Anyone have info on the new Kirby ?
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kirbysthebest
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RE: emp-tor
That one is ugly, and I wouldn't considere it an Emp-tor. It is more like a bag couppler. Through this limited view, there doesn't appear to be any place to catch heavy object, or empty them.
I no likey.
That one is ugly, and I wouldn't considere it an Emp-tor. It is more like a bag couppler. Through this limited view, there doesn't appear to be any place to catch heavy object, or empty them.
I no likey.
pr-21
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Emptor
Out of curiosity I took apart the emptor on an Ultimate G. It surprised me. I thought the bottom cavity was for collection, instead what I found was an upward slanting tube with a ridge to hold back the larger debris. By the way I only took this apart because it had been broken.
Very interesting looking new emptor. Looks beefier, larger strap holding it on. Still like the looks of the other one better. Wonder if they will offer this for the older G Series? or just continue on....
Bud
Out of curiosity I took apart the emptor on an Ultimate G. It surprised me. I thought the bottom cavity was for collection, instead what I found was an upward slanting tube with a ridge to hold back the larger debris. By the way I only took this apart because it had been broken.
Very interesting looking new emptor. Looks beefier, larger strap holding it on. Still like the looks of the other one better. Wonder if they will offer this for the older G Series? or just continue on....
Bud
pr-21
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Drawing doesn't show emptor
Don't get me wrong, I have always thought the emptor on the Kirby was a brilliant design, even more so with with the G Series. I am wondering if the emptor is even necessary since it isn't showing in the drawing? Kirby could still have a top fill bag using a coupling similar to what is on a Royal All Metal. With the size of their fill tube they could just instruct everyone to twist the coupling off and shake out any large debris and snap it back on from time to time.
What are your thoughts on this? This is also assuming the new Kirby will look similar to the picture at the patent office........
Bud
Don't get me wrong, I have always thought the emptor on the Kirby was a brilliant design, even more so with with the G Series. I am wondering if the emptor is even necessary since it isn't showing in the drawing? Kirby could still have a top fill bag using a coupling similar to what is on a Royal All Metal. With the size of their fill tube they could just instruct everyone to twist the coupling off and shake out any large debris and snap it back on from time to time.
What are your thoughts on this? This is also assuming the new Kirby will look similar to the picture at the patent office........
Bud
Kirby attachments
What is so difficult about changing a Kirby to attachments? Especially the ones with the pull out lever? What people who complain about the changeover fail to realize is that 1) no other vacuum gives the same flexibility of configuring the wands/tools with that angled elbow. MD Central vac website offers attachments that come close. 2) the removal of the nozzle allow an actual conversion to a hose type cleaner. It rolls easier than any other upright with attachments. All the OBT uprights are wannabes. You can't seriously compare a big box upright with its short collapsible hose with the 7 foot nearly indestructible Kirby hose. Even the Miele S7 (which I really lik) has the annoyance of coping with that shrinking hose when using the upholstery and crevice tools. And Miele does offer an additional hose as an option.
Sorry, Jeanette. To be politically correct I should have said that Kirbys are designed for people who like to clean thoroughly and don't mind spending an extra five minutes to do a superior job.
What is so difficult about changing a Kirby to attachments? Especially the ones with the pull out lever? What people who complain about the changeover fail to realize is that 1) no other vacuum gives the same flexibility of configuring the wands/tools with that angled elbow. MD Central vac website offers attachments that come close. 2) the removal of the nozzle allow an actual conversion to a hose type cleaner. It rolls easier than any other upright with attachments. All the OBT uprights are wannabes. You can't seriously compare a big box upright with its short collapsible hose with the 7 foot nearly indestructible Kirby hose. Even the Miele S7 (which I really lik) has the annoyance of coping with that shrinking hose when using the upholstery and crevice tools. And Miele does offer an additional hose as an option.
Sorry, Jeanette. To be politically correct I should have said that Kirbys are designed for people who like to clean thoroughly and don't mind spending an extra five minutes to do a superior job.
brandon_w_t
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I think Kirbys are quite a bit more work than any other modern vacuum cleaner to change attachments. Todays house-cleaners dont want to spend 30 seconds changing them back and forth. I have no problem doing it, but sometimes I would rather flip the handle of a dyson out or use a canister.
Dysons hose design on the DC17/28 is brilliant. Wont tip over no matter how hard you try.
Dysons hose design on the DC17/28 is brilliant. Wont tip over no matter how hard you try.
vacfanatic
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Attachments
I just spent 1.5 hours vacuuming with my Sentria and about 50 minutes of that was with the hose. I find it super easy to change to hose mode. I just vacuum all the rooms first, then I switch to hose and go around and do the areas that I want to do with the hose and attachments.
Andrew
I just spent 1.5 hours vacuuming with my Sentria and about 50 minutes of that was with the hose. I find it super easy to change to hose mode. I just vacuum all the rooms first, then I switch to hose and go around and do the areas that I want to do with the hose and attachments.
Andrew
I don't find converting the Kirby from an upright vac to a hose canister to be that difficult either.however,I think many canisters do outperform the Kirby in that type of mode-and the Kirby will outperform ANY canister powernozzle.I do use both types of machines together.I don't like using the kirby with the hose when I am vacuuming blind areas-remember what you pick up goes thru that plastic fan!All it takes is a nail or a coin to bust the fan.Gravel from your cars floor can rapidly erode the plastic fans-not a problem with the metal ones.
"I think Kirbys are quite a bit more work than any other modern vacuum cleaner to change attachments."
How do you judge "quite a bit more work" as opposed to a little bit more work?
The metal wands of a power nozzle canister are heavy to lift to do overhead dusting. The attached wands of an OBT upright are clumsy when dusting a lampshade, and have to be removed to use a tool directly on the end of a hose. A Dyson has a hose that tears easily. You cannot yank it around by the hose it will tear, and the hose is not covered under warranty, read the exclusions. The wand cannot reach anything up high with any depth, like a bookshelf. And that collapsing hose is such an annoyance, but we are talking about two different things. I am not speaking of catching a stray cobweb or picking up a piece of popcorn, I am talking about real, honest to goodness above the floor cleaning, vacuuming entire walls, cleaning under the couch cushions, vacuuming the entire couch, including the backs and sides. The Kirby hose and the wands are lighter, so light that 6 of them can be coupled together to reach very high ceilings and still be maneuvered with one hand. The suction control grip between two wands is a boon for reaching ceilings over a sectional sofa placed in a corner. The dust brush is made with real hair. The hose end swivel grip is easy to hold without any curved end in the way for dusting and upholstery. The brush in the crevice tool, the Zipp brush for removing pet hair... When you start looking at really using the attachments task by task to do serious thorough cleaning, the Kirby attachments have a lot going for them. Just a quick swipe to get a single piece of debris, no question there are faster, easier choices. When I use attachments I care about the quality of the result. I have rotator cuff problems that limit the weight I can hold up over my head, and the tension of fighting a hose that wants to collapse with restriction of airflow induces pain. Aside from the few seconds needed to change to the hose, I see no deficiencies in the Kirby tools. There is no running after a second machine, and no moving a second machine out of my way to clean around it or move furniture.
Trebor
How do you judge "quite a bit more work" as opposed to a little bit more work?
The metal wands of a power nozzle canister are heavy to lift to do overhead dusting. The attached wands of an OBT upright are clumsy when dusting a lampshade, and have to be removed to use a tool directly on the end of a hose. A Dyson has a hose that tears easily. You cannot yank it around by the hose it will tear, and the hose is not covered under warranty, read the exclusions. The wand cannot reach anything up high with any depth, like a bookshelf. And that collapsing hose is such an annoyance, but we are talking about two different things. I am not speaking of catching a stray cobweb or picking up a piece of popcorn, I am talking about real, honest to goodness above the floor cleaning, vacuuming entire walls, cleaning under the couch cushions, vacuuming the entire couch, including the backs and sides. The Kirby hose and the wands are lighter, so light that 6 of them can be coupled together to reach very high ceilings and still be maneuvered with one hand. The suction control grip between two wands is a boon for reaching ceilings over a sectional sofa placed in a corner. The dust brush is made with real hair. The hose end swivel grip is easy to hold without any curved end in the way for dusting and upholstery. The brush in the crevice tool, the Zipp brush for removing pet hair... When you start looking at really using the attachments task by task to do serious thorough cleaning, the Kirby attachments have a lot going for them. Just a quick swipe to get a single piece of debris, no question there are faster, easier choices. When I use attachments I care about the quality of the result. I have rotator cuff problems that limit the weight I can hold up over my head, and the tension of fighting a hose that wants to collapse with restriction of airflow induces pain. Aside from the few seconds needed to change to the hose, I see no deficiencies in the Kirby tools. There is no running after a second machine, and no moving a second machine out of my way to clean around it or move furniture.
Trebor
henry200
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Viva la difference!
I have used uprights and cannisters equally over the years. I think what some might call the "awkward" method of converting to attachments with Kirbys is part of the charm for me.....it's part of the enjoyment of "playing" with the vacuum. I think it's a matter of adapting your cleaning style whether using the Kirby or a tank. For efficiency's sake, with a Kirby it makes more sense to do all the attachment-mode cleaning at the same time, then switch to the carpet head. With a tank it's easier to switch back and forth as you go. Uprights and even cannister power nozzles are going to be somewhat clumsy when navigating in tight spaces. In my mother's crowded little apartment I end up doing 80% of the cleaning using just the upholstery, dusting and crevice tools....on my hands and knees!
I have used uprights and cannisters equally over the years. I think what some might call the "awkward" method of converting to attachments with Kirbys is part of the charm for me.....it's part of the enjoyment of "playing" with the vacuum. I think it's a matter of adapting your cleaning style whether using the Kirby or a tank. For efficiency's sake, with a Kirby it makes more sense to do all the attachment-mode cleaning at the same time, then switch to the carpet head. With a tank it's easier to switch back and forth as you go. Uprights and even cannister power nozzles are going to be somewhat clumsy when navigating in tight spaces. In my mother's crowded little apartment I end up doing 80% of the cleaning using just the upholstery, dusting and crevice tools....on my hands and knees!
"I think Kirbys are quite a bit more work than any other modern vacuum cleaner to change attachments."
How do you judge "quite a bit more work" as opposed to a little bit more work?
The metal wands of a power nozzle canister are heavy to lift to do overhead dusting. The attached wands of an OBT upright are clumsy when dusting a lampshade, and have to be removed to use a tool directly on the end of a hose. A Dyson has a hose that tears easily. You cannot yank it around by the hose it will tear, and the hose is not covered under warranty, read the exclusions. The wand cannot reach anything up high with any depth, like a bookshelf. And that collapsing hose is such an annoyance, but we are talking about two different things. I am not speaking of catching a stray cobweb or picking up a piece of popcorn, I am talking about real, honest to goodness above the floor cleaning, vacuuming entire walls, cleaning under the couch cushions, vacuuming the entire couch, including the backs and sides. The Kirby hose and the wands are lighter, so light that 6 of them can be coupled together to reach very high ceilings and still be maneuvered with one hand. The suction control grip between two wands is a boon for reaching ceilings over a sectional sofa placed in a corner. The dust brush is made with real hair. The hose end swivel grip is easy to hold without any curved end in the way for dusting and upholstery. The brush in the crevice tool, the Zipp brush for removing pet hair... When you start looking at really using the attachments task by task to do serious thorough cleaning, the Kirby attachments have a lot going for them. Just a quick swipe to get a single piece of debris, no question there are faster, easier choices. When I use attachments I care about the quality of the result. I have rotator cuff problems that limit the weight I can hold up over my head, and the tension of fighting a hose that wants to collapse with restriction of airflow induces pain. Aside from the few seconds needed to change to the hose, I see no deficiencies in the Kirby tools. There is no running after a second machine, and no moving a second machine out of my way to clean around it or move furniture.
Trebor
How do you judge "quite a bit more work" as opposed to a little bit more work?
The metal wands of a power nozzle canister are heavy to lift to do overhead dusting. The attached wands of an OBT upright are clumsy when dusting a lampshade, and have to be removed to use a tool directly on the end of a hose. A Dyson has a hose that tears easily. You cannot yank it around by the hose it will tear, and the hose is not covered under warranty, read the exclusions. The wand cannot reach anything up high with any depth, like a bookshelf. And that collapsing hose is such an annoyance, but we are talking about two different things. I am not speaking of catching a stray cobweb or picking up a piece of popcorn, I am talking about real, honest to goodness above the floor cleaning, vacuuming entire walls, cleaning under the couch cushions, vacuuming the entire couch, including the backs and sides. The Kirby hose and the wands are lighter, so light that 6 of them can be coupled together to reach very high ceilings and still be maneuvered with one hand. The suction control grip between two wands is a boon for reaching ceilings over a sectional sofa placed in a corner. The dust brush is made with real hair. The hose end swivel grip is easy to hold without any curved end in the way for dusting and upholstery. The brush in the crevice tool, the Zipp brush for removing pet hair... When you start looking at really using the attachments task by task to do serious thorough cleaning, the Kirby attachments have a lot going for them. Just a quick swipe to get a single piece of debris, no question there are faster, easier choices. When I use attachments I care about the quality of the result. I have rotator cuff problems that limit the weight I can hold up over my head, and the tension of fighting a hose that wants to collapse with restriction of airflow induces pain. Aside from the few seconds needed to change to the hose, I see no deficiencies in the Kirby tools. There is no running after a second machine, and no moving a second machine out of my way to clean around it or move furniture.
Trebor
henry200
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Those are good points, Trebor. Having a hose that doesn't fight you, and well-designed, light weight tools are something even a person without any physical limitations can appreciate.
frkirby560
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I fully resonate with Trebor. When I want to give a room a real thorough cleaning, I always use the Kirby with all its attachments. I find the Kirby tools the most useful and adaptable to the many needs of different furnishings etc. I also combine the more traditional Kirby tool set from my Heritage II Legend with the current style tool set from my G-6. I really like the adaptablity the gooseneck wand from the traditional set gives along with the longer straight wand. It is so much better than fighting with a pistol grip from the more modern canister and tank hose assemblies. The one thing I have done is purchase a wider, more substantial floor brush for my set of Kirby attachments since I do think the one provided in that set is not adequate. The one I purchased is black so it completely matches the set. I use the "utility brush nozzle," for walls and other above the floor cleaning for which I find it very useful.
Bruce
Bruce
frkirby560
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Here is the set; I usually use the two Kirbys together when I clean the whole house.
frkirby560
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close up of the floor brush
optional Kirby floor tools
Has anyone seen the new Kirby floor tool? It's plastic with a curved clip on felt pad, like on a Filter Queen. And Kirby has offered a standard bare floor tool for years. Not sure the Kirby has quite enough oomph to use that wide of a brush, though. Have to say for bare floors the Miele canisters are the bomb
Has anyone seen the new Kirby floor tool? It's plastic with a curved clip on felt pad, like on a Filter Queen. And Kirby has offered a standard bare floor tool for years. Not sure the Kirby has quite enough oomph to use that wide of a brush, though. Have to say for bare floors the Miele canisters are the bomb
henry200
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I'm not sure why but I don't use the felt floor pad on my Kirby very much, and didn't use the one on my Filter Queen either. Seconds on the Miele for bare floors!
pr-21
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Felt floor pad
I never used them either. I did buy the Kirby one and tossed it out. It seemed to push the debris and I was afraid it would catch a pebble or something hard and scratch the floor.
Bud
I never used them either. I did buy the Kirby one and tossed it out. It seemed to push the debris and I was afraid it would catch a pebble or something hard and scratch the floor.
Bud
Was there, in fact, a Kirby World Convention in March?
Is there a difference between just a factory distributors meeting and a world convention? If there was either in March, was there a new Kirby shown? Now that we are into April, at least these pieces of information should be for certain.
Is there a difference between just a factory distributors meeting and a world convention? If there was either in March, was there a new Kirby shown? Now that we are into April, at least these pieces of information should be for certain.
frkirby560
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"Not sure the Kirby has quite enough oomph to use that wide of a brush, though. Have to say for bare floors the Miele canisters are the bomb"
Actually it does! Not the oomph of a Miele canister of course, but quite enough really to clean a bare floor.
When you talk about a "standard bare floor tool," that Kirby offers, are you talking about the one that comes with the standard G series attachments that has the little tiny wheels? Or is there an additional, optional attachment that is a real bare floor tool with real bristles? If the latter, I didn't know of such an attachment. When did they start to offer it? On what model? Very interested.
And of the floor tool with the felt pad ---is this the one that came with the 500 series machines, or do they have a new one now? Below is the picture of the older floor tool with felt pad that came with the 500 series; don't think this came with the Classics/Omegas etc. Definitely not with the Legend series. I have several of these with my 519 and my 560.
But are they offering this again? With the Sentria? Never heard of that.
Anyone have pictures of these new, additional Kirby attachments? Would love to see them.
B.
Actually it does! Not the oomph of a Miele canister of course, but quite enough really to clean a bare floor.
When you talk about a "standard bare floor tool," that Kirby offers, are you talking about the one that comes with the standard G series attachments that has the little tiny wheels? Or is there an additional, optional attachment that is a real bare floor tool with real bristles? If the latter, I didn't know of such an attachment. When did they start to offer it? On what model? Very interested.
And of the floor tool with the felt pad ---is this the one that came with the 500 series machines, or do they have a new one now? Below is the picture of the older floor tool with felt pad that came with the 500 series; don't think this came with the Classics/Omegas etc. Definitely not with the Legend series. I have several of these with my 519 and my 560.
But are they offering this again? With the Sentria? Never heard of that.
Anyone have pictures of these new, additional Kirby attachments? Would love to see them.
B.
