An Absolutely Beautiful Hoover 67

[compactelectra]

This Would Answer The Question

If you could only have one cleaner - what would it be. It would be two.  A Hoover upright from the 65-69 vintage and an Electrolux F, G or L.  I would be happy.

 

[hoovercelebrity]

Here's a shot I took while using the 65 last week...

 

[kirbylux77]

Fred Nelson:

I totally agree with you that an Electrolux canister should be in everyone's cleaning arsenal. Having said that, I would say a slightly different combination than the Hoover Convertible/Electrolux F, G, or L. My vote would go for a Royal upright from the 1960's or 1970's, & a Canadian Electrolux AP series canister, or a E2000 or 2100. Why? Well, the Royal Metal uprights would clean slightly better, with an easier bag change system then Hoover's C bags would have been. Plus the heavy-duty motor & commercial-grade construction that would be worth paying more for & lasting much longer. The Electrolux AP series....well that's due to the fact that they had the afterfilters on the exhaust, as well as better handle placement for easier carrying than the metal canisters had & less weight. Plus with the powerhead being optional, it could be easily be added later if desired. Yet those Electroluxes are just as powerful & durable & have the same legendary motors.

That's my opinion anyways. And your Hoover is absolutely beautiful....I'm sure you will be proud of it for many years to come.

Rob

 

[countryguy]

The lux '89 also has the after filters on the exhaust. I've never seen an '88 or '86 but I assume they would also since they are of the same design. I have an '89 and had an AP280 and I would take the '89 over the AP280 any day - the '89 has the telescopic wand, trigger switch on the handle, it is quieter and the hose does not have that annoying extra piece of plastic at the hose handle end. It is metal and the position of the handle is in a balanced position so it is easier to carry than the AP280. Just my opinion.

Gary

 

[compactelectra]

I Would Be Surprised

If a Royal could outclean a Hoover upright of that era. A few years ago when the cleaning competition was going strong the club had to create a separate category for the beater bar Hoovers due to the fact that they always proved superior to other vintage uprights in their cleaning ability due to the beater bars. Not sure how a new Royal would fare, but those beater bar Hoovers were hard to beat as far as cleaning ability.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

I appreciate the 67 much more than I used to

My father bought one 2 weeks before I was born. It was used and abused by everyone.
I got another one last year..right out of North Canton. It's beautiful.

 

[gottahaveahoove]

No deep scratches, either

Amazing how they lasted this long in such good condition

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Of course, the 'glam' shot.

It still has that HOOVER 'hum'. Fred, thanks for starting this thread.

 

[guardsman69]

john long why dont you post that beautiful 1960 ad introducing the new hoover 67 for 1960 or did you already have it framed.......what a perfect convertible you have .....and what an awesome convertible to kick off the the 1960s era convertibles......i hope your party preparations are going well.....you will certainly have the mini meet party of the year......is it clothing optional....ha ha oops i mean costume optional......

 

[gottahaveahoove]

Definitely NOT clothing optional.

We don't want 'fright night' or, "Nightmare on William Street".
I do have the ad framed, as well as having the owner's manual for the '67'. Amazing how they put the model on each booklet. I should have posted them both. The ad states, See the new HOOVER Convertible, for '60. Those Convertibles changed the world. Speaking of Convertibles, I better go and run a few.
John.

 

[kirbylux77]

Fred- You may very well be right about the Royals in the 1960's, only you guys that were around then would know for sure . Royal certainly has made improvements to the motor & brushroll over the years. I based my observation on my 1993 Royal Commercial 670CA, & my Royal Preferred 9100 from the early 1990's. Both have the 7-amp motor & brushroll with brush stiffeners, & take the Style B bag. I owned a Hoover Convertible from the late 1970's for a short while, as I had one given to me, & from what it performed like, the 2 Royals would absolutely DESTROY that Hoover on it's ability to clean carpets. I think the best ways to describe what Royals of today are like is it's like a Kirby on steroids, or a Turbocharged Kirby. And I love the fact that they are so much easier to push, as easy as my Kirby 519, yet they don't need a self-propelled transmission.

Gary: That same telescopic wand that the 89 used was also standard equipment with the AP100 when it was debuted in 1973 to replace the 89. Unfortunately, though, Electrolux switched to the standard wand setup with the AP200. Also, as much as I like the 89, I disagree with you on the handle....I have always felt that was the 89's biggest weakness & something the AP Series improved upon. And now, the 80 Series afterfilters are so thin, they don't offer much filtration....the AP afterfilters are much better in comparison. That would be a HUGE drawback for me, being an allergy sufferer, for the 89. In addition, the AP Series eliminated the pigtail cord on the hose, the AP100 introduced the new improved powerhead mid-run & the AP280 had the 2-speed motor switch, which would be ideal for anyone wanting to use it for situations that reduced motor speed is called for. And the issue of the AP Series hose being stiff, too short or having the rubber cuff on the handle end is practically eliminated, now that the new vinyl hoses are available, & the aftermarket version does have the switch that takes the place of the trigger switch. Speaking of which, another disadvantage for the 89 is that unless you know how to fabricate your own with an AP Series hose & 89 machine end, hoses are no longer available for the 89.

When I replied to Fred Nelson's answer to "If you could only have one cleaner" & his ideal combination, I was taking into account what would be an ideal combination for today's average consumer & their requirements & expectations. Gary, I totally agree with you, & I do prefer the 89 myself....but it wouldn't be as good for the average consumer in their homes, in my opinion. And that's just for 2 vintage cleaners....I still stand behind my statement that the Aerus Classic, which is the modern-day version of the AP Series, is an outdated design & Aerus needs to discontinue it. A Miele or Sebo would be a better contemporary choice.

Rob

 

[countryguy]

Rob,
As I said, we each have our own opinions and for me, I prefer the '89 to the AP280. I did make my own hose and the increase in suction is amazing. I rarely ever used the low speed on the AP280 - opening the suction relief valve accomoplished the same thing. Yes, the after filter is a little thin but I got around that by making my own from furnace filters. The '89 is also very quiet, compares to the Miele.

Gary

 

[compactelectra]

Rob

It would be interesting to put a Hoover 60 series against any machine for carpet cleaning.  I truly believe that it would be hard to beat.  I would agree that a later Hoover might suffer in the competition.  Those early Hoover convertibles are really hard to beat for deep carpet cleaning.  The first Hoover Concepts would give them a run  for their money, but the later Hoover Convertibles I can't speak for.


 


Stay tuned for another arrival at Tarantula Arms.  Just got a box from Charlie with a Hoover 66.  I understand this was from the Stachnik collection.  This fills in the series.  Yeah!

 

[kirbylux77]

Fred: Hmm, your observation is VERY interesting!!! Especially since I, admittedly, am not as knowledgeable as some others are about Hoover Convertibles, or the previous dirty-air Hoovers from the 40's & 50's for instance. If you don't mind me asking....just what did they do to these cleaners in the 60's to make them so superior, & more importantly, HOW did Hoover change it to make it's cleaning performance suffer?? And, also, which other cleaners besides the Hoover Concept would you pit a 1960's Convertible against in a cleaning challenge??

Gary: For starters, I most certainly respect your opinion, as I know you do mine. Having said that, I do prefer the 89, like I said, for it's simplicity & like you pointed out, it's metal body. Like I said before, my point was that the average person may not necessarily prefer the 89, though.

As for the speed control on the AP280....Just earlier this year, I had to have my Mom's AP280 motor changed & have an Ametek motor from a TriStar installed....this required giving up the 2 speed switch. There is a Ametek 2 speed motor available for the AP280, but I did not know it's waterlift & airflow ratings, & since I had a spare TriStar motor, that's what I elected for. I am beginning to think I am gonna regret that now, though, as I did use the 2-speed control all the time, & as a result, I now find myself having to use my 2nd pristine collectible AP280 on the occasion I need the speed control, or use my Shark, Miele or Sebo canisters.

With regards to the 89....one VERY interesting thing happened this morning! I was browsing Kijiji, seeing what was out there, & there was a man in Saskatoon looking to sell 12 2-packs of Electrolux 89 filters for $15 dollars. And these were the old-style thick woolly filters, not the new thin ones. So, needless to say, I contacted him immediately & have an arrangement with him to send out the filters. It will be nice to have a good supply of the old filters to use with the old Lux, that's for sure!

Rob

 

[compactelectra]

Some More Expert

Folks may chime in here, but I believe that the quality as well as the beater bars made the difference.  "It Beats, As It Sweeps, As It Cleans" was a winning combination.  The later Hoovers did away with the beater bars.  Not sure why.  All I know is that those Hoovers with the beater bars won over all other machines in the VCCC competitions.  Would be interesting to have a competition between it and all comers at the next convention.  I'll talk to the powers that be to see if it can be arranged.

 

[compactelectra]

One of Hoover's Ads

Describing the action.  Hoover later did away with the beater bars and did very well with the Concept brushes, but I still think this mechanism was the best.  It lasted for decades and made Hoover the success it was.  As John Long said, that "Hoover Hum" indicates it is moving the dirt up.   As I said, I think it was downhill from the 60 series.  The move to cost cutting and finally the move to China.  As with many companies, the quality deteriorated.  Still would like to match these machines up for cleaning against anything today.