Anyone have info on the new Kirby ?
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Hello Harley...
Thank you for your comments, Harley.
The post above was not directed at any individual. ~~lol~~ Your post was not even remotely considered, when I made the generalizations above; however, thank you again for your thoughts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with speculating, that is what makes this forum useful. I sometimes speculate myself as to what Kirby will come out with next.
It never ceases to amaze me, when (we) think, "How can they makes this any better?" & then they do go & make it better.
Speculation is one thing; saying "...it's on the market..." or "...so & so saw it..." is entirely different; especially when such is not the case.
Cheers & hagd all,
Bill
Thank you for your comments, Harley.
The post above was not directed at any individual. ~~lol~~ Your post was not even remotely considered, when I made the generalizations above; however, thank you again for your thoughts.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with speculating, that is what makes this forum useful. I sometimes speculate myself as to what Kirby will come out with next.
It never ceases to amaze me, when (we) think, "How can they makes this any better?" & then they do go & make it better.
Speculation is one thing; saying "...it's on the market..." or "...so & so saw it..." is entirely different; especially when such is not the case.
Cheers & hagd all,
Bill
pr-21
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New Kirby
Hi Bill,
I appreciate the point you made. I am a big Kirby fan and am as anxious as everyone else to see a new kirby come down the pike....Any information that you are able to share with us would be greatly appreciated, when you have it. I went on some demo's with a Kirby distributor when the G4 was the newest model out. He actually got his Kirby's from the Factory Distributor in Dayton Ohio. I always thought I could sell Kirby Vacuums if someone could get me the appointments...Knocking on doors is not my thing....Anyway, he lost his distributorship when he sold one over the phone to someone in Pennsylvania. It was a set up and Kirby does not tolerate going into someone else's territory. I felt bad for him, even though it was a small store, with only him, his mother, and his brother-inlaw working for him.(It was actually his mother that sold the one over the phone.) Didn't mean to go on like this. Sorry for the long post.
Bud
Hi Bill,
I appreciate the point you made. I am a big Kirby fan and am as anxious as everyone else to see a new kirby come down the pike....Any information that you are able to share with us would be greatly appreciated, when you have it. I went on some demo's with a Kirby distributor when the G4 was the newest model out. He actually got his Kirby's from the Factory Distributor in Dayton Ohio. I always thought I could sell Kirby Vacuums if someone could get me the appointments...Knocking on doors is not my thing....Anyway, he lost his distributorship when he sold one over the phone to someone in Pennsylvania. It was a set up and Kirby does not tolerate going into someone else's territory. I felt bad for him, even though it was a small store, with only him, his mother, and his brother-inlaw working for him.(It was actually his mother that sold the one over the phone.) Didn't mean to go on like this. Sorry for the long post.
Bud
A while back
Okay a while back I had posted regarding my dealings with the patent and underwriting of the new kirby. Our office has had several different version of vacuums come in from and unknown Ohio address. As said in the past i am not allowed to discuss too much regarding the items we receive but one thing that is of particular interest that I realized going back through paper work is none of the new stuff coming in is the person submitting the product is not looking for any patent checks on the items just UL testing, not even certification. The main items that they want checked is a digital motor and a digital transmission system.
Now I don't want to make anyone mad on this site by "speculating" (because apparently his job make him the expert on this subject) but after talking with some coworkers, two patent applications this company have submitted have been rejected. Typically a company has 90 days to appeal a denied application but they have not. Also after doing more research I have also noticed that one of the guys listed as engineer on the patents also has his name listed on several patents for Dyson machines.
I have talked with the company submitting the patents and actually met with two engineers from the company (regarding motor issues) Based on my knowledge this company has spent almost one million dollars in patents, and testing fees alone over the past three years, on the machine that I received through my office earlier this year. I cannot imagine any company scraping a project after that much money has been invested, let alone a dying vacuum company doing so.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Nd..._pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q=scott fetzer&f=false
Okay a while back I had posted regarding my dealings with the patent and underwriting of the new kirby. Our office has had several different version of vacuums come in from and unknown Ohio address. As said in the past i am not allowed to discuss too much regarding the items we receive but one thing that is of particular interest that I realized going back through paper work is none of the new stuff coming in is the person submitting the product is not looking for any patent checks on the items just UL testing, not even certification. The main items that they want checked is a digital motor and a digital transmission system.
Now I don't want to make anyone mad on this site by "speculating" (because apparently his job make him the expert on this subject) but after talking with some coworkers, two patent applications this company have submitted have been rejected. Typically a company has 90 days to appeal a denied application but they have not. Also after doing more research I have also noticed that one of the guys listed as engineer on the patents also has his name listed on several patents for Dyson machines.
I have talked with the company submitting the patents and actually met with two engineers from the company (regarding motor issues) Based on my knowledge this company has spent almost one million dollars in patents, and testing fees alone over the past three years, on the machine that I received through my office earlier this year. I cannot imagine any company scraping a project after that much money has been invested, let alone a dying vacuum company doing so.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=Nd..._pages&cad=3#v=onepage&q=scott fetzer&f=false
One more interesting thing
One more interesting thing that I have found out through all my legal research, The Scott Fetzer Company is under current litigation for selling there machines as new. Turns out that under the RICO act, it is illegal to represent any item that has been used as new even if the item was used for demo purposes. There are several other lawsuits going on with the company, which make me ask the question based on the high cost of the machines, the wide variety of other vacuums on the market, and all the litigation, will Kirby even have a chance to release the new model. Just a little food for thought.
One more interesting thing that I have found out through all my legal research, The Scott Fetzer Company is under current litigation for selling there machines as new. Turns out that under the RICO act, it is illegal to represent any item that has been used as new even if the item was used for demo purposes. There are several other lawsuits going on with the company, which make me ask the question based on the high cost of the machines, the wide variety of other vacuums on the market, and all the litigation, will Kirby even have a chance to release the new model. Just a little food for thought.
"selling new machines"Again kirby isn't the only one that does this-the OTHERS do it too.When selling TriStars in our sales car we had bottles of cleaner and paper towels-many times we cleaned machines and repacked them for the next prospect-this is standard in the DTD vacuum trade.If the machine is getting beat up-it is sold at a discount.
For the NEXT Kirby-guess we all are going to have to sit it out and WAIT-probably next spring.
bimmer740
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Kirby Litigation @isufan11
I'm not surprised that Kirby is in ligitation (again), as some of their sales reps are not exactly the most upstanding or honest people, but not all of them are like that. For examaple our own club member Bill (a007kirbyman) couldnt possibly be a nicer guy, he is a true professional and extremely knowedgable. Its a shame there are some terrible Kirby sales reps as they are the only ones who you ever see in the headlines. I can only speculate, but I doubt that Kirby/Scott Fetzer is lacking any money. They are a part of Warren Buffet's own Berkshire Hathaway conglomerate, whose stock price at closing on the NYSE yesterday was 120,800 per share.
I'm not surprised that Kirby is in ligitation (again), as some of their sales reps are not exactly the most upstanding or honest people, but not all of them are like that. For examaple our own club member Bill (a007kirbyman) couldnt possibly be a nicer guy, he is a true professional and extremely knowedgable. Its a shame there are some terrible Kirby sales reps as they are the only ones who you ever see in the headlines. I can only speculate, but I doubt that Kirby/Scott Fetzer is lacking any money. They are a part of Warren Buffet's own Berkshire Hathaway conglomerate, whose stock price at closing on the NYSE yesterday was 120,800 per share.
djtaylor
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Kirby
I hope Kirby continues to operate, maybe with a better class of salespersons. But, it is time for a total redesign. The G-Type have been in production for 20 years. There were rumors about a digital Kirby back when I started working as a Store Manager/Repairman back in 1996. The G5, if I remember correctly, came out in early 1997 only to be replaced in the summer of 1999 with the G6. When I went work for 'the other guy' in 2006 I was really surprised to see they were still selling a G-Type. The Sentria is nice, but it's been out since the summer of 2006. It is time for something NEW. I hope the next model is not just another color change. How many shades DOES grey come in? I'd like to see Forest Green or Medium Blue. Oh, yes. I would also like to see more curves, less sharp edges.
Just my 'two sents'
Justin
I hope Kirby continues to operate, maybe with a better class of salespersons. But, it is time for a total redesign. The G-Type have been in production for 20 years. There were rumors about a digital Kirby back when I started working as a Store Manager/Repairman back in 1996. The G5, if I remember correctly, came out in early 1997 only to be replaced in the summer of 1999 with the G6. When I went work for 'the other guy' in 2006 I was really surprised to see they were still selling a G-Type. The Sentria is nice, but it's been out since the summer of 2006. It is time for something NEW. I hope the next model is not just another color change. How many shades DOES grey come in? I'd like to see Forest Green or Medium Blue. Oh, yes. I would also like to see more curves, less sharp edges.
Just my 'two sents'
Justin
eurekastar
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It's not surprising that Kirby is currently in litigation, because I suspect that every major corporation is currently in litigation for something. We live in a litigious society. I'll bet that Aerus is currently being sued, along with TTI, Rainbow, Filter Queen, Eureka, Dyson . . .
Sorry
I'm sorry I did not mean to imply anything by my comment about litigation. I know that most of the people on this website are outstanding people, and did not mean to offend or even suggest anything. I twas more of a discussion point.
I'm sorry I did not mean to imply anything by my comment about litigation. I know that most of the people on this website are outstanding people, and did not mean to offend or even suggest anything. I twas more of a discussion point.
eurekastar
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kirbyloverdan
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The wait is driving me crazy lol
Thanks everyone , I hope they bring the new Kirby out soon . I search everywhere for info and it`s very scarce .
Thanks everyone , I hope they bring the new Kirby out soon . I search everywhere for info and it`s very scarce .
electroluxkirby
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2014 is Kirby's 100th anniversary, I wonder if they will have a special anniversary model.....
kirbyloverdan
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2014 is way too long
I want a new Kirby now . lol
I want a new Kirby now . lol
twocvbloke
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It'll be like "Duke Nukem: Forever", it'll never ever be released.... 
kirbyloverdan
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Where is the new Kirby ???????
OK it`s 2011 well over due for a new Kirby . Happy New year everyone . Where is the new KIRBY ?????? lol
OK it`s 2011 well over due for a new Kirby . Happy New year everyone . Where is the new KIRBY ?????? lol
kirbysthebest
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Shhhh
Dan,
We are not allowed to speak of this--It is forbidden.
Dan,
We are not allowed to speak of this--It is forbidden.
kirbyloverdan
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Harley ?????????????????
lol Why not ???
I WANT A NEW KIRBY !!!! LOL
I am having new Kirby withdraw it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long and a new model is in DEMAND now lol .
lol Why not ???
I WANT A NEW KIRBY !!!! LOL
I am having new Kirby withdraw it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long and a new model is in DEMAND now lol .
wait until spring.
