Bag/bagless observations

[blackheart]

FQ

They definitely lose their flow. They seem to do it rather quickly too. Airflow is just really hard to judge without any tools it's not as easy to "feel" as sealed suction is.

 

[myles_v]

FQs do lose some airflow but it's not as dramatic of a loss as other machines that use a filter directly in the bin. With genuine cones I have yet to notice a dramatic airflow reduction during regular cleaning, that was a large part of their original marketing scheme as well.

 

[mikanic]

It's so typical, isn't it?

I can't stand bagless vacuum cleaners. They were introduced by a click-bait brand that should have waited till today, in which we have fleece bags. Here in my area we still have a few bagged uprights, for example the Sebo Felix series, the Sebo Automatic, the Miele Dynamic U1 series, and still in stock are a Hoover Purepower and Enigma at the budget end. You still, however, get paper bags which just rip open. At least not all the time.

So you're a fan of bagged cleaners like me! I really believe James Dyson should look at what he's done to make traditional vacuum cleaning worse. Cyclones always getting filthy, filters in contact with the dirt, inability to get under furniture and so on.

In the end, though, both types of storage have their pros and cons. One of the biggest cons about bagged vacuums is that, even though they're more hygienic to empty if they have a sealer, more than just the dirt is thrown away- the entire bag. Hoover tried to invent a Permabag system back in the 80s but I don't know if that worked or not.

Once again, I like bagged vacuums too. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

 

[turbo500]

Hoover tried to invent a Permabag system back in the 80s

the original Permabag that came on the Turbopower and Turbomaster Freedom's was horrific in every way. It just blew dust out all over the room.
The second version they did for the Turbopower 2, 3 and 1000 was better. Didn't leak, but restricted airflow.

 

[turbo500]

Hoover Turbopower & Turbomaster Freedom

 

[panasonicvac]

I'm usually more of a bagged person myself as well. But I can stand with some exceptions with bagless vacuums.

Pretty much any bagless upright or canister that I would use, I usually clean them every time that I am done with using if I only use them once in a while but I would not use them every day or once a week.

Using a true cyclonic central vacuum as my main vacuum such as Vacumaid, Vacuflo, or ACV. No bags or filters to ever have to buy or replace. Cleaning the screen and emptying it with a garbage bag to me takes about less than a minute and my hands always look clean everytime I do it. I could've added Aqua-Air on the list but I would have to buy bag screens and replace them every month.

 

[rolls_rapide]

The problem I have with bagless, is that as soon as you try to empty the bin, the particles fly everywhere, either by a breeze or by electrostatic charge - and frequently both.

Let's face it, original shake-out cloth bags were a bit of a menace too, hence the reason for paper disposable bags.

Disposable bags are definitely far more hygienic - and an awful lot less hassle.

Then the Dyson DC01 machines became mainstream and soon everyone was up to their ears in stoor again. The DC01 was not a hygienic machine to empty. Neither were the multitude of pleated-filter single-cyclone Dyson wannabes.

For filtration efficiency, the electrostatic modern bags do a very good job. They also allow the machine to develop maximum airflow.

 

[ultralux88]

I have bagless vacuums too, but I don’t find myself using them nearly as often as my bagged machines. I just don’t find myself with the urge to futz with all that dust, I do t mind the Rainbow because it’s relatively easy to wash out, and if you change the water before it gets excessively dirty, the separator stays clean enough to only need brushed out every so often. And most importantly, the dirt is all wet and I don’t have to breathe it. I guess my allergies have just become this bad and I’ve become that grossed out by the whole ordeal...