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Hey tom Does the the symmetry s20 have 100" of w.l. At the hose, or was the salesman exaggerating.

Ralph You hit the nail on the head. As far as improving on the nozzle design, I have no complaints. The radiance picks dirt up just As good as any other cleaner I own.

I totally understand the concept, and the need on the older riccar models. My rad 10's suction at the hose is pretty lousy when it's extended. The symmetry I looked at was a clean air only model. I think Tom said in an earlier thread that they were close to 100" of w.l. Don't misunderstand me...

Yesterday and I was at a local tire shop getting an alignment on my truck. And wouldn't you know it, there was a high end vacuum shop next door. Being a major Tacony fan, I was pleased that they carried simplicity machines. I tried the new symetry s20 up and couldn't believe how powerful it is...

I've been tempted to get one. Its received great reviews on Amazon.

They were Like kirbys and filter queen. They would start out @ $2500 or more, then after the haggling, you could get them for $700

That's a bummer Derek. Well hopefully he mans up and comes threw.

My prima cleans my carpets just as good as any of my kirbys.

Is fair fax still in business

Well 6 years have gone by Andrew. Is the Hoover still alive. If so, does it still clean just as well

Congratulations. It's a great piece. Its the only vacuum in my collection that my wife will use. Although, sometimes I wish she wouldn't. I can hear the canister banging into walls and the power nozzle slamming into baseboards.[this post was last edited: 8/10/2015-17:52]

There were a few floating around here, but they were snatched up quick. Did you ever get your avalir

Sean You can do it. It's real easy. Theirs a few videos on YouTube to walk you threw it

I will Ask him. They sell and repair high end vacuums still.

That's close to my house. That place has been in business forever. A very honest, and fair shop. Next time I'm in there ,I'll have to direct the owner to this thread.

Hey Francis , did you ever get an avalir.

I agree With everybody else. I like the look, but they don't last. By the way Derek, did you ever get your tools for your compact

Also, you're right about the dealers, not being up to date with product. I went into many shops inquiring about the wonder and prima, and nobody knew what I was talking about. I had to show them the thread Tom posted a year ago about the wonder.

I ordered The prima from Tom when they were first released. Like Tom said, it is a suction monster. The most impressive thing about it is the noise, or lack of it. It is the most quiet vac I own, and I have a central vac also. The wow tool, is the best hard floor cleaner I've used. The air...

I love the vernors sign. The hoovers look great too.