Are any Hoovers MAade in the USA anymore?
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I think only bags are made in the US now
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gusherb
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Mexico and China are the only current production places I know of.
vacman117
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No..
Riccar/Simplicity are still made here
Riccar/Simplicity are still made here
DysonAnimal
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What about Oreck?
In TTI's defense, the cost of bringing the North Canton plant up to standard to meet the volume of production required to remain competitive would have been astronomical. It simply wasn't a viable proposition - sometimes, tradition has to make way for cold, hard business sense. And vacuum cleaner manufacturing IS a business, not a game.
In TTI's defense, the cost of bringing the North Canton plant up to standard to meet the volume of production required to remain competitive would have been astronomical. It simply wasn't a viable proposition - sometimes, tradition has to make way for cold, hard business sense. And vacuum cleaner manufacturing IS a business, not a game.
vacman117
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I forgot about Oreck. There is a lot then isn't there. I have no idea, but I am thinking Rainbow might be?
Filter Queen uses chinese ametek motors. It's sad. Most motors are chinese now, unfortunately. I think some ametek/lamb motors are still made in the states, though. For large motors, I know Baldor continues to make great quality motors here.
I could have sworn I saw some Hoover bags in the shop that were made in England. Maybe I'm just making things up.
I could have sworn I saw some Hoover bags in the shop that were made in England. Maybe I'm just making things up.
Some new Oreck models (i.e. the Edge) are now made in China as well. They have a relatively new line of commercial models that look like Sanitaires but are made in China as well. As for Hoover, well IMHO, it would have been better for them to go out of business completely than have their name now dragged through the dirt (pun intended) by TTI. I really loved the new Connie & am sorry it had such a short production run. R.I.P. Hoover "as we knew it...."
- Karl
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vacman117
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In TTI's defense...
Some of their new machines have been pretty nice.. I, and I am sure many others would have been very sad. Number 1- Hoover's name would be gone as we know it completely. I love the Hoover Windtunnel Air, that was a very nice design, and there is a lot of other machines that I do like. I am not trying to start up a fight or anything, I am just saying.
Some of their new machines have been pretty nice.. I, and I am sure many others would have been very sad. Number 1- Hoover's name would be gone as we know it completely. I love the Hoover Windtunnel Air, that was a very nice design, and there is a lot of other machines that I do like. I am not trying to start up a fight or anything, I am just saying.
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I agree, Chase - some of the TTI Hoovers have been decent cleaners, and the company continues to enjoy strong sales and brand recognition. The last Maytag-Hoover, aside from the new Constellation, was the Z - creative and ambitious, but impractical, and a massive sales flop.
The current reality may not have been the scenario 'Boss' Hoover imagined for his company, but his family were still firmly in control when he died, and I'm sure he didn't foresee the series of bad decisions over the following decades which would lead to them losing control, and to Hoover's European Division being sold off.
The last chapter of The Fabulous Dustpan has some great words on the need for businesses to adapt and to move with the times. Might be worth re-reading!
The current reality may not have been the scenario 'Boss' Hoover imagined for his company, but his family were still firmly in control when he died, and I'm sure he didn't foresee the series of bad decisions over the following decades which would lead to them losing control, and to Hoover's European Division being sold off.
The last chapter of The Fabulous Dustpan has some great words on the need for businesses to adapt and to move with the times. Might be worth re-reading!
scvacuumguy
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TTI is not all that bad....
They recently restructured their system and they take very good care of their dealers. One of their latest creations is keeping the junk lines at junk stores (big box stores) and keeping decent stuff in dealer protected showrooms. The warranties are taken care of in a reasonable amount of time. Their cheaper products live up to their cheaper price, their more expensive products live up to their more expensive price tag.
Most people who hate TTI aren't even dealers and have no clue how they work, they simply are just stuck in time periods decades ago. While it is great to appreciate long-term appliances, great manufacturing, excellent construction and reliability- we do have to move along with the times, just as Jack and Chase have already said.
The latest Hoovers and Royals are still decent machines. They live up to expectations- and peoples' expectations of appliances are much less than they were decades ago.
They recently restructured their system and they take very good care of their dealers. One of their latest creations is keeping the junk lines at junk stores (big box stores) and keeping decent stuff in dealer protected showrooms. The warranties are taken care of in a reasonable amount of time. Their cheaper products live up to their cheaper price, their more expensive products live up to their more expensive price tag.
Most people who hate TTI aren't even dealers and have no clue how they work, they simply are just stuck in time periods decades ago. While it is great to appreciate long-term appliances, great manufacturing, excellent construction and reliability- we do have to move along with the times, just as Jack and Chase have already said.
The latest Hoovers and Royals are still decent machines. They live up to expectations- and peoples' expectations of appliances are much less than they were decades ago.
This reminds me of how sad I am at the disappearance of my beloved Eureka Williams Company. The last time I saw the name "Eureka" put on a vac of decent quality was when Sweden's Electrolux slapped the name on North America's 110-volt version of the Oxygen canisters (beautiful colours, by the way). The only way I can actually see "Eureka" anymore is through the Sanitaire line of uprights. I sometimes imagine what all those new high quality Electrolux's (e.g. the new "ultra one") would look like with the old Eureka logo on them!
It's interesting that Electrolux chose Hungary as their preferred factory location!
It's interesting that Electrolux chose Hungary as their preferred factory location!
"Peoples' expectations of appliances are much less than they were decades ago."
Because, except for a handful of manufacturers everything today is made of poor quality. Appliances, automobiles, electronics and everything else is made to be disposable, and I for one think it's disgraceful. We live in a throw-away society and "sheeple" just go along with it. This is all thanks to the China free trade agreement.
It's kind of ironic that just before the TTI takeover, Hoover revived one of their best machines - the Constellation. It was wonderful to see a metal machine again. With TTI at the helm, I can foresee plastic bagless crap for years to come....
Because, except for a handful of manufacturers everything today is made of poor quality. Appliances, automobiles, electronics and everything else is made to be disposable, and I for one think it's disgraceful. We live in a throw-away society and "sheeple" just go along with it. This is all thanks to the China free trade agreement.
It's kind of ironic that just before the TTI takeover, Hoover revived one of their best machines - the Constellation. It was wonderful to see a metal machine again. With TTI at the helm, I can foresee plastic bagless crap for years to come....
scvacuumguy
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Couldn't agree with you more Karl! When you combine instant gratification, big box stores, low customer service and consumers with low expectations- this is what you get.
If I had $5 for every customer who says, "We just buy a new vacuum every year or so after this one dies" ...
I do feel there will be a shift in the next 10-15 years back to locally owned businesses selling decent products. Many people want to go "green" and one of our sales techniques capitalizes on that idea. Buying bad vacuum cleaners is a danger to the environment and increases useless landfill waste.
The only inexpensive TTI Product we carry is the T Series bagless and that is at the $89-99 price point. We sell very few of them as we generally use it as an entry level machine to gain a customer. My theory is if a customer walks because they cannot afford a more expensive vacuum, then we have lost that customer for life.
Many companies such as Bissell have designed vacuums for big box stores- bright graphics and colors, novelty attachments that are relatively useless (fold down pet hair felt strips) are among some of the things that you see on display at these stores. There are stickers describing features, etc in a way that the general consumer can walk up to the machine in Wal Mart and read for themselves "why" they should purchase a vacuum. If you look at the progression of machines in the 80's-90's you notice more and more stickers on the machines describing their features. This goes right along with the lack of customer service provided by these big box stores.
If I had $5 for every customer who says, "We just buy a new vacuum every year or so after this one dies" ...
I do feel there will be a shift in the next 10-15 years back to locally owned businesses selling decent products. Many people want to go "green" and one of our sales techniques capitalizes on that idea. Buying bad vacuum cleaners is a danger to the environment and increases useless landfill waste.
The only inexpensive TTI Product we carry is the T Series bagless and that is at the $89-99 price point. We sell very few of them as we generally use it as an entry level machine to gain a customer. My theory is if a customer walks because they cannot afford a more expensive vacuum, then we have lost that customer for life.
Many companies such as Bissell have designed vacuums for big box stores- bright graphics and colors, novelty attachments that are relatively useless (fold down pet hair felt strips) are among some of the things that you see on display at these stores. There are stickers describing features, etc in a way that the general consumer can walk up to the machine in Wal Mart and read for themselves "why" they should purchase a vacuum. If you look at the progression of machines in the 80's-90's you notice more and more stickers on the machines describing their features. This goes right along with the lack of customer service provided by these big box stores.
It really IS a shame what has happened over the last 20-25 years. The vacuum cleaner industry wants you to believe bagless is better. What most people don't realize is when they purchase a cheapie bagless (i.e. Dirt Devil) these vacuums have filters that have to be replaced every six months or year. At $40. a clip, nobody replaces them (they were too cheap to buy bags in the first place) which causes the motor to choke on dust and burn out in a relatively short period of time. That, plus the bulk majority of the new cleaners have 12-amp "gas guzzler motors." Back in the '80's, Hoover's Concept was a powerhouse that drew only 5.6 amps! From its inception, Dirt Devil was always kind of a throw-away machine, I just feel that TTI is gonna make Hoover the same way.
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Aerus vacuums are still made in the States, aren't they?
Aerus vacuums are still made in the States, aren't they?
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Yeah, they still are.
