Bagged VS Bagless
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hi-loswitch98
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I agree with most of the points stated in your review, however I do prefer mine bagged. It saves cleaning the container & filter every time.
I agree with most of the points stated in your review, however I do prefer mine bagged. It saves cleaning the container & filter every time.
sebo_fan
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Thanks.
To be honest the more I use it, the more I'm less inclined to wish I had a bag conversion for it. I think its down to its power bands. It seems to take a lot for the bagless bin to fill up and ever so quiet in use.
To be honest the more I use it, the more I'm less inclined to wish I had a bag conversion for it. I think its down to its power bands. It seems to take a lot for the bagless bin to fill up and ever so quiet in use.
eurekaprince
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I definitely prefer bagged vacuums to bagless. Once I suck up dirt and hair and other crud from a dirty surface, I never want to see it again. I could not imagine having to remove clinging hair from the inside of a plastic vacuum bin. And if you don't have a garage or backyard where you can dump the dirt in a garbage bag, you are faced with dust clouds inside you home.
Besides bagless Dustbusters and stick vacs, the only reason I could fathom for owning a bagless vacuum would be the smell caused by pet hair. Though I don't own a cat or dog, I hear that accumulated pet hair in a vacuum bag can create a very smelly bagged vacuum in the closet.
Besides bagless Dustbusters and stick vacs, the only reason I could fathom for owning a bagless vacuum would be the smell caused by pet hair. Though I don't own a cat or dog, I hear that accumulated pet hair in a vacuum bag can create a very smelly bagged vacuum in the closet.
sebo_fan
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In my experience, both bagged and bagless vacs get smelly with pet hair. The filter on board can only do so much - the reality of the pet hair is that the oils and associated gunk gets stuck to the coiled hoses of most vacuums, plus the floor heads, plus any cleaning tool that may be used in addition to the main usage of the machine. Also the main suction channel from the floor plate/brush bar on route to the bag.
So many owners fail to recognise that.
So many owners fail to recognise that.
eurekaprince
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Interesting about the oils in pet hair. I guess the benefit of using bagless vacs would be the ability to wash the dirt bin and related cyclone modules. But you are still left with smelly tools and air ducts.
I wonder if special "pet odour bags" would help reduce the smell in bagged vacs. There must be some material that could be designed to handle the sticky oily pet hair better than conventional bags...Miele? Sebo? Are you reading this?
I wonder if special "pet odour bags" would help reduce the smell in bagged vacs. There must be some material that could be designed to handle the sticky oily pet hair better than conventional bags...Miele? Sebo? Are you reading this?
sebo_fan
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In my experience, both SEBO and Miele dust bags have good filtration, but it is never enough to absolutely contain the scent of pet hair odour. The bags with both brands contain the scent enough but then there's the rest of the vacuum that has to be purged -which not many owners tend to do.
eurekaprince
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Thank you Nar.....very enlightening to hear your experience dealing with pet hair. I guess a real, innovative "Pet Hair Animal Cat and Dog" vacuum would have revolutionary ducting, tubes and tools treated with some surface treatment that would minimize the absorption of pet odours.
Maybe pet hairs should only be removed by a wet-dry Shop Vac that can be washed?
Maybe pet hairs should only be removed by a wet-dry Shop Vac that can be washed?
sebo_fan
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It would be good to have a vacuum that has a built in, removable inner layer of suction air flow plastic that owners can take out to clean and then install back in. Same could be applied to the hose, but I doubt brands will ever be able to do that, never mind offer it.
Maybe a wet and dry is the answer but the floor heads would still have to be washed through for any "sticking" pet hair.
Maybe a wet and dry is the answer but the floor heads would still have to be washed through for any "sticking" pet hair.
sebo_fan
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“Not only do the bagless models have more power, but they will also save you quite a few trips to the store and the closet…”
Well maybe that holds true in the U.S, but these days in Europe and UK with the new EU law limiting vacuum cleaner power, I can't say that I would change over automatically to bagless with newer lower energy efficient motors. In my experience, some of the new models with claimed lower motors are rubbish compared to the stronger, longer bands of power from old.
It isn’t the actual lower motors that are fault though but the brands who have made design adjustments to the soleplate for increased suction that often doesn’t consider the owner who has to push a much heavier upright across a carpet.
As for saving oneself “a few trips to the store,” well, that hasn’t actually been proved. I doubt bagless vacs save many people going to the store given the amount I see on a weekly basis dumped at recycling sites. They’re not saving anything for a family who buy a cheap bagless vac, only to dump it a few weeks/months later given on the cheap cost prices of some models as well as parts that are far too difficult to clean out, in order to last longer.
Well maybe that holds true in the U.S, but these days in Europe and UK with the new EU law limiting vacuum cleaner power, I can't say that I would change over automatically to bagless with newer lower energy efficient motors. In my experience, some of the new models with claimed lower motors are rubbish compared to the stronger, longer bands of power from old.
It isn’t the actual lower motors that are fault though but the brands who have made design adjustments to the soleplate for increased suction that often doesn’t consider the owner who has to push a much heavier upright across a carpet.
As for saving oneself “a few trips to the store,” well, that hasn’t actually been proved. I doubt bagless vacs save many people going to the store given the amount I see on a weekly basis dumped at recycling sites. They’re not saving anything for a family who buy a cheap bagless vac, only to dump it a few weeks/months later given on the cheap cost prices of some models as well as parts that are far too difficult to clean out, in order to last longer.
Bagged for me.
Reason:
+ better air flow/suction
+ quieter and no high pitched scream
+ quality fabric bags last very long time
+ hygienic to change the bag
+ minimal filter maintenance
I have to admit, that the bagless was more "fun" to use (I could see the dirt it picked up).
Reason:
+ better air flow/suction
+ quieter and no high pitched scream
+ quality fabric bags last very long time
+ hygienic to change the bag
+ minimal filter maintenance
I have to admit, that the bagless was more "fun" to use (I could see the dirt it picked up).
I like bagged and bagless vacuum but they both have is there advantages and disadvantages bu I think I am more of a bagless person as they maintain there suction and air flow for longer but only certain bagless vacuums as quite a lot aren't very good.
vacuumlover
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Bagged all the way for me 
sebo_fan
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I like bagless - or rather, something without a bag but it depends on the kind of concept or format - after all I've always had one or two cordless hand held dust busters kicking around such as Black & Decker dust busters. I've owned bagged hand helds like the fab vintage Dirt Devil handy vacs, but for quick pick up on dirt, it's a cordless dust buster all the way. So handy for having quite literally to hand.
my preference
I definitely prefer bagged vacuums. It's much easier to just toss a bag than to have to clean out the dirt cup, and you end up having to deal with dirty filters in most cases as well. As far as the lower power motors that are now used in Europe, older vacuums from the 50's and 60's used lower power motors and cleaned very well. This may force manufacturers to design their vacuums better.
I definitely prefer bagged vacuums. It's much easier to just toss a bag than to have to clean out the dirt cup, and you end up having to deal with dirty filters in most cases as well. As far as the lower power motors that are now used in Europe, older vacuums from the 50's and 60's used lower power motors and cleaned very well. This may force manufacturers to design their vacuums better.
sebo_fan
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The reality is that very little is being redesigned by all brands. Only a few have changed fan impellers or motors to increase power but remain energy efficient; other brands aren't following suit - since the new EU law has come in, other brands have started to either fall off or reduce their ranges such as Panasonic who no longer sell floorcare in the UK and Morphy Richards, the once darling brand of budget built vacs are reducing their ranges. It's really not a good time to be in Europe or the UK where modern brands are concerned.
I've also heard Miele are ceasing their upright vacuums in the UK.
I've also heard Miele are ceasing their upright vacuums in the UK.
alexhoovers94
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I personally prefer bagged, but what is the point of this thread? it will just go on and on with peoples opinions.
With modern bagged technology, they both do the same thing! one is just messier.
With modern bagged technology, they both do the same thing! one is just messier.
