A few pics of my Dyson and Vacuum cleaner collection.

[dyson89]

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[turbo500]

Hi Matthew,

Nice collection, thanks for sharing. Your collection looks great. Although, personally, I'd much rather use any of those cleaners in the last photo than the Dysons. Except maybe the Oreck .

Thanks,
Chris

 

[Jakesvacs]

Very Nice collection! All your Dysons look in great condition!

 

[dyson89]

Urrrm,,

I agree to a point, the Oreck is there purely as I was given it. My Sebo Felix Fun was my daily driver until the cable snapped in the handle and the power head developed an intermittent fault. The Kirby I love but don't really get on with. The Icon had wonderful suction loss, but I love the direct drive agitator. But I would use a DC07 any day.

I like to restore my dyson to close as original condition. Tools instructions etc.

To be fair the camera did a wonderful job of removing some scratches. Lol

Having looked at the photos I uploaded I missed off my DC02 Clear, DC04 constant Max silver and lime and also my DC05 Motörhead.

 

[turbo500]

But I would use a DC07 any day

Eeek, sorry Matthew, I'm the total opposite. I'd rather not use a Dyson at all, but the 07 is particularly horrid IMO.

Of the 5 Dyson's my Grandparents have owned, the 07 was the most unreliable, the most poor performing and the loudest.

I love that everyone on here has differing opinions - makes it so interesting .

 

[dyson89]

Well I'm happy to share thoughts.

I favour the DC07 for its 300 air watts, reversible wand and the CLIC has the awesome colour scheme.

As you know mine, what's your machine of choice?

 

[turbo500]

My grandma has burnt her way through 5 Dyson's since 97. A DC01, DC04 Silver Lime, DC07 Animal, DC15 All Floors and a DC27 Animal. The DC07 lasted just over a year and after about 2 months of use, the root cyclone design completely clogged up with pet hair and blocked all the suction. That does seem to be an issue that Dyson resolved from the DC14 onwards, but caused major issues on my Grandma's 07. I've also seen it happen on many others over the years too.

I much prefer bagged vacuums. I find bagless far too messy and unhygenic. The whole process of emptying the dust bin and having to wash the filters, all harks back to the days of cloth shake out bags more than technology for me. My collection is older vacs from the 70's - 90's. In the house, we have 2 Sebo X1.1 uprights (standard white model and a red Euronics exclusive) that get used day to day and a Numatic George in the garage for car cleaning, wet pick up and shampooing.

 

[dyson89]

Well that's a lot of hoovers....

I know the early 07s had cyclone issues but the were resolved. The CLIC I had never let me down. My mums DC07 Animal is coming up 10 years old and still going strong as an upstairs vacuum.

It's funny some are a pain from the start and others last forever.

The X1 is the less powered X4 , but while they are quality vacuums the electronic height adjustment up and down all the time I really would disable. Great feature to compensate for brush ware though.
The Felix has manual adjustment so I left it on 1 to get a deep clean.

Do you favour the paper bags or the new cloth like filter bags from Sebo?

 

[turbo500]

I've owned both the X1.1 and the X4. My in laws also own the X4. Having used both, there is absolutely no noticeable power difference.

The auto height adjustment tends to divide opinions. Personally, I love it and I've never had a problem with it not deep cleaning or with it moving constantly. On both our X1's, it only moves when moving between floor types and once it's stopped, that's it. It doesn't move then until we move to another carpet. However, I know others have reported this happening so maybe it depends on the carpet being vacuumed.

I do notice occaisionally the carpet height sensor light will light up, but only for a few seconds and not actually long enough for the brushroll to move. Possibly a built in feature to give the user the impression that the machine is "constantly sensing"?

Personally, I'd rather use the computer controlled height adjustment than the floating head.

We haven't actually moved onto the new fabric bags yet. I still have a heap of paper ones left. The bags are enourmous and constantly compacting the dirt, so you can really cram them full. The last time I replaced it, you could've put someones window through with it lol. I'm eager to try them out though and see if there is any noticable difference. They certainly made all the difference to the Felix. My Mum has a Felix Navy and uses the fabric bags - they really are fantastic.

 

[dysonman1]

Excellent Dyson Collection: Love them all. With the exception of your DC04 ConstantMAX, I have the same models you do. The Vacuum Cleaner Museum is blessed to have one of every model Dyson (although, perhaps not all the color variations within the model range). Congratulations.

Here's a pic of the very first production model Dyson ever, the Cyclon1000.

 

[dyson89]

OMG...

Turbo500

Gosh you make me laugh, about cramming the bags full! Don't you notice a real loss of suction at that stage.

When I had my Felix I used to change the bag when there was a good handful in the bottom. Living in a 2 bedroom 18th century cottage that would be about a months worth of hoovering for me.

Thinking back I may have used a faulty x4 with the height adjustment, if itmwas going up and down all the time.

Dysonman1

Thank you for the kind comments, but how come you do not like the DC04 constant max?

WOW a Cyclon1000 I would LOVE one of these, you lucky guy.

Does it still fire up? If you had any more close up pics of it I would love to see them? I originally set out to have one of every Dyson production model but I don't like all of them, so I only collect the ones I like.

 

[sebo_fan]

Ah I can see the Oreck now - nice collection too!

 

[turbo500]

Don't you notice a real loss of suction

No, not at all. At least, not so much of a suction drop to hinder performance.

This all boils down to Dyson marketing, but since you're a Dyson fan, I won't go there.

I've never used a vacuum that, other than getting blocked, will not perform to an acceptable standard with a full bag. Even with a choked up bag, the suction has always been enough to clean a carpet. This is especially true of the Sebo X series as the filter runs up the side of the bag and is not sat underneath it, so the suction motor does not have a full bag of dust ontop of it.

I mean, how much suction do you think it takes to clean a carpet? You're only picking up dust and grit, not bricks. Dustmites don't wear seatbelts, ya know .

So, whereever possible, I will cram the bag full.

18th century cottage? Be still my beating heart - sounds lovely! We're in a 3 story, 3 bedroom new build, so total opposite.

 

[dyson89]

You are hilarious !!!

Your comment of dust mites and seat belts had me in stitches!!
And you may have changed my mind about the X series, as you may sustain higher suction thanks to an upright filter. Clever idea.

But on the premis of performance would we all not be happy with an unbranded 'value' range machine of say 1200w if it's just dust and grit were after ?? Lol

You welcome to talk about Dyson marketing it might educate me, so far it's 1 point to Sebo 0 to Dyson ! Lol

I'm not sure I've encountered that much marketing to sway me to them. Let me know your thought anyway.


18th century cottage might be lovely, but it takes a lot of upkeep.

I would swap on the premis of space. I have no where for my Hoovers or my 1930s upright Windsor piano :-(

 

[parwaz786]

Loving the collection! I have a Dyson DC01 Destijl
DC04 Lime, owned new in 2011
DC07 Standard, 2001 one of the first made with the roung, grey plug
DC07 Origin from July 2005 (older than I thought, it has the reinforced cyclone top, with the number "2" cyclone, Derooted.
DC14 All floors in white and orange
That's it,

 

[gsheen]

Hi Mathew


 


That's a great collection, I have many of the models you have too. I have the all of them on display in my showroom in my vacshop. We are huge dyson supporters.


 


Here are some of my ones.


 


Gareth 

 

[turbomaster1984]

welcome Matthew!

Hellow Matthew,

Great collection there!

Love the Icon and Felix. The bagged Icons are much better for performance than the bagless, worth pickingone up if you come across one cheap somewhere.

Are youon Facebook? Feel free to add any of us as friends and theres also a UK based vac collectors group there if you need quick direct access to any help or answers about whatever

Rob

 

[dysondestijl]

Lov the collection! I am a dyson fan too. Here are some of mine:

 

[dyson89]

Hello out there

Thanks everyone for the pics and nice comments.

Hi rob. I picked the bag less icon for it's filter wipers as it seemed a novel idea. But the suction is rapidly lost I would like a bagged purple and white model if I can get one. Mine is complete with box and instructions.

I'm on facebook www.facebook.com/med.cruiser
Perhaps if you add me you could point me in the direction of the group.

Gareth, your showroom looks awesome, and I have a plan to visit my god parents in Durban and pop over to your shop if my plan comes together. I would like to use my DC15 allergy more as it is one of my faves.

I'm so excited, tomorrow i get a DC02 Clear and I'm going for a full refurb

 

[turbo500]

Let me know your thought anyway.

Well, I'm not trying to point score or anything or brand-bash. I've always said, if you want bagless, then get a Dyson. They're the only brand that do it well, really. But bagless just isn't for me.

Dyson created a problem for people that never existed. Prior to Dyson coming on the scene, was anybody really all that bothered about changing their vacuum bag? We just did it and got on with it. Infact, disposable paper bags were added to vacuums to make them easier and more hygienic to empty. Prior to this, vacuums all had cloth, shake out bags where the user would have to stand the cleaner over the bin and shake all the dust out of the cloth bag.

The success of Dyson, in the early years anyway, was purely down to latching onto the market gap for bagless. Seeing the adverts planted a tiny seed of doubt in the consumers mind and everytime they vacuumed, it grew. This made the whole "no loss of suction" thing a lot bigger than it actually was, because although bagged vacuums do lose some suction, it's not enough to stop it picking up well. And if you remember, Dyson adverts were EVERYWHERE in the late 90's. This is in a similar way to how Vax carpet washers were all over the place in the late 80's/early 90's. The ad campaign did just the same thing and started off a craze of carpet washing, that prior to Vax hitting the market, nobody had really thought or cared about. It was a gimmick and people quickly realized it was a pain in the ass to do lol.

It's also especially important to note that the DC01 was not actually very good. 90 air watts on the hose, a mediocre brushroll at best and not the best build quality, yet it came with (at the time) a whopping £200 price tag and quickly outsold every other cleaner, despite the fact that vacuums on the market at the time retailing at half that were better cleaners. Why? Because he promoted the hell out of his product.

The clear bin was completely added on purpose. It is very deceiving as it makes the user think there's heaps of dust coming out of the carpet. Well of course it may look like there's lots, it's been spun around in a cyclone and whipped up. But if you vacuum a full Dyson bin up into a bagged cleaner, you'll find there's very little actually there.

My other big objection to Dyson is the price. I mean, the current DC41 is retailing at £400 but it's such a flimsy, poorly constructed heap of cheap plastic. I don't think the price tag reflects the quality of the machine you get.

So that's my Dyson 2 penneth. Bit of a rant. Go pop an ansprin, you'll feel better . I know there are lots of Dyson fans here and I'm not brand bashing. I love that everyone here has differing opinions and what works well for some, might not for others (eg. Sebo auto height adjustment as a prime example). But I honestly believe that when James Dyson starts spouting off saying that his product caught on purely because it was good? RUBBISH. The DC01 and DC02 were terrible performers and any other cleaner on the market at the time would have out-cleaned it.

As for your comment about unbranded value vacs, once upon a time, one could've spent any amount on a vacuum and it would have done a relatively good job. The cheap cleaners of the 80's and 90's were Goblin Commander's, Lasers and Rios, but these weren't poor performers. In those days, you'd have paid more for a better built machine rather than higher performing, although of course the design of the actual cleaner does play a big part also. The difference between a cheap bagged upright and an expensive bagged upright is far less than the difference between top and bottom end bagless.

By the way, I hope you don't mind, but I sent you a friend request on Facebook .

 

[gsheen]

Mathew 


 


You are more than welcome to come visit, Cape Town is about 1600km away from Durbs but If you fly into SA you can choose to land here first then on to Durban. My shop is about 15 min from the airport so even if you let me know you are waiting for a connecting flight I can come fetch you and show you my shop and collection. 


 


 


 


 

 

[dyson89]

Gareth,,,

Awww that's such a kind offer. Thank you. Now the reasons to come to S A are even more

 

[dysonman1]

Vacuum Cleaner bags were horrible in the late 1970's when James designed the first cyclonic vacuum. You have to realize that the one ply cellulose bags clogged almost instantly. Most vacuum cleaners, after 10 or 15 minutes of use, had no airflow left.

While Dyson started talking about "no loss of suction" in 1993 with the DC01, in the United States, we started talking about it in November of 1936 when the Rexair hit the market. It had no water, was dual cyclonic, and had no loss of suction. After the water was added (and they changed the name to Rainbow), it was the most popular vacuum due to the fact there was no odor and no loss of suction / airflow while cleaning.

Dyson didn't invent no loss of suction vacuums, Rexair did. Unlike the Dyson, the Rainbow is clean when stored, and all the dirt can be washed from the basin after each use. Cleaning the Dyson cyclones is time consuming, and once you use it for just one minute, the fine dust collector portion is dirty again.

 

[gsheen]

I remember my moms Hoover Turbomaster, with a new bag in that machine was a beast and you had to set the hight adjustment to 3 just so you could move it. within 2 days though you could set it back to 2 and move it around with ease. The biggest test was the hardfloor vacuuming. With a new bag it cleaned very well on the hardfloor but as soon as a few days had past it no longer had the power to do so. 


 


It was because of dyson that manufacturers started to do more research in to vacuum bags and improving them.


 


I am not a huge fan of water filtration in my daily vacuuming( a bit time consuming and I am a upright person ) But that is one of the best things about a Rainbow is you store it clean fresh and ready for its next use


 

 

[baglessball]

Hey Tom, have I read that wrong or is there a cyclonic 1936 Rexair machine? I am interested to see.

Chris, on a few occasions I have seen that you mention that James Dyson created a problem that didn't exist. Where did you get that information from?

From what I remember, for a lot of people it wasn't about no loss of suction. It was about bagless. For a lot of people buying bags was/is inconvenient. Why else would people of bought the Turbomaster freedom? I get Mieles in for service, and there problem? They need a new bag. The owners don't like the price of the new ones, or aren't sure which to buy so spend time pulling out all that crap through the tiny little bag hole.

Also, remember that at that time most bags were reusable. I can remember machine that were poor performers as the same bag had been used in them for years! And I know that Dyson's don't compact dirt. But if you use one in a home where a neglected vacuum had been used you could pick bin after bin full of dirt. Even a new bag and belt couldn't compete with the dust load that had been left in the carpet, well, unless the bag were changed frequently, but often, by the average user, they are not.

Dysons were popular in my home town way before Dyson went crazy with advertising. It was all word of mouth.

I know some prefer bags as well, that's fine. I think that both bag and bagless have there pros and cons. Well, for me anyway.

 

[dysonman1]

World's first vacuum cleaner with no loss of suction

Here is the 1936 Rexair Series A. It did NOT use water. As the dirt was inhaled along with the air, the separator (the slotted cone on the bottom of the motor) created an extremely fast cyclone, spinning the dirt to the sides of the container, and separating the fine dust from the air stream.

In March, 1937, Rexair added water and a new bearing plate (with a bearing shield) to the machine, and sold it as the first water filtration vacuum in the world. To operate properly, a water filtration vacuum MUST HAVE a SEPARATOR. There are many that do not have it, like the Thermax, and they do a terrible job of filtering.

 

[baglessball]

Oh!

And dyson89, nice collection!

And I have a question for you too! The filter wash indicators on the DC04 constant Max's, does it work well? How much does the suction have to drop before it kicks in? Does it come on when you cover the hose? Do you have any pictures of it? And in the filter chamber where it sits?

Thanks muchly!

 

[baglessball]

Interesting!

Cheers for that Tom.

 

[ultimatevacman]

I'm not a Dyson fan myself, but I must say, you have a great collection!