Allergy Season-Dyson gets put up-Rainbow gets used

[williamr1248]

Allergy season has kicked in so I had to put my Dyson DC23 away for a few weeks and get out the Rainbow.
If I just had somebody to empty that darn Dyson dust bin!
I even tried CAREFULLY doing it in the garage. The sun was coming in the window and you could see the dust cloud.
I didn't know you could sneeze that many times!
When I was very young the allergy doctor told my parents to buy either a Rexair,Filter Queen or Air-Way. We already had an Air-Way so no new vacuum for us (darn).
Here we are some 50 plus years later and when allergy season arrives and I am still using my Rainbow,Air-Way.
It's not fun having dust allergies and loving to use your vacuums!!!

 

[vinvac]

Rob,

You are so right! Any bagless machine, regardless how careful you are, there is no way to prevent fine dust from re-entering the air. For those of us who suffer from allergies...it is even more pronounced.

Give me a bag any day. Most of the new allergy bags also come with either a self sealing bag such as Oreck or Miele, or like Air-Way or Air Tec which has a sticker attatched directly to the bag to cover the opening.

I can remember as a child being asked to empty the bag on mom's 508 Kirby. Sneeze for hours and end up with the hives after that...You don't forget the hives.....so that is why I am gun shy to any bagless vacuum.

Morgan

 

[turbomaster1984]

You guys are totally right.

What makes me laugh the most is that Dyson reccommend using a plastic bag to empty the dirt into but that is not only the most unevironmentally friendly way it also means you almost always have to buy bags anyway!

Very few people now get free carrier bags in supermarklets now we tend to reuse bags for life meaning you probably have to buy bin bags especially for the cause,

These can cost up to a good 40 or 50 pence EACH depending on which ones you buy and if you are not prepared to buy other ones specifically to empty your cleaner.

Considering a Miele or Sebo bag costs around £1 to £1.50 each the cost compared to using a 20/30p bin bag to empty the cleaner once or twice a week could potentially double the costs comapred to bagged cleaners.

So much for their NO CONSUMABLES marketing crap.

 

[vinvac]

People are buying into the gimmick..

They can see the dirt in a clear container...that is all that matters. The machines don't clean any better or maintain air flow any better than bagged models that use good quality bags.

People don't take care of the vacuum for the most part..ask any of our vacuum repair shop members...the stories they share at conventions...makes the hair stand on end. Most folks don't even realize they need to change a belt...LOL

As collectors, we know how the machines work, we know the proper way to care for the machine and we do. Makes all the difference in the world. People run machines until the bagged is packed, run bagless machines until they are past full and even the best bagless won't work well under those conditions.

Just my two cents!!!

 

[joe22]

thats why i love aerus lux, self sealing 4 ply bags, dirt stays inside the bag where is belongs.

 

[sireluxomatic]

Electrolux bags

Very true; the Electrolux bag is easy to change and dispose of. Under most conditions, the suction doesn't decrease noticeably with repeated usage, and as the bag gets full, due to the cyclonic action. I say "most" because there are times when I notice a drastic drop in suction, depending on what's being picked up, but then it tends to level off.

I've never used a Dyson or other bagless cleaner, so I can't compare.

 

[vinvac]

Lux bags have always been good bags! Self sealing..the new Perfect Style C Lux bag is awesome as well.

Every thing now is hiped up to make the buyer think they are getting a good product. There are two vacuums in my collection that are 2.85 to 3 amp motors, that will out clean most of the 12 amp machines being sold today. One of the machines is 65+ years old and still running strong. You are lucky now if a vacuum or any new appliance will last year or two.

My neighbor Eleanor is still using her Model 28 Hoover from 1947, the light bulb is still working and it is original. The brush roll bearings and motor bearings have never been touched...still spin smoothly and quietly...try that with a new machine. I replaced the brush strips two years ago and the vacuum is still doing her weekly cleaning...even the hose is in good shape along with all the tools. I showed her how to put a C Hoover bag inside the cloth bag and she loves it.

Times have changed and some for the better, but not every thing.

Morgan

 

[joe22]

3 amp

is it a royal or kirby. i love my early royals, they clean well and are MUCH quieter than the new china made 10 amps that scream.

 

[vinvac]

The 2.85 is a Royal and the other is my mothers 508 Kirby.

Not to mention good uprights,,,good with tools as well.

Morgan

 

[williamr1248]

Allergy Season-Dyson gets put up-Rainbow gets used

But I like my Dyson! It's just I can't mess with dumping the dirt for a few weeks. You guys brought up a good point. I never just dumped the bagless dirt in the garbage. I always got a clean plastic bag to dump the dirt.
Morgan, you are correct about some of the old machines. I don't think consumers today expect the machine to last over 2-3 years.
The thing that I don't understand is why so many of the vacuum makers are using such stiff brushes. Many of my older machines like the Hoover 28,Kirby upright and Electrlux canisters all have such nice soft horsehair brushes and yet they still clean so well. I could leave my old Hoover 28 on any of my rugs and never have any fuzzing or damage to the rugs. As a matter of fact,I never worried about rug damage until the last few years with some of my new machines.
I used my Rainbow today (which has soft brushes and beater bar) and I noticed how much sand it pickes up in the water pan. Never a dust oder with my Rainbow.

 

[mark40511]

Yesterday, I brushed both cats, then vacuumed everything with my Kenmore canister (with hepa bag)....After vacuuming I had planned on changing the bag since it was about due to be changed. I opened the thing up and the bag was (half on) the collar!!!!!! Half the dirt was going in the bag and half in the bin itself. What a MESS.......I don't understand how that happened but I sneezed like crazy and I felt like I had spent an hour vacuuming for nothing.

 

[kenkart]

Dyson!

All you have to do is tear one down that is a few years old!,that so called cyclonic seperation really is not as good as it should be,the motors and after filters are full of fine dust and sand, AirWays Electroluxes and FilterQueens will be clean even if they are 50 years old,To my mind, new technology is not always better!

 

[sireluxomatic]

I certainly can't comment on the effectiveness of the Dyson system, but in all fairness, its a little early to tell whether or not they'll still be running 50 years from now.

As for the Perfect "Electrolux" bags, I wondered about trying them out in some of my Luxes, but they're quite a bit thicker, aren't they? I'd hate to overheat the motor in one of my "babies".

 

[sireluxomatic]

Oops-o-matic!

My mistake, Hans; I must have thought you said "AirWays, Electroluxes and Filter Queens will be CLEANING even if they are 50 years old". Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see if current Dysons are still running in 50 years.