. I think you can get them, but I've never seen one in person and never actually known of anyone who has one. They'd be very difficult to fit in UK homes.



http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/home-a...ess-vacuum-cleaner-iron-red-10116605-pdt.html

 

[turbo500]

the cheapest vacuum I could find was this. Argos Value cheapo bagged cylinder thing. Very budget store brand. £26.99/$41.



http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/2473185.htm

 

[delaneymeegan]

Wow, that's so cool.  Briton's have the money to spend, but they won't because it doesn't make sense.


 


(North) American's may or may not, have the money to spend, but they apparently will buy over priced vacuums.


 


I was at a vac store the other day and saw Miel's, all in a line.  They all look the same, but in different colors.  Like they're trying to say: 'the decision isn't should you buy a Miel, but rather what color should it be?'


I seem to remember prices in the $600+ range.  I didn't give it much thought, but am now intriqued. 


 


I didn't think central vacs would be big.  Briton's homes tend to have a lot of concrete walls, which are difficult to run pipes.  Central vacs are not a really good idea anyway.  It's not like you're missing anything.   My parents install central vac in their newly built home 30 years ago, and its really been a hassle.  They don't even use it anymore.


 


A quick glance a Miel prices.

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


Sebo quick glance.

 

[delaneymeegan]

 


Similar cheap U.S. vac. 


Frankly, I like Bissell.  I have several floor care products from them that I haven't paid much money for, and they work very good.


 


 

 

[Mike81]

Finland Doesn't care about deep cleaning. We don't have any uprights for sale. Only is Kirby, but it's very rare someone to own a Kirby.
So we have two canister vacuums with full-size powerhead. Those are Electrolux UltraOne QUATTRO and Miele Complete C3 Electro Ecoline. Both cost 499€.

So as a vacuum cleaner enthusiasts this is a ridiculous situation.