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  1. J

    Vorwork vacuum

    Incidentally, you won't find a 2000W Miele in the US - that would require a 20 amp circuit, and most homes aren't wired with 20A breakers for standard outlets.
  2. J

    I need help choosing a new vacuum

    IMHO, the SEB228 performs slightly better than the SEB236 anyway. It's bigger and a bit chunkier, and doesn't have a light, but it actually agitates better and does a better job of dislodging sand and fuzz.
  3. J

    I need help choosing a new vacuum

    First off, bagless is generally terrible. There's a few reasons - one, those cyclones restrict the flow of air a lot, and airflow is what cleans; two, bagless machines are rarely well-sealed, so they leak dust; and three, bagless machines still have filters that clog up, so they are not...
  4. J

    new Dyson big ball joke

    And indeed, that is a Panasonic motor in the Dyson!
  5. J

    new Dyson big ball joke

    *Two* 90 degree turns in the air path, with a single-stage motor, followed by the cyclone setup? Gah. I bet the airflow at the rug sucks. Or rather, doesn't suck nearly enough.
  6. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    Some might, but most of what's getting bounced out of the rug is directly under or next to the brush roll, which is under the suction channel - so most of it either gets sucked up, or falls back into the rug rather than getting kicked into the air. (Though this is part of why the brush roll is...
  7. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    The more airflow the better in general, but if you can shake the dirt to the surface, whatever airflow you have will get more of it - this is why good agitation "covers" poor airflow to a point. (To a point - nothing beats airflow for moving fine dust).
  8. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    The Sharks do have decent agitation, which covers a lot of ills. But then, so do Royals. When I looked, the only metal Royals listed were rated Gold. I'd bet the shake-out bag versions got silver for filtration (which the Sharks do OK on, while the filters last).
  9. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    Yeah, 2000W on 120V is 16.6 amps. 20-amp circuits aren't rare, but in a typical home, most of the circuits aren't wired for 20A, and IIRC there are regulations about appliances not generally being designed to draw more than 13A. (Exceptions abound, of course, but they're typically well-known; I...
  10. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    On the need for high-powered vacuums That's a fair point, and yeah, I think if you're assiduous about it, you can get away with a fair bit less oomph, as long as the vac you're using gets enough of the kind of dirt you actually have. See some of VacLab's tests on Youtube, for example - there...
  11. J

    Huge airflow differences in the recent vacuums

    All else being equal, yes - but all else rarely is equal. That said, Mieles have good power nozzles, so they do clean very well. Are they on par with Kirby or Royal for carpets? Probably not, but then, not much is. (Being a canister, the Miele is extremely versatile, of course.)
  12. J

    Which High Dollar Vacuum?

    FWIW, the Royal 18" models are listed as Gold in the latest listings now too. http://www.carpet-rug.org/certified-vacuums.html
  13. J

    What comes closest today to a 1960 canister Electrolux?

    While it looks nothing like an Electrolux, you might look at the Sebo D4. It's plastic, but high-quality, solidly built plastic. It doesn't feel cheap and plasticky to me at all. The only construction element I'm at all dubious about is the suction channel leading from the motor into the lid -...
  14. J

    Which High Dollar Vacuum?

    The reason why the second vacuum always wins is that no vacuum, however good, gets all the dirt every time. Also, almost every vacuum, however bad, gets at least a little bit. So, unless you managed to get the rug within epsilon of perfect (and you probably didn't - it's hard to do), when you...
  15. J

    Which High Dollar Vacuum?

    Of those two, I'd favor the Kirby. Rainbows are interesting, but the water filtration isn't quite what it's cracked up to be. You can get a Kirby for a lot less than 4k, though. Mieles are very good vacuums. They have a few funky features, but are pretty solid. You might also look at Sebo, also...
  16. J

    Very odd Defender brand Vacuum

    The only thing about it that's a real head-scratcher to me is the integrated hose. Just why? Ack. Other than that, despite the antiquated appearance (which Handy Way and Royal used into the 1990s, at least), it doesn't actually look terrible. But the price is high, I'll grant. Nothing like as...
  17. J

    New Year, New Cleaners

    Oh, if I could find a Royal tank with that odd Manta Rey PN, I'd love that! It'd also be really cool to find one with both the Filter Queen PN and Filter Queen rug nozzle. It's one of those machines with a weird sort of nostalgia for me - my folks never had one, but we had a Filter Queen and a...
  18. J

    Bissell Powerforce Compact Airflow Losses

    It's bad, no doubt about it, but it's not actually as craptacular as I would have expected for the price. It actually did better than the Dyson DC65 on the sand test.
  19. J

    Very odd Defender brand Vacuum

    It almost looks like a crude version of a Sani-Clean (which itself is somewhere between a cruder Royal Tank and a simplified Air-Way). That sounds bad, but the Sani-Clean performed pretty well, and there wasn't much that could go wrong with one. This seems much the same.
  20. J

    New Year, New Cleaners

    I'd hope to find, for a price I'm willing to pay (some of these I see on ebay a lot, but for sky-high prices) Handy Way Sani-Clean Fairfax Eureka Ironsides Silver King with Douglas PN Complete Royal 303 attachment kit Complete Kirby Heritage II attachment kit Royal tank (preferably one of the...
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