Are Bag Check Indicators To Be Trusted?

[floor-a-matic]

I change when suction is only 1/2 of what it should be with new bag/filter(s)

On the Electrolux 1205, I always leave the Automatic Control set to "Fine Dust" so the bag door opens when the bag is only 1/4 full.

Those old Luxes have dual-type (electronic & mechanical) bag check indicators; too bad the current Luxes are only electronic.

On the Compacts & TriStars, although they don't have ANY bag check indicators, I fill the bag all the way & still have lots of suction; but I change the bags VERY often.

 

[vacu-finder]

On some Vac's the indicator is a waste (bells & whistles) so to speak.
On the other hand All the Electrolux'S i owned the bag check indicator worked flawlessly all the time...

 

[jmurray01]

On what Electrolux models was it that the indicator worked ?

 

[mieleforever]

In my oppinion

I think that the "bag needs change" indicator is rather like one's car oil level indicator, when it comes on it usually is too late and there has already been some damage done to the machine. Rather just check it on a regular basis like checking one's oil and water on a regular basis.

Regards

 

[jmurray01]

That's very true.

 

[vintagerepairer]

I wish I had a penny for every time a 'faulty' Electrolux 330 or 345 was bought into my shop for repair, because the user did not know the machine would switch off with a full dust bag. I think it is fair to say that the people guilty of this oversight were probably not the original owners of the cleaners and may not have had an instruction book.

 

[jmurray01]

Another thing is the Electrolux Tango Z5001 had a safety feature where the bag door wouldn't close if there wasn't a bag fitted, so if the owner wanted to be "clever" and try to use it without a bag, they would probably think it had broken when the door wouldn't close. Better still, they'd probably break it themselves trying to force it shut.

Tut tut...

 

[vintagerepairer]

The idea of not being able to close the lid of a cleaner without a bag is one which has come and gone over the years, with no apparent rhyme or reason. Personally, I quite like it. It seemed to start with the Electrolux Automatic cleaners which would not power up without a dust bag, and then the Electrolux 350 series had the bag indicator fashioned in such a way that it fell backwards without a dust bag and would obstruct the lid so that it could not be replaced. But over time many cleaners have had this idea. I think the AEG and Miele cleaners may well have done something along these lines. I just can't remember.

 

[jmurray01]

And thank goodness for that feature eh ? Or else many cleaners would have been used bagless and thus eventually clogged up and been thrown out to the bin men. I suspect most of them met that fate anyway, when the owner couldn't use them bagless and was too parsimonious to buy more bags.

They have now probably gone through many bagless cleaners and wish they had that old reliable bagged cleaner again... Oh well.

 

[vacu-finder]

In response to your question jmurray01.
On what Electrolux models was it that the indicator worked ?
The models AP100 and AP280 Canadian models.

Yes i had one act up, What happens usually is the plastic tubes get plugged with debris.

 

[jmurray01]

I see - Thank you Dean!

 

[alexhoovers94]

The bag check light has stopped working on my hoover turbopower 2 autosense, it is an LED bulb obviously. I took the turbopower 2 apart today to check the carbon brushes and so on, put it all back together correctly with all the wires connected up right and now the LED bag check light doesn't work, I am not totally sure but I think it worked prior to me taking it apart, is it just a wild coincidence that the light burnt out? Is there a loose connection on the curcit board? even though everything looked to be right. I am not sure what to do with it, I don't think I am able to replace this bulb either am I?

 

[jmurray01]

Hmm... I've never had one of those little LED indicator lights go before, so I'd be more swayed towards the idea of something going awry when you were taking it apart/putting it together.

 

[vintagerepairer]

Chances are that the tube which connects the bag-full switch to wherever it needs to be connected has not been put back in place. It has been a good deal of years since I fixed one of these and I cannot for the life of me remember where the tubes are. Sorry. Have a good look at the cleaner, it shouldn't be hard to find.

 

[jmurray01]

I thought it would be something of the sort!

 

[rolls_rapide]

I think a clear flexible tube connects the pressure sensor switch, to the duct which connects the bag chamber filter box to the motor.

I noticed recently that an aunt's friend's circa 2006 Purepower still has that same flexible tube, but no pressure switch assembly. Maybe it is now used as a motor cooling intake instead?

 

[alexhoovers94]

well when I pulled the the air ducked from the bag chamber to the motor out slightly and this little tube popped out and I was like oh and pushed it back in and didn't think anything else of it so maybe that was it, cause I am pretty sure it worked prior to me takeing it apart.

 

[vintagerepairer]

If it ain't broken...

 

[jmurray01]

True, but preventative maintenance never hurt either

 

[vintagerepairer]

Well it clearly has in this case !

 

[jmurray01]

I thought that as soon as I said it, ha ha!

 

[alexhoovers94]

Thankyou vintageRrpairer!



I took the bag box out of the turbpower 2 today and after the removal of it i was left to find that that little tube you were talking about to be not connected to the ducting, so I re fitted it and well I was there give the inside a good clean, put it all back together and what do you know we have the bag light illuminating again.
Thankyou for your help it just didn't accure to me.

 

[vintagerepairer]

You are most welcome.

 

[jmurray01]

I assume the tube is located (in case I require the knowledge at a later date for my Turbopowers) behind the part of the cleaner which comes away with two screws located in the back wall of the bag chamber ?

 

[jake1234]

Bag Full Indicators

I think pretty soon this will be an obselete topic anyway. The way things are going, cleaners are getting cheaper and cheaper, wether its piston or neon, soon there wont be any bag full indicators at all.

 

[Deleted member 1090]

My only vacuum whita bag indicator is my Electrolux AP200 i tried it once and it came on shut off the vacuum i was suprise the bag was jam pack full andi mean FULL i wanted to see if it still work also comes on when ther is no bag and wont let you turn the machine on so it has 2 features for me i pick up alot of fine dust and sand i usually set my ap 200 indicator dust selector dial at 5 or 6 and let the vac light come on i hate changing bags every second week i also rebuilt the vacuum so shes good to go i usually change the bag a month at a time before the lights come on its usually pack half way or some time 3/4 but solid still so i put a new one in to be safe.

 

[paul]

The SPI (System Performance Indicator) on my Lux Commercial by Aerus upright didn't work at first, as I discovered when I pulled out the jam-packed bag. The bag full bulb didn't illuminate at all—not even a flicker! I also noticed a fine coating of dust both in the bag chamber and on the outside of the filter bag.

So, going by the satisfied reviews I'd read on Vacuumland, I decided to purchase some DVC brand filter bags from a thrift store to see if they'd work better for me, too, rather than the blue Home Solutions brand that I'd been using.

That made all the difference in performance. Along with improved filtration and air flow the SPI bag full light now illuminates when the bag is about ¾ full.

Btw, I contacted Aerus to see if I could exchange what I perceived to be defective filter bags and was told they have no agreement with the supplier to honor the request.

 

[pr-21]

Be sure when you buy DVC Bags that they actually say 4 ply. Some sellars are selling a two ply bag


instead of 4 ply DVC. I also think the 4 ply DVC bags are better than the Home Solutions. If you want 


genuine 4 ply Electrolux Bags, try Ebay. You can find brand new old stock Germgrabber or


Surething bags, which work great in my machines. I also keep the 4ply DVC Bags. I use those in


a friends vacuum as he has pets. There is no dust in his bag compartment when the bag needs changed.


 


One more note. The best bag Electrolux made as far as I am concerned was the IOLTA bags.....


 


 


PR-21


Bud

 

[tolivac]

Careful on the Lux blue bags--I had one of those BURST in my 'Lux Platinum-the Aerus folks know about it and now offer Home Solutions Filtrete type bags for the Platinum-MUCH better!The paper bags should go away altogether at this point since vacuum motors are so much more powerful now.