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@blackheart, that mini power nozzle looks pretty much identical to the Wessel-Werk MEB160. Well except for the neck. It would be great to find those necks for various vacuums manufactures so you can buy aftermarket power accessories and have them connect up to your vacuum of choice with the right neck.
 
I don't see how you dislike Miele. I think this post is getting controversial, as people love their Mieles.
 
getting controversial ???

Why is that ? Can`t people express their views ? Thats why they make many vacuums we all like what we like .

I don`t like Miele big deal thats my choice it`s not getting controversial it`s George needs a vacuum and thats it .

Seems like some just like to start things where there is nothing .
 
<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">How about a TriStar?  The new CS canister is the MOST POWERFUL vacuum currently made that you'll ever find; & the ENTIRE canister & PN housing are made of die-cast magnesium.</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Or U can go for a rebuilt TriStar CXL; they too are super-powerful.  Another advantage of the older TriStar vacuums is U can use universal 1<sup>1</sup>/<sub>4</sub>" tools.  Even a Wessel Werk HEB160 mini ELECTRIC PN will work on a CXL TriStar.</span>


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<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">All TriStar vacuums can even survive a nuclear blast.
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I beg to differ about the storage of tools on the new Aerus Guardian Platinum: you can only store the crevice tool and the combination upholstery nozzle/dusting brush on the wand. I have always found this storage method inconvenient and annoying since the tools get in your way when you are trying to clean under furniture or high up on mouldings. As well, the combination tool needs to be attached with an adapter and I'm not sure where that adapter is stored. Aerus provides no way to store the floor brush or the mini power nozzle on board like the Kenmore canisters do.

For the money you pay for this vac, Aerus should really include a full-size tool carrier that can store everything including extra bags, filters and the instruction manual....

Just my thoughts on this downside to the Aerus Platinum....
 
Valid points....

I think the Sebo D4 canister is the only one I am aware of at the moment that you can actually get all the accessories on board, including the floor brush which can attach to the back parking slot. Maybe the Riccar canisters can too, Im not sure though
 
George, where in CT?

I just went through all of this and l listened to everyone. It drove me nuts learning, but it forced me to try everything and that made up my mind quickly. I too am in CT and there were some shops I'd never step foot in again.

I like the Miele, except for all the reasons you didn't like it, lol. I didn't like the Simplicity/Riccar either and I tried them again yesterday and even the guy who sells them steered me away from them. His store demo wasn't too old and the cheap plastic around the hose for stress relief was already cracked. He told me that is the third demo that's happened too and that was done to correct the bad hose design. He's also seen a few come back because their controls on the handle kept breaking. He only will keep the line because the older people in FL like US made and that's all they'll look at. Even though the parts are sourced elsewhere, it's still a US company.

I bought the D4 and love it. Long hose, long cord, best power head I personally used but the Aerus is close. Not sure in a head to head who would win. It's plenty powerful as the hose is wider at the base unit creating a Venturi effect. It's L shaped and gets under all my furniture. It's also built like a tank and the filters are as good if not better than anything on the market. The little blue suction light is kind of cool. I thought I'd hate it at first, but I like it. Get white so it won't show scratches, lol. I have a demo black, but it still is looking new.

I did a full bag test of the D4, Capricorn and Moxie. D4 was the only one that didn't really lose any suction. With full bags the other two didn't work for crap. It's like a bagged cyclonic deal. They won some award in Germany for their suction design etc.. Go to www.govacuum.com and see their video's on the Sebo D4. It's their pic for vacuum of the year. I only tried the turbo brush in the store, but it was on a shag and a deep pile and we put dirt down and rubbed it in deeply. We used the Miele and Moxie turbo heads and then cleaned the D4 bag and we picked up enough dirt to make me think their design may be a bit better. Not sure if it was a good test, but the guy in the store wasn't surprised as he sells the Sebo turbo head and the power nozzle with all his central vacuum systems. It's what most of the hospitals in Germany use.

I've learned a great deal about vacuums over here, but I've learned SO much more going to the stores and playing with all of them. The store I went to yesterday sells new, demo or sometimes used Filter Queen, TriStar, Sebo, Rainbow (had a newer one there), Riccar, Miele, Royal and many others. He's owned the stores he owns for ages. I asked him what he uses at home..........he uses the D4. Has used all the others and in the end he loves the new Sebo and said it's the best he's sold as they never come back. Said even Miele will have a bad run every now and then, but not too often. Said he gets all the Riccars back for small stuff. He likes Royal better than it's parent company's offerings, but has had a couple come back, but he said that it's not worth the price for what you are getting. Said the lower cost Panasonic has a poor motor that will last 3-5 years and he's seen a few back for motors within the first 90 days. To me that says something about the QC. I was in there getting my dads Panasonic fixed.

You should check out the jumbo thread we had/have going. NYC Writer started it as he was looking. I personally now like the Lux and Sebo D4 the best, but that's me. You may hate both.

The best advise I can share is to go play with all the vacuums in your price range and bring your own bag of dirt and crap. Force them to fill everyone's bag at least half full and then do the pick up the screws test to see which one keeps suction. That can be a telling test. If they have those filters the Kirby guys use that show how much dirt they pick up AFTER someone else's vac has been used, you could go that route too. I really liked what we did with the turbo brush as I too though I would need a powered head and that limited me to the vacs I ruled out even though I could have gotten them for a GREAT price. I found a guy in CT who gave me a great price on my Sebo and am happy.
 
Well eurekaprince, I don't know what to tell ya.... The tools are ON THE MACHINE. Just because you don't LIKE where they are located doesn't mean they are not there. That doesn't render the Platinum obsolete nor does it make a Kenmore superior to it. Frankly, that's pretty normal in the vac industry to provide those tools on board and many are putting them on the wands these days, including Hoover's Platinum. People can find anything to complain about if they nitpick. Some people here complain because they are IN the machine as well (they might have to bend over). The perfect machine doesn't exist, but no real vacuum person would call a Kenmore superior to an Aerus/Electrolux. Just about any vacuum salesman can attach a particle counter to a Kenmore with dirt in it's bag and a Miele with dirt in it's bag and show the Miele at zero and a Kenmore at 600,000. They don't filter well regardless of what consumer reports says.
 
The only Aerus tool that requires an adapter is the combo upholstery/dusting brush, which is stored on the wand caddy also... Incidently, it looks like Kenmore is putting some of it's tools on the wand handle area also, and using a "bulky" handle to enable multiple uses like Aerus ( hose handle into power nozzle, tools, wand, etc...) Kenmore's intuition doesn't have a power nozzle headlight... While it's Progressive doesn't have a variable speed motor. We're all hoping Aerus will update some of it's features further, but a perfect machine doesn't exist and perhaps never will...
 
The Kenmore Intuition does indeed have a headlight - it's actually placed on the lower tip of the wand - which is a nice feature since you then have illumination on your cleaning surface when using the floor brush or any other attachment connected to the telescopic wand. It's time for Aerus to start including innovative conveniences like this on their vacuum cleaners.

I think all vacmakers should provide a handy tool carrier as part of their deluxe canister packages. If a customer is spending over $700 on a power nozzle canister, they deserve to have a convenient way of storing every accessory including bags and filters. Just my humble opinion....:-)
 
I'm up in Berlin and went all over

You'd be happy with either machine. As long as you put them through your OWN paces and come up with real tests and not the ones they design for you to show off special traits of their favorite machine or the one they want to get rid of, you'll do fine. Do make sure you check out the www.govacuum.com video's on the D4. The guys knows what he's talking about. Since the mini brush is so important, get a scrap of your carpeting if you can and dirty the whole thing up at home. Bring extra with you. Use talc powder, baking soda, flour, heaver grain salt and course sugar. Then get some mud and dirt and let it dry into the carpet after you've smushed it into it. do a side by side and check the bags right after. Then clear the bag and use each one over there you did the other one and see which one pics up what the other didn't and see what type either left behind. Did either get bogged down? A mini PN may be a must for you and your carpet,but these new machines seem really powerful and should be able to not get too bogged down as long as they are designed properly. I played with the Sebo mini head for just a small bit and I'll be getting one. I won't get teh off brand one I don't thini.

Sebo guy, which mini head do you use? Have you seen a difference between Sebo turbo or the knock off that may fit?
 

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