1975 Electrolux Super J

[aeoliandave]

That's sure what it looks like to me! With the original off-white vinyl weave hose with blue & gold stripes and gold flavored chrome PN...and if it's not the correct hose what does it matter?

Found it on Kijiji tonight in the Woodstock area for $20. Messaged the man, got the reply, we chatted on the phone and I'll be picking it up Saturday night at 7PM. The Golden cLUXing Chicken has laid the egg and it's hatching...

I know, I know, wait until I have it grasped in my actual trembling hands...but it's too exciting.

 

[luxg]

Wow Dave, I don't think I have ever seen a lux power nozzle with a golden hood. Is this a Canadian machine?

 

[collector2]

I can answer that one The last of the Super J's had the gold PN 4 and a yellow hose (as opposed to the earlier ones that had a chrome PN 4 and a white hose). While they did sell the Super J here it was still made in the USA.

Incidentally the Super J's were sold in Canada in 1976/77 (along with Golden J's, 1205's and some Olympia 1 and 2's) while our factory was on strike. Apparently Electrolux Canada brought in all the old stock machines from the US to keep the sales force selling. This resulted in a huge ammount of repacked machines with mismatched parts which did NOT go over well with the salesmen. You still frequently find Golden J's with mixtures of blue and white parts.

 

[aeoliandave]

Is this a Canadian machine?

Terry, I believe the 1205, Golden J & Super J are USA models only. Doug Smith's USA Lux sections shows the Super J with a goldtone PN. And a yellow hose alongside the off-white striped hose!

After the Canadian 30/50/80 series we had the AP series which continued to use the same flipover tool in matching colours right up to the mid 1980s.

So, here's my question for tonight....

I ran up to the partz bins where I knew I had a banana yellow combination Floor Tool - replacing the flipover nozzle - that was introduced in the USA with the 1954 Model E. I have that same combo tool in matching colours with my E, AE, G and blue 1205. The 1205 and the yellow combo tool have a fixed knurled gleaner rod, unlike the previous E/AE/G flippable gleaner rod.

My questions are, does this yellow Combination floor tool go with the Golden J and Super J, and if so, when was this style of floor tool discontinued with which Model Lux? And when did the the gleaner bar change from the rotatable on/off slotted type to fixed & knurled?

I recall that Dr. Rick Crevicetool was selling Electroluxii when the Super J was introduced and I'll have to go find that thread...

 

[aeoliandave]

Thanks, Doug!

 

[sireluxomatic]

I have great childhood memories of the Super J. An aunt had one with the white hose and the silver PN, and my grandmother had one with the yellow hose and gold PN. Of course, you can imagine what I did when I went visiting...busted out the Super J and cleaned house from top to bottom. The same aunt, early on, also had an 89, so I always enjoyed visiting there.

Strangely enough, I don't think I ever used the combo rug/floor tool or the upholstery/dusting tool.

 

[tristar]

Gleaner Bar...

I know that my 1205 has the fixed gleaner bar, so at least in the early 70's they switched. It may have been earlier, but I don't have a machine between the AE and the 1205!

 

[aeoliandave]

It is a Super J !!

Took me a while to get back home because of a bit of dumpster diving and passed through a small town obviously having a free junk on the curbside weekend...more on that later as the stuff is still in the car - it's dark out.

But I did bring the Super J inside and gave it a fast once over with a damp towel.

The fellow, who restores old muscle cars for a living, had a carry caddy of tools he said his Mom got with it. Came with the combo brush as well as the regular Canadian dusting brush, upholstery nozzle and yellow floor brush. Looks genuine enough to me in light of Doug's important info about the ripple effect of the CanLux Strike. The vacuum is plastered with more than would seem necessary 'Made In U.S.A.' stickers but nothing else to indicate it was sold in Canada

The hose is not the right one, tho is does carry electricity to the PN4 - it is gray with a dark blue chevrons and has been shortened too much by at least 2 feet and leaks way beyond latexing. But at least I have the electric end fittings to graft onto another hose. Seems to me there was a later AP model hose in yellow so when I can locate such a yellow hose a coupler transplant is an option - it has the USA blade type connection. Also keeping my eyes peeled for a yellow crevice tool - I know I've seen one before.

Meantime I can use the good 1205 blue hose.

The motor is clearly more powerful than the 1205 and runs great with no nasty noises on rundown. But it is pulling only 40" with a new bag so I figure the turbines need a good cleaning of impacted fluffbunnies.

 

[aeoliandave]

Dr Crevicetool is correct - the 1201 body is 1/2" longer to accommodate the larger engine. When I have it apart to clean out those turbines the single dent will bump back out easily.

Dave

 

[luxg]

Looks to be in good shape Dave!! Was that an opitional floor brush you could buy? Looks like it would do a good job with the extended bristles. What about the plastic upholstery tool, wonder if that came with the machine? Thanks for sharing.

 

[tristar]

40" is about right if you're measuring suction at the opening to the cleaner.

The way the American Luxes are designed, you simply can't get a perfect seal due to the plastic shroud around the blade slots. I only get about 40" pull on mine too. With the hose connected (which doesn't seal to the canister perfectly either) I get around 65". If I was able to seal up the opening better, I'm sure that reading would be a lot higher.

Mine has been taken apart and cleaned out too. So that's about as good as it's gonna get!

 

[sireluxomatic]

Congrats, Dave. The body looks in good shape...like how the Electrolux logo still looks fresh. I suppose the yellow floor brush would go with the AP 200, wouldn't it?

 

[aeoliandave]

Yes Eric, I guess I'm spoiled by the higher suction of Canadian made Electrolux models. I now see what you mean about the suction loss all the way down and around the electrical connections inside the bag lid. I'll have to test it against the 1205 with the 1205 hose on it to get a differential comparison.

I was expecting with the new improved more powerful Super J motor that the suction would be much higher - silly me.

Bob, it is surprisingly unbanged up, just that one shallow dent on the side that should pop right out. I think the gold color is the same as the Haley's Comet or I can find a better match if necessary to touch up the PN4. Yes, I think that's the AP200 floor brush and I'll be looking for more yellow AP200 tools to compliment it. After all, it is somewhat of a Can-AM hybrid anyway and as Doug points out, was imported and sold at the same time as the 1976-78 AP200 was introduced and then became 'unavailable'. So it is within the realm of belief that yellow & off white tools from both countries were mixed and matched for sale in Canada.

Quite fortuitous for the collector of yellow toned mid 1970s Electroluxs. LOL

Terry, that is a standard Canadian floor brush you guys didn't get 'down south'. It is cast from the same mold shape as the cranberry painted aluminum 80 series or the polished aluminum preceeding 50 series Loaf vacuums. Quite different shape than the USA floor/wall brushes. Beginning with the green 89 it was molded from coloured plastic and continued right through the entire range of the AP series.

Dave

Doug Smith's photo of the 1976-78 AP100 - wouldn't that hose look nice on the SuperJ!

Paging Dr Doug...

 

[collector2]

LOL Dave - That is the same hose that they later used on the Super J Not the easiest to see in this picture but thats the one. Incidentally the parts for the Super J were white (Some yellow with sun exposure) The only gold (yellow) part on them was the metal part on the bottom of the floor brush.

 

[sireluxomatic]

Doug, in the picture of your AP 200, is that a wall brush in front of the shag rug tool? Also, how long did Canadian Lux have the trigger switch for the power nozzle...up to and including the AP 280?

 

[luxg]

Thanks Dave, I am going to have to be on the look out for one of those floor brushes.

 

[petek]

Interesting to learn these were sold in Canada. I had always figured mine which I found in a local thrift shop here had been bought in the USA since or brought over by someone for someone, seeing as I live in a border city. It has the chrome power nozzle and the blue threads in the hose. Unfortunately I don't have any of the attachments.

 

[sireluxomatic]

Pete, that's exactly the one my aunt had...the old memories are flooding back. I must have vacuumed her house with that Super J at least a million times.

 

[collector2]

Hi Bob

Actually the nozzle infront of the shag tool with the AP280 is a shag rake (I have one with the 280 too). Instead of a brush it has small, flexible plastic teeth. You'll also notice both sprayer and sudser as well as the very hard to find yellow tool kit.

The trigger handgrips were used on the 87, 89, 100, 280, SAP, ESpecial, E2000 and the Early 2100's and LE's (No the 200 didnt have one) When production started to move to the US (With free trade) the first thing to go was the trigger handgrips. I was selling machines at the time and I remember the salesmen being very upset about the trigger being done away with and a switch being put on the powerhead instead. It was a step backward as you could no longer just release the trigger if something became caught in the brush.

Doug