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Hmc1981...

You are complaining about people being rude, but your comment is the rudest one I've seen in this thread. You basically are telling someone to leave this site. Not cool.
 
Everyone

Calm down.
Everyone stop this madness. In our lives we truly live with one person, ourselves. There is no reason to worry about anyone or anything this much.
Les
 
I wasn’t complaining. I was stating simple facts. And I never told him to leave the site. I suggested that he list it elsewhere and save himself the time from having to read through all of this bickering and nonsense. It’s the truth. Replies since my first on this thread only help prove what I mentioned.

Stop being overly sensitive. And report me if you have to.
 
My philosophy is to just be nice. It takes a lot more energy to keep up an online argument than to just say "I disagree, but you are entitled to your own opinion. Good day." Of course, there will be the occasional situation in which anger or aggression is a reasonable response, but in most situations, (like the one that has played out above) anger and aggression is an unreasonable reaction and it ruins the fun for everyone else on the forum. We're people however, and we sometimes let our emotions get the best of us. When this occurs, the best thing to do is apologize to the other party. Forgiving feels a lot better than grudges and hard feelings.
 
I was never arguing. Nor did I engage in any name calling. I also never directed my original post towards anybody, it was merely a reply to the OP. It’s others on here who took it and twisted it into something it never was, and that’s the point.

I’m told that my post was the most rude of all. Let’s examine! I’ve broken it up and have my “notes” in parentheses.

It could polish up nice that I believe. (Because it could, this isn’t rude).

This model had its floor height adjustment off of the front axle, so some fairly important equipment is missing. (This is all true, it isn’t rude, it’s just the truth).

And I’m generally optimistic about finding parts, but on a machine of this vintage I wouldn’t count on finding what’s needed anytime soon. And if you do find it, chances are it’ll be part of another whole machine. (Again, all true. I have a friend who has one of these machines, it’s missing the motor. If he bought this one, it’d be complete. But if he doesn’t, and is hoping to find just the axle, he will likely be waiting for a long time. Nothing rude about this).

If money is what you are after, eBay is your greatest chance. (Likely the case, maybe not. Who can say, but it isn’t rude).

If the machine was in good working order, you certainly could get far more than $175. (I should have been more specific. On an auction site he likely could get more than $175. But still not a rude statement).

This site really isn’t the best place to try to sell, just saying. (True if making some better money is what you are after. How is this rude? I sold my ComVac on eBay for over $600. Offers here on VL were in the $60-80 range. Fairly easy to see the better option as a seller).

You could of course modify the machine to have an axle and wheels in the front, but at the same time, if you are trying to sell it, leave it as is and let the buyer do as he or she wishes. (True. Also, indirectly supportive of Huskyvacs idea. Because his idea could work. And, like my friend who has the one sans motor, it’s a good idea to sell it as it is. There may be a buyer who has one that’s incomplete, and this one could bring everything to life. Nothing rude being said).

It has potential. (Because it does and that’s not rude to say).

But... that front axle is quite important to the functionality of the machine. Anything other than what was designed to fit there is incorrect, and to collectors, will likely be a concern, but not to all. (True, some will care about this and some won’t. Nothing rude about that).

At the end of the day, you have people who demand more and people who will settle for less. Both willing to spend their money. (A fact of life. Not good bad right or wrong. It’s just the truth, how is this rude)?

There’s no point in anyone arguing over price or condition or how someone would choose to make the machine work until the right parts come along (if they ever do). (True and how is it rude to imply that arguing over this machine is pointless? It’s exactly what subsequent replies stated).

This site can be so frustrating at times. All the guy wanted to know was an idea of what it might be worth and it’s gone so off topic because people are rude to one another and get their feelings hurt. (It’s true. And it’s difficult to see how anyone would get their feelings hurt over this statement. It isn’t directed towards anyone).

It’s so stupid. (Still is. Not directed at anyone either. Might be seen as a rude comment to make, I could have phrased myself better, but it’s certainly not an attack on anybody).

To the OP: list it on eBay and stop wasting your time with this site. (He’d likely make more on eBay. And it does not tell him to leave vacuumland altogether, it just suggests to use another platform for a sale, because after reading this whole thread, it would become clear to most people that selling on here won’t yield the best results and will involve too much hassle and drama. This statement is negative, but it’s true. May be a little harsh.

Hopefully this can clear some air. As far as being grown adults is concerned, a good first step is to seek clarification if there is any confusion with what somebody has to say. And truthfully, in typing this, I don’t really have any emotion one way or another, I’m just clarifying what I said and reiterating that I was never arguing, was not directing any statement towards anyone, and was simply replying to the OP and not anybody else.

Take it as you wish, I’m quite indifferent towards what people think about me, especially people who I don’t know.
 
Again, it most likely took more energy to type out that wall of text than to just say "I disagree, but you can have your opinion." The wisest and most intelligent man is one who can admit that they were wrong, ever when they were not the one at fault. This is the last time that I will post on this thread. I'm trying to spread some positivity here, and you're just shooting it down. However, you have your opinion, and that's okay. Just don't expect to get too far by constantly arguing.
 
Scott and Fetzer

If we can get back to the S & F above I would add that the original bag is itself a rare find and very positive.
We might also thank bikerray for showing the original literature showing how the axle/wheel/adjuster assembly was removable and the vac is not damaged with it missing.
As for later comments I feel that hmc81 was never arguing, instead trying to add helpful,factual information.I regard his later comments as clarification,not arguing.
 
Not really. It’s copy and paste.

If you cannot address those who you accuse, even if they take the time to respond to the accusations, it only shows your own insecurities and vulnerabilities.

Glad to hear it’s your last response on this thread.

You’ve proven every point I was making.

This is turning out to be a pretty good day.
 
The first iteration of the Scott & Fetzer Sanitation System, from 1928 until 1930, was also sold by Health-Mor as the first version of the Health-Mor Sanitation System.

It was during 1930 that Health-Mor (then known as Sanitation Systems, Inc., the Chicago-area distributor of the Scott & Fetzer model) decided to part ways with Scott & Fetzer and join P. A. Geier (Royal) to make the second version of their Sanitation System, which would last through 1939.

~Ben
 

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