Best Bagless Vacuum

[vacuumalex]

Hey Guys,
My friend is looking to buy a new bagless upright vacuum cleaner. I'm not into bagless vacuums,so I don't know much about them. I much prefer bagged models, but he's bent on having a bagless. What do you think is the best bagless vacuum currently on the market. Also do you think that Dysons are what they are all cracked up to be? Are they worth the $500.00 price tag?
Thanks a bunch!

Alex

 

[retardturtle]

dysons are over priced and over engineered...but i do admire the ddm motor.

id say a good used hvr windtunnel...or new one will do the trick..not the s/p mdl...from what ive seen at the shop the under $200 bagless w/t are dam hard to beat

 

[vacman117]

hmmmmm

I do not like Dysons. I have had two of them and they got sent back. I did not like them at all. I have heard that the Hoover Whisper is an ok machine though. Or the new Eureka Enviro Vac. Both priced reasonably

 

[vintageroyal611]

Chase, I must disagree with you. The reason your dysons didn't work well on your freize rugs is because the Dysons you had were made for cleaning the low pile carpet in the UK. The new Dyson air muscle was made to clean all types of American carpeting. Its designed to go deeper into the carpeting yet still be easy to push. Plus the fact the brushroll lifts up to clean bare floors makes it better then any other upright for floors. The Eureka EnviroVac is no different then any other bagless vacuum. You have a low efficency cyclone (a cyclone that doesnt taper downwards to form a smaller diameter.) the fluff and hair is thrown to the outside while the dust and air goes into a filter which clogs just like a bag. On a Dyson the air goes into the low efficency cyclone and enters the shroud which keeps and crumbs or fine air from going into the high efficency cyclones. Then it enters the 7 cyclones then goes into the pre motor filter. This process allows only clean air to enter the filter and the vacuum maintains its power unlike the EnviroVac which will clog as soon as you push it across your rugs. The only vacuum that has a system like dyson's is the Hoover Platinum Series bagless upright. So these are the only two bagless vacuum that works properly. But at the prices of the Hoover you can get a Dyson which doesnt tear apart the rugs. Even though I love my Hoovers I must say the new ones are no where near as good as the Concept series. So before looking over the dyson just try it. I have found everybody who tries one (who isn't a vacuum collector) loves them. Just ask anybody that owns one.

 

[williamr1248]

Best Bagless Vacuum

I am not a bagless lover but if it's a bagless machine I would have to vote for the Dyson. Anyone considering a Dyson should try one out before buying. Mine is very heavy to lift and the attachments have good suction but are not easy to use. My Dyson is too aggresive on my carpets,but I do think it is the best bagless I have used and the easiest to empty.

 

[beerad]

get a good used Filter Queen.

In my experience of using and reparing any bagless vacuum, I would say one word..."DIRTY".
I would suggest an older model Filter Queen. She can get one for between 200 and 300 dollars from ebay...or even craigslist.

 

[vintageroyal611]

Brad,

The Filter Queen is no different than the EnviroVac. The outside is a low efficency cyclone, then above is the cellulose and medipure filter. It will clog with dust because it still have the filter. Go to any Filter Queen in your collection, pick up the cone and you will see that the cone is covered in a fine layer of dust. It worked great in 1947, but it became outdated with the invention of the Cyclon. The Cyclon was James Dyson's first machine. It was sold only in Japan under the G-Force name. Only 2 are still known to exist. One owned by James Dyson himself and the other is now in the Tacony Vacuum Historical Center. It had instant tool conversion and was actually the first vacuum in the world that had onboard tools. It actually came before the Regina Housekeeper. But in nationally sold machines it was the Housekeeper. The Cyclon was seen on "Tommorow's World", a UK television series, going up against a Hoover Junior on Flour. The Junior was shooting out dust at Kieran Prendiville as it clogged. But the Cyclon took in everything and left a spotless carpet. And also, it is simply a fact, that a Dyson has more water lift and air watts than ANY machine that Health-Mor Industries has EVER produced.

 

[beerad]

Hey Matt..

Thanks, I learned alot form your sharing.

 

[vintagehoover]

Hi Matt,

you're slightly mistaken about the Cyclon/ G-Force machines.

Beginning production in August 1983, the Cyclon was indeed the first application of James Dyson's dual cyclone technology, but it was manufactured by Zanussi, and sold in the UK through the Klene-eez catalogue. They made 500 in total, and I'm actually aware of 3 left in existance; James Dyson has one, there's Tom Gasko's one, and there's at least one other, which resides in the 'Products and Samples' room of a vacuum cleaner manufacturer.

The G-Force was made under licence in Japan by Apex Inc. from 1986. Coming with a £2000 pricetag, it was largely similar to the Cyclon, but had a manual height adjustment on the floorhead. I believe G-Force continued into the early 1990s.

It was the royalties from G-Force sales which provided Sir James with the means to begin the development and manufacture of his first Dyson cleaner, the DC01, in 1993.

Here's a photo I took of the G-Force in the Science Museum, London. There's also one in the Victoria and Albert Museum in London.

 

[ohio_tuec]

Wow, thanks Jack. The only other place I've ever seen a picture of a G-Force is on the Dyson website. I actually like the appearance of it better than later Dyson models. At that time, the only bagless machine we had (or would have for years to come) in the states was the Amway CMS-1000, which evolved into the ClearTrak. Then came the Fantom Thunder.

 

[vintagehoover]

I've just double-checked in 'Against the Odds', James Dyson's autobio:, the G-Force sold for £1200, not £2000. Also, he claims that as the book was being written (first published in 1997), G-Force sales were worth £12m a year, which shows how long it was made for...

 

[vintagehoover]

The Truth about Tomorrow's World...

The Tomorrow's World demo of the Cyclon created quite a stir in the industry at the time - not because of the new technology, but because of the blatant cheating the producers employed to ensure the Cyclon won!

What's wrong with this picture? Here's a clue - it should be obvious to anyone familiar with the 'Hoover Principle' of cleaning a carpet...



As a side-note, and myth-making aside, the Cyclon didn't leave the carpet 'spotless', either. There's a very obvious track of dust left behind...

 

[seamusuk]

Id bet....

A Certain person got the TW producers to "adjust" the performance of the Junior.....

Kinda typical really....

 

[rolls_rapide]

Tomorrow's World

Do my eyes deceive me, or is the Hoover Junior's 'Height Right' lever pulled back to the highest pile setting for a low to medium pile carpet?!?

 

[rolls_rapide]

Science Museum Photo

Lovely picture of my favourite cleaner, the Electrolux 'Trilobite'.

A fine machine to use when you are too warm and tired to push a conventional machine around during these lazy Summer days!

 

[bagintheback]

Bagless Vacuum

I have only two, and I like both. One of them is the Hoover EmPower and the other is the Bissell Lift-Off Bagless. They both clean well, but the Bissell has to have the filters cleaned almost every use. The EmPower is very nice and powerful and really grooms the carpet.

 

[vintagehoover]

Rolls_rapide - Congrats, you got it! The Junior's cruising along on the highest possible setting...it's not even in contact with the floor!

Not really a surprise, then, that the Cyclon "won".

As I say, the industry at the time were not fooled by this test, and I believe that the Tomorrow's World producers were blamed for rigging the test. If the Junior had been set correctly, the results would have been a LOT closer, and that doesn't make for good, dramatic television.

As far as I'm concerned, the Cyclon plays an important enough role in vacuum history without the results of this rather stupid, pointless test. No one ever said the Model O was a brilliant cleaner, either!

 

[vintageroyal611]

Thanks for the info Jack, I should have checked my facts a little closer.

 

[eurekaprince]

Try the Kenmore Progressive Bagless Direct Drive

Consumer Reports has highly rated both the bagged and bagless versions of the blue Kenmore Progressive upright for a few years now. They even rate it better than any Dyson - primarily because of excellent carpet cleaning produced by that fantastic belt-less brush roll designed by Panasonic. This brush roll is really cool - the motor is actually inside the roll!

The hose is nicely placed on this machine and won't tip the unit when used for tool cleaning. There is also an on-board mini turbo nozzle for stairs.