centralsweeper63
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What do you think the best vacuum is in any way you find fit.
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cheesewonton
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Probably the finest canister vacuum ever made by any company is the Lux 1R D820. Built like a tank, silent running ( quieter than a Miele ), huge airflow, outstanding filtration their nice feeling woven cloth covered vinyl hose and a surprisingly good power nozzle, the Ze3. Replace the original hose with the power nozzle cord clipped to the outside with the later K35 hose that has the wiring internal to the hose and you have the pinnacle of canister vacuum development.
For a modern canister vac still in production it is hard to beat the Kenmore 600 Series. Value for money nothing beats it. You are not going to get more cleaning power or utility spending another grand on a German vacuum. If you know how to take care of the Kenny, meaning only use genuine Kenmore brand HEPA Style Q bags, replace the foam pre motor filter with the good CF-1 filter, change filters on schedule and be gentle rewinding the cord and storing the hose it will last as long as any Miele or Sebo canister. I have Kenmore canister vacs going back to the late 1940s, at least one example of all their different canister bodies ( not every model or configuration but every basic body ) except two that I know of from Westinghouse in the 1950s and can say from experience taking them all apart that the 600 is better made than any prior Kenmore canister. Materials, fit and finish are all much better than anything from the past. It is a well thought out design with some clever convenience features. Kenmore hit one out of the ballpark with the 600 Series.
For a modern canister vac still in production it is hard to beat the Kenmore 600 Series. Value for money nothing beats it. You are not going to get more cleaning power or utility spending another grand on a German vacuum. If you know how to take care of the Kenny, meaning only use genuine Kenmore brand HEPA Style Q bags, replace the foam pre motor filter with the good CF-1 filter, change filters on schedule and be gentle rewinding the cord and storing the hose it will last as long as any Miele or Sebo canister. I have Kenmore canister vacs going back to the late 1940s, at least one example of all their different canister bodies ( not every model or configuration but every basic body ) except two that I know of from Westinghouse in the 1950s and can say from experience taking them all apart that the 600 is better made than any prior Kenmore canister. Materials, fit and finish are all much better than anything from the past. It is a well thought out design with some clever convenience features. Kenmore hit one out of the ballpark with the 600 Series.
royalfan103
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I guess my go to for a modern "best vacuum" would be a Sebo/Windsor upright. I've been thinking about getting one for my mom and those have been really appealing to me lately. Especially since I've seen them everywhere in commercial environments. My Windtunnels are no longer being made and I guess a Sebo/Windsor upright would be the best modern equivalent to such. The blue color on the Windsors is really apealling to me!
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cheesewonton
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Stick with the simple G series. The automatic height adjuster that comes with the X series can be frustrating. It is slow to figure out a height, gets confused going from carpet to hard floors or vice versa and if you have large objects to clean up like spilled cereal, leaves or something a pet dragged in you can't over ride the automatically set height on the X to raise the nozzle. The X snowplows larger debris. With the G just turn the manual height adjuster to 4 and go. Sometimes simple really is better.
panasonicvac
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Central vacs get my vote, preferably a bagged system. I know they're not for everyone but I couldn't live in a home without one. For an upright or canister, I like the professional commercial grade ones from either SEBO or Lindhaus the best.
royalfan103
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Yeah, the G series is what I’m familiar with. The Windsor is the closest to that.
panasonicvac
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I definitely agree on the colors the older Windsors used to have. I don't like the newer colors as much. Either an ESSENTIAL G4 or G5 would be as close since one of the colors is still the same. They also just recently released a new G4 in black, reminds me of the colors the old Century 400 U-VAC had. But I'd recommend visiting your SEBO dealer and try out every upright to see which one you'd like the best. My favorite would be the AUTOMATIC X4.
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royalfan103
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Lucky me, I have a Sebo dealer just a few minutes away from me
!cheesewonton
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Windsor wants two to three times the price for repair parts than Sebo charges. Stick with a Sebo brand model. Example, the gray Sebo nozzle cover on a G4 sells for around $46 on the Sebo website while Windsor charges something like $160 for the exact same part only molded in blue plastic with WIndsor branding on it.. Same mark up for everything else. Windsor is not a good value and I say this as someone who has a Sensor S12 in the closet.
royalfan103
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Then I’m just gonna settle for a Sebo G series. Those are what I’m most familiar with in the Sebo world. Planning to save up some money for one so my family doesn’t need to rely on me for grabbing vacuums from my room.
panasonicvac
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One thing to note about the G models that I think is a design flaw, be careful to not let the motor get too hot. What happens if you do is that the filter exhaust cover can get wrapped overtime and not stay on anymore, I own a G1 and mine needs a replacement. The thing that sucks is mine is teal and the only color replacement I can get for it is grey. That's one of the reasons why the G models aren't my most favorite, still love them but they wouldn't be my first choice from SEBO.
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Absolute Rainbow
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Dyson V16 is crippled at launch, out of the box, but once it's fixed, it sweeps the competition through both practical performance and truly innovative technologies. I agree with @Vacuum Facts, choose the V16 and is also angry as Dyson's now finally stupid enough to overlook the real problem. (It's not the fault of the cleaner head, unlike some other reviewers out there wrongly claimed and/or presented. What the hell were Dyson's internal management doing!?) Gen5 is technically a close second but is the safer bet, because it has no problems with anything except for maybe the head wheels or the hair tangle.
cheesewonton
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There have been multiple changes in the G series since the G1. Our custodial team at the place I just retired from used Windsor Sensor S12s which is a G4 with a slightly more powerful motor and a grounded cord. They would run them all day every day and I never saw the filter covers warp, and I was looking at their vacuums. I have a Sensor S12 and no problems with it getting hot.
panasonicvac
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Only the bag housing got redesigned and eliminated the bypass valve, that's basically the only changes they did. I asked my friend John who was the CEO at the time about it when they were being introduced here and confirmed it once I finally saw one in person. It was about time because having the handle catch on the bag housing makes a HUGE difference. The handle would pop out on both my G1 and my Kenmore Professional 12 that's basically an X1. Anyways, you'll notice that these two for example had their filter covers replaced.
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Best is definitely a central vac. Nothing beats it in terms of raw power.
But for a non-CV it's a tie between the Sebo Airbelt D4 and the Lindhaus HF6 for me. Leaning more toward the Sebo because of the handle controls and the hose is much nicer than the electric hose that comes with the HF6 (which might actually be discontinued at this point unfortunately). However as much as I do still love the Sebo ET-1/2 on the D4 I've come to prefer the Lindhaus PB12/14 that would come on the HF6.
But for a non-CV it's a tie between the Sebo Airbelt D4 and the Lindhaus HF6 for me. Leaning more toward the Sebo because of the handle controls and the hose is much nicer than the electric hose that comes with the HF6 (which might actually be discontinued at this point unfortunately). However as much as I do still love the Sebo ET-1/2 on the D4 I've come to prefer the Lindhaus PB12/14 that would come on the HF6.
SeboU1
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After having experienced most brands, I would say that Sebo is the best. The X4 does everything well for me, and I have not had any issues with the automatic height. With the additional extension hose and optional attachments, the X4 does everything I need from a vacuum, of course I have a choice between many other brands. I recently got to experience the Lindhaus Healthcare Pro and it’s not bad but the Sebo is better. The Lindhaus feels mostly well made, except for the hose and wand. The hose handle is very poorly designed, and a minor complaint is that the wand needs to be slightly extended to fit the dusting brush. Overall the Lindhaus is also a great vacuum that needs better attachments and cloth hepa bags. From my experience with the current premium brands I would rate them as follows: 1. Sebo, 2. Lindhaus, 3. Miele. I definitely wouldn’t even consider Riccar at this point.
panasonicvac
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There are synthetic cloth bags available for the Lindhaus along with a HEPA filter. But other than that, I do agree about the hose and I can see where you're coming from on the accessories. Nonetheless, I think the Lindhaus is still the best upright I've ever used. And I'd say the X4 is the second best, I would however buy one over the Lindhaus if they were still selling one in spring green. Love that color! Plus I'm not too crazy about white, it's one of if not my least favorite colors. I like the pastel mint color that's on the X7 but I don't feel like it's worth buying one over the X4. I would if it didn't had the BOOST feature. I wish SEBO hadn't discontinued the red X7 cause that one doesn't have the BOOST feature and the headlight. SEBO is currently my favorite and Lindhaus is my second favorite. Wish I could say Miele would be my third favorite but I'm not liking where they're heading currently so I'd say Tacony has that honor for now.
cheesewonton
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The Diamante and its commercial twin do not have a synthetic HEPA dust bag available from Lindhaus or the aftermarket. Paper only. You can, however, use a Kenmore Style O synthetic HEPA dust bag in them.
I have a Windsor Sensor S12, 350 Mechanical, 370 Comfort and C3.1. I love the build quality and durability of Sebo vacuums but every one I own starts to loose airflow and have difficulty cleaning the pet hair in our carpets when the bag is a bit past half full. I have never filled a bag before replacing it because the cleaning power dies off so much, and all of these are clean with fresh filters and new brush rolls / brush strips as the case may be. My humble Hoover Hushtone and Lindhaus Aria Elite canister will both pack the bag nice and full without any noticeable reduction in cleaning power. Same for our Kenmore 600.
