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Why no "compact" Kirby? You could ask why Rolls Royce doesn't make a "compact" car: because they just DON'T. Either you want the Rolls Royce of vacuums, or you don't. It's neither good nor bad, it's simply about what you want and what you're willing to pay for. And for Kirby, it's about...

Um ... not entirely accurate ... "They buy one because someone shows up at their door, talks their way inside, and makes them UNHAPPY with their Current vacuum." I know two Kirby salesmen in the New York area and they most certainly do NOT blindly go door-to-door. Believe it or not, people DO...

WELL ... "does anyone really collect or even care for these at all honestly?" Maybe so. But why does anyone collect anything? What's really the driving force behind many of the vac collectors on this board? I'll admit I cringe when I see the youngsters on this board waxing poetic about...

Well ... "Spending $500 on a vacuum for a small apartment without pets is ridiculous. $100 or less is more like it." Depends on your budget. $500 to some people is like $10 to others. I spent $1,600 on a vacuum for my small-ish apartment. Was that ridiculous? I don't think so. But then...

WOW!!! What a stunning machine!

And ... ... the bagless machines get so darn DUSTY! I loved my Fantom Thunder, but geez I don't remember ever having to wipe down my Mom's Hoover Convertible on a regular basis.

Well, not entirely ... "They don't have feelings and won't a know a thing." Not necessarily true. EVERYTHING has a vibrational frequency -- animal, plant, and mineral. Even rocks and grains of sand. The lower frequency ranges may not have sentience, but they do have memory.

Also ... ... keep in mind that even "cyclonic" bagless will require either A) high-maintenance routine cleaning of filters, or B) high-cost filter replacements. Bagged or Bagless. Pay me now or pay me later. But in either case, you will have to pay for replacing your filtration systems with...

To each his/her own ... "Mom is not a fan of used things. She always buys brand new." Personally, I'd much rather have a high quality restored-to-new condition quality *anything* rather than a brand new mediocre something. It's this kind of thinking that has enabled me to enjoy many of the...

Swiffer ... ... is not really CLEANING. It's almost like cleaning, but not quite.

Yes, Jon ... ... totally agree. Particularly the pre-1969 Kirby models with the smaller nozzles. They are no bulkier than any other upright on the market today. But my D80 can out-suction any of them!

I have both now ... I have a brand-new (from last summer) Aerus Guardian Platinum canister which I love (LOOOOOVE being able to get the power nozzle under all my furniture without having to move it), the 8-speed motor for variable dusting, and the ease of switching attachments. BUT .. the...

Contratulations! SWEET machine!

LOVE it! Looks like a Bison that went on a diet. :)

Well ... "everyone always does the videos barefoot, I keep waiting, I know one day someone will do it in high heels!" Maybe these videos are fetish porn for some ... ;)

The problem is ... ... that the Hoover Convertibles and Constellations of old -- built as they used to be built -- would never be able to compete, price-wise, with the cheap plastivacs coming out of China. Adjusted for inflation, a Hoover Convertible from 1968 would retail for over $600. Who...

Kirby ... I'm LOVING my restored Dual Sanitronic 80. BUT it's been retrofitted to take a disposable bag. I'm not so sure I'd be thrilled with the emptor.

As a fan of both ... ... I'm waiting to see some responses. My initial thoughts are that TODAY'S Royals are built in China and aren't built as well as they used to be, while Kirbys are still built in the USA.

Welcome! I'm a newer member too (about a year now). But be careful -- I tend to piss people off. ;)

Again, no ... "The main difference being that TL's don't heat the water and require far more additional chemicals and stain removers to achieve the same result as an EU frontloader does with just detergent." You're alleging that EU frontloaders "achieve" the same results as American...