CRAIGSLIST allert!

[brandon_w_t]

Early hoover!

Either the picture is distorted, or this may be a pre 105 hoover.



http://southjersey.craigslist.org/atq/3209472532.html

 

[madabouthoovers]

Christ! where has that been for all these years - it looks like its part of a house clearance from an old person thats had it in a shed for decades. Wooden handle like a broom handle as well! Thats really an antique, theres got to be someone who could restore it, but it would take a huge amount of work. I dont think I'd like to try turning it on?

 

[hooverboy81]

Not sure about pre 105

Looks more like a 541. Look at the badge on the front of it. The earlier ones were pretty much always rectangular. This one is curved to mimic the (obviously) circular motor. It also doesn't have a ratings plate/badge that would have been on a "pre Hoover made" motors.Not to mention it doesn't have the handle support arm that the really early ones did. It's a nice Hoover from the early twenties, though. I'd ask the seller for more (and less fuzzy) pictures.

 

[s31463221]

Wow!

I haven't seen one that old in a long time! I agree I would be a little iffy trying to hook it up to full current, but if memory serves that would be an AC or DC motor, so you could hook it up to say a power supply for an HP printer (32 volts DC I believe) to do a quick test and see if it will run or not. I bought an old model 26 Hoover and that's how I initially tested it, otherwise I was too chicken to hook it up straight! That would be awesome though if one of our members would get it and restore it though!

 

[madabouthoovers]

I would be amazed if the motor bearings hadnt seized up, or the brushroll bearings come to that - I wonder if it still has the original belt, highly unlikely as it probably perished years ago. I'd imagine if thats the original cable it will be well perished by now, so dangerous to try operating it without fully inspecting everything first. Someone will buy it, and it would be worth a small fortune if fully restored. I thought myself that its got to be nearly 100 years old!

 

[tolivac]

In the time that vacuum would have been made-there were 32V DC appliances-My Moms Mother had a sewing machine that ran from 32V.And the summer cottage she used-and later I went there-it was wired for 32V.The place was on an island-in Lake Winnepesaukie,NH.When I was a child-we visted the place each summer-the 32V system no longer worked-but I explored the building the 32V generating equipment was in-the "Hit Miss" gas engine and generator were still there.the battery banks long gone.Wiring torn down.A collector would have loved the engine and generator.Can't remember their brands-corroded nameplates.32V lightbulbs act like flashbulbs when connected to 120V-the cottage was rewired during a summer we were there-We were all wiring outlets and running cable-so nice to have REAL lights and no more candles and gas,kerosene lamps.The gas and kerosene lamps did give off a strange but pleasent light.So-I guess its possible that vacuum shown could have run from 32V-also was a common farm voltage in days before rural electrification.A 32V "WinCharger" unit charged a battery bank in the home or barn.that powered the lights and appliances.So--windmills for generating power are not new.Original WinCharger units are VERY valueable!Many have been found and restored-put back to service.Their battery banks can power an invertor-for 120V.

 

[brandon_w_t]

I have fired up machines far worse than that!

Check out my all original 575 when I got it. Plugged it in (after a new cord of course), runs like a charm, very quiet.

 

[hooverboy81]

Hoovers

They don't give up easily...

 

[Real1]

<a name="start_18197.199760">In the time that vacuum would have been made-there were 32V DC appliances-My Moms Mother had a sewing machine that ran from 32V.And the summer cottage she used-and later I went there-it was wired for 32V.The place was on an island-in Lake Winnepesaukie,NH.When I was a child-we visted the place each summer-the 32V system no longer worked-but I explored the building the 32V generating equipment was in-the "Hit Miss" gas engine and generator were still there.the battery banks long gone.Wiring torn down.A collector would have loved the engine and generator.Can't remember their brands-corroded nameplates.32V lightbulbs act like flashbulbs when connected to 120V-the cottage was rewired during a summer we were there-We were all wiring outlets and running cable-so nice to have REAL lights and no more candles and gas,kerosene lamps.The gas and kerosene lamps did give off a strange but pleasent light.So-I guess its possible that vacuum shown could have run from 32V-also was a common farm voltage in days before rural electrification.A 32V "WinCharger" unit charged a battery bank in the home or barn.that powered the lights and appliances.So--windmills for generating power are not new.Original WinCharger units are VERY valueable!Many have been found and restored-put back to service.Their battery banks can power an invertor-for 120V.</a>


 


Nice story, thanks. Those old gas motors were called 'poppers' in the Midwest. They fired only enough to keep the momentum going-barely. I used to take my kids to old-time farm shows and these engines were featured a lot....still running and wired to make lights works and other early appliances. We always got a kick out of listening to them 'pop'....usually there were at least a dozen of them working at once with various displays. I'm sure they were a 'wonder' back then, but no thanks for any part of it now-great historical significance though.

You don't even need the concept now; solar panels up on a roof supply power to an inverter and the inverter with its own batteries supplies 120v or 220v...simplicity itself without any noise or pollution.



 


Kevin

 

[s31463221]

Kevin

I have always heard of those engines called hit-miss engines. I see them at a lot of local festivals around here as well, rather interesting old engines too, but they are certainly neat to see in action. There is a guy who sets up at our local festival and he uses an old hit/miss engine hooked up to a corn meal grinder and he grinds meal for folks who want fresh corn meal! You're right though, they will just about scare you to death when they "pop" off like that!

 

[tolivac]

I would have loved to see that engine on that old 32v genset work.It also had a very large flywheel.no starter-assumed you would spin the wheel by hand to start the engine.Possibly the generator could be "motored" by the batteries to start the engine-a freind of mine who worked on an old Coast Guard ship mentioned the ships engines were started that way.