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preston

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Hi everyone. I’ve recently been bitten by the electrolux bug. But I’m realizing the older ones like the tow I have, the Silverado (I think) and the golden jubilee don’t have the best filtration. Is there a way to make it better? I’ve found some HEPA c type bags., is that as good as it gets? Is there a way to add a after motor filter without making it look like I’ve added one haha.

Thanks
 
I don't have allergies so I don't worry too much about filtration but I understand that for others, it's a pretty serious thing. That said, I find the aftermarket four-layer paper filter bags do a fine job of keeping the bag compartment fairly clean. I'm sure the HEPA bags would be a nice upgrade if you're into trying to maintain a dust-free cleanroom type of environment in your home but it's not really my thing.

I don't know about the canisters but there are optional foam filters available for the (Discovery/Epic/Genesis/etc. twin motor uprights. My Genesis LXe had one at the bottom of the bag compartment. It was in rough shape so I decided to replace it and the best deal I found online was a five-pack, so I retrofitted my Discovery II as well. It's been a couple of years and I still haven't dug my Discovery Plus out of the barn to put one in there as well. That said, I do have a little bit of a reservation about filters in that they cut into airflow a little bit, even when they're pristine and clean, but especially as they get clogged with dirt, so they're a two-edged sword in the sense that it makes a low-maintenance machine just a little more high maintenance as it introduces one of the major disadvantages of bagless machines.
 
I was looking at the Aerus on line supplies page last month. They do sell charcoal foam filters designed to be placed 8n the bottom of the bag compartment to reduce odor. They can be used in any model taking the c bag but will be most effective in the models from the 1205 on as those have the suction coming in at the bottom of the bag compartment. The older models such as L, G, AF, R, S, AE, E, LX, LXI and earlier have a fully perforated bag compartment so those filters won’t do much for those models.

As far as after filtration goes the E, AE, and XXX and maybe the LX all had after filtration and I imagine you could buy some sort of modern filtration substrate in bulk and make your own to fit.

The Silverado and the Golden Jubilee will certainly benefit from the charcoal filters and they should work perfectly in those machines.

I try to use the genuine Electrolux 4 ply bags when I can. For a while they made bags called iota that were supposed to be micro filtration then I think they changed the name to germ grabber. Sometimes I’ll see the iota or germ grabber bags on eBay. Not sure if the current Aerus Home Solutions bag is equivalent or an even better version of the iota or germ grabber bag since those products were discontinued at the time they changed to the home solutions bags. Apparently the current home solutions bags are only 2 ply...but they are supposed to be a more advanced type of filter paper than the old 4 ply bags. Personally I don’t think the filtration paper on generic bags is going to be as advanced filtration as genuine bags...likely it’s an old version of the genuine bags.
 
The Germ Grabber bags were the same as the standard 4-ply bag, the name was just a gimmick. The IOTA bags were their very best...
The current blue bags are absolute crap, go with the Envirocare for paper or the VAC (Vacuum America Clean) bags for HEPA.
There is no way to add an after filter to one of those metal body machines other than building something to fit in the blower port. The only thing that would get past the bag with one of those fantastic charcoal filters would be the carbon dust from the motor, and a negligible amount at that...
 
The blue bags are supposed to perform better than the 4 ply bags...or so they say right on the bag. Why do you dispute this? I know they are only 2 ply...but I think the 2 layers are of a better quality than what was used on the 4 ply design.

Also I think the bags made for the perfect knock off version are the cloth hepa type but not sure.

But for the most part, I’ve always felt the regular 4 ply bags do a great job...having always used genuine ones in my Electrolux for 25 years now, the bag compartment barely has any dust reside on it at all and I’ve never cleaned it or really needed to.

Jon
 
The genuine blue bags say they filter better because of ine word: marketing.

Would you buy a bag that you knew leaked dust?

I tried using them and they either leaked dust into the motor or the paper ripped off of the cardboard collar due to the suction of the machine.
 
Let me make sure we are on the same page here:
Are you referring to the Home Solutions genuine Aerus/Lux blue bags? If so, I am referring to the blue bag made by evacuumstore that is NOT an Aerus/Lux product but their own unique product.

The Aerus/Lux bag is paper, the evacuumstore bag is cloth. The evacuumstore product does have the collar glued on but, luckily, I have never had any separation.
 
I've Particle Tested Three Type C Bags



0.3 um Results:
DVC 4-Ply Paper = 8400, V.A.C. HEPA = 1650, Perfect HEPA = 370

So the 4-ply paper is relatively lousy and the best is the "Perfect" brand HEPA.

BTW, if you filter the exhaust (I've tried), you may manage to reduce the non-toxic carbon emissions a bit, but you will lose airflow and cause the motor to run somewhat hotter.
 
I don't like the Aerus Bags. Their claim is better filtration than the 4 ply.....I always bought


genuine for my Electrolux's, but when I tried these, no way were they better. I  buy DVC


Brand 4 ply filter bags that work great.......No dust in the bag compartment.......You can


find a case of 100 on ebay for around $40 to $50 with  free shipping......


 


Just as a note, I actually called Aerus and sent them an example. They did call me back


thanking me for my concern and sent me a new box of 24, which had the same problem......


 


PSS Make sure the DVC brand bags say 4 ply, it will say so on the bag.....you can also find


nos Surething and Germgrabber on Ebay.......


 


Sincerely,


 


PR-21


Bud
 
I’ll have to keep an eye out for some of the perfect HEPA bags. Not concerned about the motor carbon but I do have allergies. It’s hard loving the old vacs and Delong with old filter tech...
 
If you want the best filtration from an Electrolux, you're gonna need a plastic bodied canister. Those have an after filter on them. Pair that with the HEPA bags and you've got yourself a winner.
 
Perfect brand Type C Hepa bags have been discontinued

I researched that about a year ago.


 


Total bummer.  I guess V.A.C bags will follow suit in the years to come as demand goes down over time. 


 


Hopefully not. 
 
On the comparison test above I wonder how the blue Aerus home solutions bags perform to compare. If they are the worst I won’t use them. I just recently picked up 47 of them for $5 at a Habitat for Humanity store. I’d really like to see some real results rather than someone’s “opinion” of their performance. I got the vacuum too. The bag compartment is remarkably clean though the vac had a germ grabber bag in it, but the previous owner likely donated all those blue home solutions bags with the vacuum as everything was together with it but oddly they sold me the bags separately.
 

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