Brilliant

[hoover300]

I am rewiring my antique brilliant cleaner, and the wiring on it was very messed up. Only one wire was going into the motor, which pretty much everything tells me is wrong. It also has this weird rubber, metal covered box thing that a wire goes into and comes back out of. Mr. Gasko, could you post a picture of the motor wiring on yours so I have a guideline? Thank you!

 

[johnnyb59c]

you have pics?

show me what you have please

 

[hoover300]

I can Wednesday, its the diamond shaped one in the video I sent ya

 

[johnnyb59c]

video?

when and where did you send it?

 

[hoover300]

Your email, a few months ago when I first got it. Couldn't run it though due to the electrical issues and me not wanting to get shocked or worse.

 

[hoover300]

Wait, just remembered I have a couple old pics here. None of the wiring though, that will have to wait until Wednesday.

 

[dysonman1]

Yes - the "Diamond". I do have one and will post pics very soon.

 

[johnnyb59c]

ok-

I remember now.

 

[dysonman1]

Stupid vacuum land glitch turns my pictures to the side when I post them from my iPhone

 

[madman]

What a neat old machine. The motor will only have two wires going to it, are you having trouble routing the wires, or what?

 

[johnnyb59c]

wow-

never seen anything like that before. looks different than the video

 

[hoover300]

Looks like mine is different, or has had this box added on afterward. I think it was after, as the terminals had tape, the wiring was super confusing, and it has had at least one screw replaced, indicating it was taken apart at some point. It only had one wire going in, had 3 coming out of the stator(2 of which were brush wires). One of the brush wires(not the brushes themselves) came right out of the stator as well, so there are only 2 left. I may have to have it rewound. What might this box thing do? I has 2 wires coming out, and one terminal soldered to it. The inside is like a rubber insulation.

 

[madman]

Honestly I'm still confused. The box could be a suppression capacitor added later, or some weird thing to make it a two speed motor. Not sure. The box doesn't seem to have any mounting that I can see in the picture.

 

[hoover300]

It does

A screw and spacer on one side, and it bolts under the motor on the bolt-peg for the other. It had writing on it at one point, but that went away when the vacuum started to rust. The screw doesn't seem in place though, as the only other place where actual screws are used are for the switch mount. Otherwise it is bolt pegs and nuts.

 

[dysonman1]

People didn't really have radios during the 'teens' (1910 - 1920) when that was a new machine. So I don't think it's a radio static suppressor. Is your machine rated at 120 volts? There were many farms that used 32 volts then, could it have been a voltage converter? Also, half this country used DC and the other half used AC. it's possible it's an AC - DC converter.

 

[hoover300]

Possibly

It is rated for Ac 110.

 

[madman]

It can't be a voltage converter, per se. Meaning it is not big enough to be a transformer. Though, it would be some kind of wiring device to 'convert' voltage by rerouting the field and brush wires... or something, idk.