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rainbowvacfane2

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Hi there I’ve been looking at all the post here lately but never really posted anything till recently I’ve been using Household vacuums for commercial use because I just started my cleaning business and I don’t have enough accounts to justify a heavy duty industrial vacuum yet and I don’t want to abuse my powr-flite so I got this Hoover Windtunnel 3 pro pet at goodwill for 8$ I used this along with 4 powerfroces 2 bagged 2 bagless over all I always end up reaching for the Hoover I love it the power is there the features are all there and the filters stay clean for a pretty long time and I got 2 extra brushrolls so that’s why I picked it what do you guys think what vac do you think would hold up in this use

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Life expectancy in the home for that machine is about a year. If you maybe it along wash the filter regularly and change the HEPA filter at least every month you should be good for that whole year you'll probably need a brush roller and belt in a few months. Hoover does make some very reasonably priced commercial machines the hushtone13+ is an amazing value.
 
Hi Rainbowvacfane2

One thing favoring your pursuit of long life is the surfaces you're
cleaning. Low pile synthetic glued-down carpet without pet hair
or pebbles to contend with, will surely extend the life of any
vacuum you choose. Especially if you take a moment to broom the rug
at the outside entrance (if this place is on the ground floor).
This will rid the rug of all damaging debris, and it just takes a sec.

Oh, and watch those nasty paper clips, too. A headlight on the vac
would help. And, auto stores sell a tool that's a magnet on a long
spring. Handy to shove under desks.
 
Great for you!

I had a cleaning business once. I used a Kenmore until I had enough capital to buy a Hoover Conquest with the magnet and side clean out port.
I was able to sell it when I liquidated.
 
If you are going to run a cleaning business, you really need a machine that will stand up to heavy use for a long period of time with only basic maintenance like belt and brushroll.


 


You need something like this:


 

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Making you money

Hello All and Rainbowvacfane2,
So if an $8.00 to say $50.00 plastic machine only last you a year as long as it is cleaning good for that year it was a good investment for a startup company.
Good luck with your cleaning service. Wow how many $8.00 working machines can you buy with $400.00. You could have a few people working for you.
Side note, I have a Shark Navigator I bought at a local thrift shop for $35.00. I repaired one of the latches and cleaned it up and I have to say it does a better job than the new Kirby that cost tons more. I know the Kirby will outlive the Shark and most likely me.
Thank you for looking,
Pete
 
@sptyks generally speaking for commercial use you want to avoid direct air machines like that Royal, Kirby&Oreck . Especially with that Royal now that most of them are Chinese machines the aluminum is quite cheap and far more prone to breaking when you accidentally suck up a rock or a paperclip. Plus they tend to eat belts.
Going with a commercial bypass machine like a windsor ,SEBO or Hoover will be less money up front and in the long run. Plus not having belts and fans to break.
 
how about a backpack

There's always the backpack vacuums to consider, now, granted, I may be a bit biased because I love canister vacuums of all kinds, but, you can clean much faster with a backpack than you can with an upright. I'd go with a larger 10 quart model, you will be changing the bag less often. Interestingly, most backpacks do not come with electric power nozzles, but there is a kit available that will allow almost all backpacks to use an electric power nozzle, or you could get the Volt battery powered nozzle, avoid the turbo brushes, they are noisy and clog easily since everything goes through the turbine. I love using a backpack to clean my apartment, very fast and efficient.
Mike
 
Oreck vacuums are great for daily use. That's why so many hotels and other businesses used them. Granted they work best on the carpets you find in hotels and businesses (low pile), they work perfectly fine on most home carpets and other floor types. They are simple to repair, lightweight, and belts/brushrolls can be had for cheap.
 
@vacuumdevil:


 


"for commercial use you want to avoid direct air machines like that Royal, Kirby&Oreck . Especially with that Royal now that most of them are Chinese machines the aluminum is quite cheap and far more prone to breaking when you accidentally suck up a rock or a paperclip. Plus they tend to eat belts." 


 


That statement couldn't be further from the truth! 


 


First off, I own the Royal 8300 shown in the picture above and I can attest that even though it was made in China in 2008, the quality of the materials and workmanship is of the same quality that Royal has always been known for. TTI has committed to keep the quality of Royal metal vacuums the same as it always was.


 


Second, TTI has moved Royal production from China back to Louisiana in the US and the quality of materials and workmanship is the same as it was when TTI first purchased the company in 2002. 


 


Third, It is a well known fact that Direct air vacuum cleaners are the preferred type of vacuum cleaner of commercial cleaning companies in the US not only because of their superior cleaning ability but also because of their simple design which makes them extremely easy to maintain. It is also false that they eat belts. I only need to replace the belt in my 8300 about one a year with daily use. Also the curved blades of the metal fan allow it to easily pass small objects such as pebbles and paper clips directly into the bag. Replacing the fan because of damage is a rare occurrence!


 


 


 
 
@sptyks I'd like to know where you get your information from?
Because I actually sell royal Vacuums in the store I work at and have for years.
We have not one cleaning person who uses them or Kirby's. The only direct air machines left in commercial cleaning service are, some santaires, kolblenz uprights & the Oreck U2000.
Also the 2015-2016 2017 current model Royal metal uprights are made in China and don't compare to the 1980s us-made Royal machines if you ever get a chance to use one of those. Which clearly you haven't. The sound difference is like nails on a chalkboard.

Most cleaning services used bypass machines most maids in hotels and resorts use bypass machines. For good reason. Commercial vacuum sales can back those numbers up.
Just Google commercial vacuums and see how many director machines come up not many.

I know none of those are as pretty or as tactically nice as a Royal or Kirby but you can't recommend something for business based on looks and your opinion with the few amount of vacuum cleaners you've touched probably never serviced
 
Most of the commercial vacuums in my area are Sanitiares.There are some Royals.Again-any of these machines are simpler and quicker to maintain.Backpacks can do a great job on HARD floors-an upright is better for carpeted flooring.And they are just easier to use.No heavy machine on your back!Also the Port-A-Vacs made up by the greenville Vacuum and Sewing are catching on in the area.Churches here love themIts essentially an MD central vacuum unit mounted on a janitor cart.I have two at home and two at work.The only disadvantage to these is they clog at the inlet to the MD unit.They work well with a Volt powernozzle.I use mine with the Volt nozzle.Most of the churches here that have the Pot-O-Vacs have hard floors.The cartr allows you to carry other supplies with you as you work.This is handy at work-have two Port-O-Vacs there,too.
 
Heeeheeee!

Post # 10 makes me laugh. Thats the way I stare at something I also have no idea how to use. I don't tweet personally.
Sebo is great for vacuming a dusty Trumpy bear too.
Go clean house.
 
@vacuumdevil:


 


Pay close attention to this video starting at 35 seconds in and continuing on and you will see that the Royal commercial vacuum is the best selling commercial vacuum in this market area.


 


Using a Direct Air machine for commercial carpet cleaning is the only way to go. Using a bypass air machine for commercial carpet cleaning is definitely not ideal especially where ease of maintenance is concerned.


 





 


 
 
Just a side note about the above video...

I live in New Jersey, and am only about 10-15 minutes from Keith -

Great, Great Guy - I have purchased all of my Miele's and Sebo's, and back in the day, my Royal Canister from Him -

When The Power Switch crapped out on my TOL Miele Upright, and Miele told me is was not covered by the Warranty, Keith got them to cover it for me -

If anyone lives in the area, or wants to buy on line, you can't go wrong talking with Keith -

Dan
 
The Trump video doesn't work.Would like to see it.
For the Royal-the main problem is the NOISE-other wise its the most effective vacuum out there.The models with the 7A motors were plenty enough.the 10A models aren't that much better and make more noise.I have both.not much if any difference in ability between them.You can carry a spare belt on the bag chain.So if you blow a belt its right there-you can carry the belt lifter tool on the chain,too.I have seen a Royal sales rep deliberately pick up pennys with a Royal vacuum.It had the grey dump bag-he dumpted them out-the pennies were all bent up.Next he undid the fancase and showed us the fan-it was like only one blade on it was slightly bent.This would have destroyed a Kirby fan.At one time both vac places here had a bucket full of blown Kirby fans.They came in bunches.With any of these-I take care what I pick up.Some folks don't.
 

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