Central Vacuum - Pistol Grip

[n0oxy]

beam

I would also avoid Beam vacs unless you can still get the adapter to convert them to use bags. Despite what they say, the filter on those will clog fairly quickly and when you empty it, dust goes everywhere. I would avoid anything that does not use disposable bags.
Mike

 

[tolivac]

Mike:I am with you-AVOID bagless central units--emptying several gallons of dust&dirt is no fun!The bag is soo MUCH better-you can change it in your Sunday best and not get dirty!I do have a BEAM unit that came from the trade in pile at the Greenville Sew&vac-was traded in on a BAGGED MD unit!I have used it a few times--have to use my paper bagged "Pig" to clean out the bin and the weighted "drop" filter that is supposed to self clean-it doesn't!

 

[tolivac]

The video of that man cleaning his unit-note when he dumpted the bin at the end-a poof of dust came from the black trash bag!!NO THANKS-Would avoid that unit like a plague-and if I moved to a house that had one of those---would REPLACE it with a bagged MD Silentmaster unit!Who wants to deal with that mess?Who would want to try to grope thru the garbage bag to clean that BADLY placed filter-at least the machine I had to empty you could remove the filter for cleaning or replacement.

 

[n0oxy]

converting beam units

I'm not sure if the adapter is still available and what beam models it works with, but there is an adapter kit that will convert a beam unit to use bags. You remove the supposedly self cleaning filter and then attach the bag adapter to the side you are going to use. There are two other caps that you install in the other side and front utility intake. Once that is done, attach the bag to the spout on the inside and reattach the bucket. Everything now goes in to the bag instead of the bucket, no mess to empty. Once that was done I attached a utility valve to the bag adapter's pipe intake to make it free standing. This was the first central vacuum unit I purchased, I didn't know as much about them as I do now. If there would have been no way to convert it, I probably would have given it away, emptying it was awful.
Mike

 

[vacuumdevil]

Have you considered looking at MD units?



I will say the Simplicity reeker units you should be able to get a good deal on and they're very well made.

I would highly recommend vacuflo.
You can always mix and match the hose to the power unit.

https://builtinvacuum.com/

 

[gregvacs28]

vacuumguy91

 


Is the confusion coming from thinking you have to have your tool set be paired with a motor unit that is made by the same company?  


 


It does <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span>, that's why I say you should have no problems using your Quadraflex or Kenmore power nozzles.


 


Since your home is already plumbed and you have power nozzles; really you just need to find the hose you like and a power unit.  


 


Do you already have inlets on the walls or did the original installer simply put blank covers over them?  

 

[tolivac]

An MD Silentmaster is one of the centrl vacuums in my collection-the BEST out there.The open top bag is slightly messy to dump-the totally enclosed top bag or TruSeal bags are better.I have a bagless Beam unit in my collection was in the trade in pile at the vac place.Can see why it was traded in.MESSY to empty.

 

[gregvacs28]

converting to bagged unit

 


Out of respect for the subject matter herein, I've started a new thread about my experience in converting a CV to use a bag: "Converting a Central Vacuum to use EZ change bags" post no. 37446


 


 


 


Tolivac- here's a video on converting an MD to a closed bag which is much cleaner system, I agree.  I have an MD Flo-Master and use it with a bag. (loving it)


 

 

[tolivac]

Yes,I know about the closed bag conversion-did it for mine.

 

[panasonicvac]

The thing that I don't like about closed bags is they clog more quicker than open bags. Plus if I accidentally sucked something up like a ring, I can always open up and reach in there without having to take the open bag out or having to rip open the closed bag and replace it with a new one.

 

[tolivac]

I haven't had any clogging problems with my closed bags.

 

[ultralux88]

I'm in the process of gathering money to go from my bagless Riccar unit to a bagged MD. Right now I have an RPU-C10 Riccar, 2 motor 240v unit, going to an MD M965h2, another 240v dual motor unit (I have a thing for dual motor units...) largely to go with bags, but I also found there's an even more powerful motor I can use to replace the factory ones with, so it'll really have some suck to it! I have the Riccar P/N too, but I am also getting a Wessek Werk EBK360 to use on my QuickClick hose.

 

[vacuumdevil]

@panasonicvac what are you even talking about? Pictures or videos . I Call Bullshit.

@tolivac thank you!

@ultralux88 that sounds amazing can't wait to see!

 

[panasonicvac]

vacuumdevil

Here's something to clarify, this was based off of my own experiences. Those blue microfilter bags are easier and cleaner to change however, I cannot use them on both of the intake pipes and I cannot use the utility valve. And again (I'm saying this twice now) I've seen these bags loose airflow when they fill up (I assist with my boss on central vac service calls). Plus they're not as big as the white hyperflow bags which means I would change them out more often. Those are the reasons why MD came out with those new tru-seal bags. Now that wouldn't really happen to anyone who uses these like tolivac for example but why would I use those microfilter bags where I can have a hyperflow bag that would hold longer, use both intake valves and utility valve, and I wouldn't have to tear apart the microfilter bag to find some lost jewels? I barley noticed a problem or just slightly with those hyperflow bags loosing airflow on my Silentmaster or anyone else's that I know personaly. That's my two cents.

 

[s_brisowitz]

Kenmore

My grandparents have a Kenmore central vac that they have used since 1977. My grand father installed it back then and we all have been impressed by how it works. That being said, I prefer central vacs where bags are a factor. However they use an Oreck XL21 for most cleaning, given the carpet they have it does just as good as the CV they have. They use the central vac for deep cleaning and for attachments every other week.

 

[royalfan]

@s_brisowitz is that a straight suction Central Vac compared to a vacuum with a brush roller?

 

[s_brisowitz]

Royalfan

No it is not

 

[gregvacs28]

Update

 


Vacuumguy91 any decisions made?  pictures?

 

[crazykirbydude]

I would say Aerus would be your best bet.