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  1. phaeton

    Royal Model 129 Mid 30's?

    Hi Jeff, I was brain dead, the nameplate is held on with screws not rivets, I will take it off tomorrow. What do you think about the bumper being leather which seems strange? Could it be original to the Royal or did someone make it? I think it might come close to being one my favorites. Thank...
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    Kirby Classic Omega Model 1-CB Cloth Bag

    Hi Rob, I will give them a call. I have been unable to get any good deals here on older Kirbys. I did get some a few years ago but not since. Thank you, Pete
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    Kirby Classic Omega Model 1-CB Cloth Bag

    Hello Ben, You confirmed what I thought, thank you. It just seems odd that someone would replace a bag going backwards instead of forward in model time or use a non Kirby bag. I think going for wand the bag would have been red? It could have been what was in their stock at the time. What ever...
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    Kirby Classic Omega Model 1-CB Cloth Bag

    Hello All and Kirby Experts, Okay in the 70’s and early 80’s I worked for a shop. I do not remember working on anything newer than a Kirby Dual Sanitronic 80. Back then the big thing for all the older Kirbys was putting on the wide wheels for shag carpeting, front bearings and leaking bags. So...
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    Royal Model 129 Mid 30's?

    Hello Frank and Jeff, Wow, so there really was a black Royal bag and it is not me having marbles in my head of a memory that went back to 1953. I don’t remember if the Royal had a headlight or not nor do I remember what the belt cover looked like. I remember the sound of that old Royal and the...
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    Royal Model 129 Mid 30's?

    Hello Royal fans, I have added 8 pictures of my Royal Model 129 and a picture of my 189. I thought the nozzle plate from my 189 would fit the 129, it did not as the 129 has a much thicker front and rear lip. I could flatten the nozzle plate inner edges and it would work as I have 2 of the plates...
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    Royal Junior Hand Held Vacuum Model 81

    Hello Mike, That is a nice looking Royal Royalette. P. A. Geier Co. I guess made a verity of small hand held vacuums. Yours is only the second one I have seen. I have 2 Singer small hand held vacuums a H-7 and an H-10 and they seem to be everywhere like the Royal hand held with the revolving...
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    Historical Significance of the Hoover U4597 RS?

    Hello All, I decided that this should be add to this thread as it is where it belongs. So a few days ago I found a Hoover Model 1170 Dial-A-Matic with Automatic Power Drive. I liked it and because I had worked on the non-power drive models. I also bought a Royal Junior Model 81 because I liked...
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    Hoover senior brush roll

    Hi Jake, I believe the UK Senior and the US Convertible are the same. There are 3 pictures of one I sold on eBay a few months back. Pete
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    Royal Junior Hand Held Vacuum Model 81

    Hello All and Jeff of hygiene903, You know how at times you just can't pass something up. Well that was the case with this little guy. I had never seen one of these before even back in the 70's and 80's when I worked at a shop. There is something familiar about the odd style of paint on it but I...
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    Hoover 1170 dial-a-matic with Automatic Power Drive

    Hello All, I drove about 15 miles to pick this Hoover 1170 up. It was a one owner and do to death had not been used for a number of years. It is complete except for the owner’s pamphlet. It sounds great but both belts are rotten and unusable. I think they are Hoover package of 2 belts Style 49...
  12. phaeton

    Another Hoover 541

    Pardon me for asking but what is a 484 belt? I can’t seem to find a good belt for my 541.
  13. phaeton

    Elector-Hygiene

    Wow Ben, I don't own the handles they were just on some vacuums I have taken pictures of. Good luck all, Pete
  14. phaeton

    Older, Neglected Kirbys

    Hello Wow, I would buy the all Hoovers and the Kirbys as well, but it is about 230 miles to Blythe. I haven't been to Blythe nor past Blythe in 40 plus years. I mean no malice but for me I it is not going to work out. I wish you good luck in selling them and I hope there are some collectors of...
  15. phaeton

    Elector-Hygiene

    Hi Ben, WOW, Ben I have an order going on with Steve Henry of The Henry Company already. He is a really knowledgeable nice person and a patient person also. He found me 1 used bottom plate for the old Royals 129 and 189. They had some black Royal grips and I also bought some none original shake...
  16. phaeton

    Hoover junior 1224 re-spray

    Hi Jake, I forgot to say anything about split rivets you can buy. They would allow you to remove the bumper before painting the metal vacuum. I can’t say that a purist would like that idea. We used then in way back time when I worked at the Vac Shop when I painted a machine and when we put new...
  17. phaeton

    Elector-Hygiene

    Hello Ben and Jeff, I call a few Royal dealers here in Los Angeles and I might be a few years late. I will give it another try during the week with some out of state dealers during the week. I was looking for a Hoover 305 bottom plate and that didn't go so well either. But on the good side, I...
  18. phaeton

    Elector-Hygiene

    Hi Jeff, Thank for the pictures. I had no idea you could use it in a hand held mode nor the smaller bag with a second power cord. I never knew these details and I really appreciate you Posting it. My poor Electro-Hygiene may have to stay with its baby blue trim for now or ever. Finding all the...
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    Elector-Hygiene

    Hello Jeff of hygiene903, I need to let you know I found what you wrote on the history of P.A. Geier Co., Royal, Good Housekeeping and especially the Elector-Hygiene really interesting and I appreciated it. I now have a better understanding appreciation of their straight suction machines thanks...
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    Hoover junior 1224 re-spray

    Good job Jake. I understand the Junior was a popular vacuum in the UK. I repaired a few when I worked at a vacuum shop in way back time in the late 70's. Keep up the good work and enjoy it. Thank you for showing it, Pete
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